[Discussion] Climate Change

This thread is just to post interesting news, thoughts, opinions about climate change.

Amazon rainforest 'close to irreversible tipping point'

Soaring deforestation coupled with the destructive policies of Brazil’s far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, could push the Amazon rainforest dangerously to an irreversible “tipping point” within two years, a prominent economist has said.

After this point the rainforest would stop producing enough rain to sustain itself and start slowly degrading into a drier savannah, releasing billions of tonnes of carbon into the atmosphere, which would exacerbate global heating and disrupt weather across South America.

The warning came in a policy brief published this week by Monica de Bolle, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington DC.

The report sparked controversy among climate scientists. Some believe the tipping point is still 15 to 20 years away, while others say the warning accurately reflects the danger that Bolsonaro and global heating pose to the Amazon’s survival.

“It’s a stock, so like any stock you run it down, run it down – then suddenly you don’t have any more of it,” said de Bolle, whose brief also recommended solutions to the current crisis.

Speaking of Brazil, apparently there's a mystery oil spill going on?

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Worst round of Sim Earth EVAR

What do the colors denote? Specifically the purple?

LeapingGnome wrote:

What do the colors denote? Specifically the purple?

Marijuana plantation on fire.

"Purple Haze, in my mind..."

LeapingGnome wrote:

What do the colors denote? Specifically the purple?

I think it has something to do with the age of the fires. Found the image in a Reddit comment for this depressing story:

Koalas ‘Functionally Extinct’ After Australia Bushfires Destroy 80% Of Their Habitat

LeapingGnome wrote:

What do the colors denote? Specifically the purple?

Yellow is rare, purple is epic, orange is legendary, and only noobs care about the grey ones.

Our air quality has been on par with Beijing/New Delhi for the last couple of weeks as everything surrounding Brisbane (and some bush well within city limits) burns. It's a bit surreal... Drive an hour west and every speck of green has leached out of the landscape. Thousands and thousands of hectares of bare, bone-white scrub and tinder-dry eucalyptus trees waiting for lightning or even just the wrong combination of heat, wind and friction and we are still at least a month away from any traditionally recognised bushfire season.

The best part is that our current government is moving away from full-on climate change denial to a 'maybe it's a thing, but it's too late to change any of our behaviours now' stance. It's making it really hard for me to not wish for the voting rights of anyone over the age of 55 to be immediately and permanently rescinded.

Chairman_Mao wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

What do the colors denote? Specifically the purple?

I think it has something to do with the age of the fires. Found the image in a Reddit comment for this depressing story:

Koalas ‘Functionally Extinct’ After Australia Bushfires Destroy 80% Of Their Habitat

Yeah, it's age of fires. Here's a link to the site the pic came from.

Bushfires have razed almost 23,000 square miles in Australia so far this season and we're technically not even halfway through. Whole towns have been destroyed while their inhabitants huddled under blood red skies on New Year's Eve, and our country's executive leadership see no problem taking international holidays (including the State Emergency Minister of New South Wales, one of the most badly affected states) while regional Australia is quite literally obliterated. This is the way we open 2020.

That is too much to ask, sadly.

I am here to tell you that, unlike you, my generation will not give up without a fight.

I am pretty sure I heard this line when I was a teen, and yet here we are.

fangblackbone wrote:

That is too much to ask, sadly.

Every billionaire ever: "I'd be happier with the dollar."

They do. They just don't give a sh*t about anyone else's children.

Fact is climate change won't kill the rich first. Unless we collectively make that happen.

bnpederson wrote:

They do. They just don't give a sh*t about anyone else's children.

Fact is climate change won't kill the rich first. Unless we collectively make that happen.

Is it though? It could happen in a landslide.

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The right keeps attacking Greta Thunberg’s identity, not her ideas

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin on Thursday became the latest member of the Trump administration to mock Greta Thunberg, the 17-year-old activist who has spent her adolescence calling adults to account for their failure to act on climate change.

Asked by a reporter at the World Economic Forum in Davos whether the climate policies Thunberg advocates would hinder US economic growth, Mnuchin answered, “Is she the chief economist, or who is she? I’m confused.”

“It’s a joke,” he went on. “After she goes and studies economics in college she can come back and explain that to us.”

It was one in a long line of belittling comments that politicians and pundits on the right have made about Thunberg in recent months. President Trump has led the charge, sarcastically tweeting in September that Thunberg seemed like “a very happy young girl looking forward to a bright and wonderful future.” In December, after Thunberg was named Time magazine’s Person of the Year for 2019, Trump called the choice “ridiculous” and said the activist should “go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend.”

If you can't debate the message, you can always attack the messenger.

LeapingGnome wrote:

If you can't debate the message, you can always attack the messenger.

The GOP Motto

Antarctica just hit 65 degrees, its warmest temperature ever recorded

WaPo wrote:

Just days after the Earth saw its warmest January on record, Antarctica has broken its warmest temperature ever recorded. A reading of 65 degrees was taken Thursday at Esperanza Base along Antarctica’s Trinity Peninsula, making it the ordinarily frigid continent’s highest measured temperature in history.

The Argentine research base is on the northern tip of the Antarctic Peninsula. Randy Cerveny, who tracks extremes for the World Meteorological Organization, called Thursday’s reading a “likely record,” although the mark will still have to be officially reviewed and certified.

The balmy reading beats out the previous record of 63.5 degrees, which occurred March 24, 2015.

The Antarctic Peninsula, on which Thursday’s anomaly was recorded, is one of the fastest-warming regions in the world. In just the past 50 years, temperatures have surged a staggering 5 degrees in response to Earth’s swiftly warming climate. Around 87 percent of glaciers along the peninsula’s west coast have retreated in that time, the majority doing so at an accelerated pace since 2008.

Cripes, that is like near perfect SF Bay Area weather...
I bet there is still a nasty wind chill.

d4m0 wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

If you can't debate the message, you can always attack the messenger.

The GOP Motto

Both sides do it.

kazar wrote:
d4m0 wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

If you can't debate the message, you can always attack the messenger.

The GOP Motto

Both sides do it.

I think you forgot the "/s"

kazar wrote:
d4m0 wrote:
LeapingGnome wrote:

If you can't debate the message, you can always attack the messenger.

The GOP Motto

Both sides do it.

Isn’t that the GOP motto?

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January 2020 Decadal Forecast Summary wrote:

Averaged over the five-year period 2020-2024, forecast patterns suggest enhanced warming over land, and at high northern latitudes. There is some indication of continued cool conditions in the Southern Ocean. Current relatively cool conditions in the north Atlantic sub-polar gyre are predicted to warm, with potentially important climate impacts over Europe, America and Africa.

During the five-year period 2020-2024, global average temperature is expected to remain high and is very likely to be between 1.06°C and 1.62°C above the pre-industrial period from 1850–1900.This compares with an anomaly of +1.16±0.1°C observed in 2016, currently the warmest year on record. In the absence of a major volcanic eruption a new record is likely in the coming five years, and there is a small (~10%) chance of one year temporarily exceeding 1.5°C. These high global temperatures are consistent with continued high levels of greenhouse gases.

Chumpy_McChump wrote:

Isn’t that the GOP motto?

You're thinking of "Mwa Ha Ha!"

"It's not cheating if you get away with it!"

fangblackbone wrote:

"It's not cheating if you get away with it we do it. They would have done it anyway!"

FTFY

(Not included; “we didn’t do it anyway”, “we might have done it but it’s actually ok”, “we did it, but everybody does it”, and “why are you all still so focused on this?”)