[Discussion] Medical Quackery

This is a follow up to the thread "Medical quackery in the US upsets me very, very much". The aim of this current thread is to take up the discussion on medical quackery (widening the scope since the US isn't the only country concerned), discuss news item pertaining to it and the potential responses to address it.
The definition of medical quackery is not up for debate and includes, among others, homeopathy, vaccine skepticism, naturopathy, crystal healing, psychic healing.

OH. AND ONE MORE THING.

Seth wrote:

Reap and I have had our disagreements but he’s never been anything less than honorable.

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HA! Gotta love the Odo.

I wanted to say I meant no disrespect, and I'm sorry if I gave any offense.

My viewpoint on meds and psych treatments is a bit skewed, both from working in cancer prognostic testing where "this treatments adds two years to a patients survival" is a fantastic outcome, and being an ADD kid where there is so much garbage advice out there "This treatment is proven to work for half the people who try it" represents something that is worth giving a shot; but ADD is not PTSD and I get that. Not even in the same zipcode of impairment.

If I hear one more person say "have you tried just paying more attention" though...

thrawn82 wrote:

If I hear one more person say "have you tried just paying more attention" though...

Huh... wha? Sorry, I drifted away as you were talking...

Hehe

(That kind of line always makes me think of XMEN2 - "Have you tried 'not being a mutant'?")

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:
thrawn82 wrote:

If I hear one more person say "have you tried just paying more attention" though...

Huh... wha? Sorry, I drifted away as you were talking...

Hehe

(That kind of line always makes me think of XMEN2 - "Have you tried 'not being a mutant'?")

Well it does have a pretty strong genetic component so... yea that's basically what they are saying.

Yup, such a helpful suggestion... ugh.

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:
thrawn82 wrote:

If I hear one more person say "have you tried just paying more attention" though...

Huh... wha? Sorry, I drifted away as you were talking...

Hehe

(That kind of line always makes me think of XMEN2 - "Have you tried 'not being a mutant'?")

Speaking from experience, it’s hard to be an adult with ADD, depression, and mild aspergers symptoms. I can only imagine that it must be almost as hard to be my wife or friend.

Rawk wrote:

Speaking from experience, it’s hard to be an adult with ADD, depression, and mild aspergers symptoms.

If you work in the Tech field, it's like a job requirement. Many computer related jobs benefit from the ability to deeply focus, mesh together disparate facts, notice tiny details others miss (that's OCD, though) and transfer information accurately and quickly without social foo-fah stuck in it. The depression (or, alternately, anxiety) sucks, but then, many of your co-workers will have it to.

Robear wrote:
Rawk wrote:

Speaking from experience, it’s hard to be an adult with ADD, depression, and mild aspergers symptoms.

If you work in the Tech field, it's like a job requirement. Many computer related jobs benefit from the ability to deeply focus, mesh together disparate facts, notice tiny details others miss (that's OCD, though) and transfer information accurately and quickly without social foo-fah stuck in it. The depression (or, alternately, anxiety) sucks, but then, many of your co-workers will have it to.

I will admit, the hyper-focus that comes with ADD has been an asset when it comes to reading FISH provided I can do it in an environment without too many distractions, which typically isn't a problem in a darkened scope room

For me, it's been a career enhancer. But then, I came up when it was expected that you'd learn computer stuff on your own, mostly. So I didn't have to worry about issues with studying, grades, etc. Just learn and do and teach others.

Yeah. I made a poor choice of career when I was young. It doesn't suit my personality. I've decided to hang in there until I retire in early 2021. I'll be 50, and trying to start a 2nd career. My age and lack of experience might make it hard for me to seem relevant in any tech field.

I'm in the process of friending up as many Blizzard employees as possible. I would do just about anything for that company.

This Friday the entire company is going to see Star Wars together. Blizz has reserved several theaters to accommodate all of their employees. That's the type of kindness that I've never seen from the meat grinder corporation that I work for.

Its off topic, but Im curious what you want your 2nd career to be.

polypusher wrote:

Its off topic, but Im curious what you want your 2nd career to be.

Blue sky scenario: Game designer. But that's a bit unrealistic. I am currently trying to learn Unity. I have some game ideas kicking around in my head. It would feel like a great personal accomplishment if I could make them come to life. If I can accomplish that it might look good on a resume.

I really enjoy working closely with others, so to be some sort of an administrator or manager would be nice. Hopefully for a company that I can respect.

-- And apologies for getting so far off topic. I didn't mean to derail the thread.

Robear wrote:
Rawk wrote:

Speaking from experience, it’s hard to be an adult with ADD, depression, and mild aspergers symptoms.

If you work in the Tech field, it's like a job requirement. Many computer related jobs benefit from the ability to deeply focus, mesh together disparate facts, notice tiny details others miss (that's OCD, though) and transfer information accurately and quickly without social foo-fah stuck in it. The depression (or, alternately, anxiety) sucks, but then, many of your co-workers will have it to.

In the early days of Silicon Valley, some of these symptoms were explicitly sought after.

ah yes the realm of questionable stimulants which combined with desk or chair hours tends to lead to gamers having an unfortunately high rate of wonderful things like DVT.

"Godmode - cos you're too much of a wuss for meth".

GODMODE - Gives you really expensive pee.

FDA plans crackdown on quackery

Im a little surprised a department in this administration intends to do anything to harm a business, but that's the suggestion by the article. A quote from the FDA head struck me as odd.

In many cases, people may be placing their trust and money in therapies that may bring little to no benefit in combating serious ailments, or worse—that may cause significant and even irreparable harm because the products are poorly manufactured, or contain active ingredients that aren’t adequately tested or disclosed to patients…

Its a lot of equivocation about a set of products that is proven over and over to have no effect when made 'properly' (see James Randi homeopathic sleeping pill overdose stunts) and potentially deadly effects when made improperly

The "equivocation" is lawyers.

Suppliment Company: "you probably can prove our products aren't effective, but since you've said so out right, we are definitely going to bleed you for 9 figures making you do it in court"

I've got some 'homeopathic' pills for all them lawyers out there. They may be safe.

Raw water.

Gremlin wrote:

Raw water.

Well yeah but if it's not grossly expensive it won't work.

Gremlin wrote:

Raw water.

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*Googles Raw Water*

I just....i don't understand. *shakes head bemused and walks away*

Raw water? RAW WATER?

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

Maybe educated people should start calling it "natural sewage."

It's "natural" and therefore better. You know, like polio.

Someone on twitter posted a "cooking with your mouth" video. I will not repost or link to it. I couldn't tell if it was real. I. Could. Not. Tell.

Gremlin wrote:

Raw water.

The Man is already trying to bring us all down.

Rezzy wrote:

Someone on twitter posted a "cooking with your mouth" video. I will not repost or link to it. I couldn't tell if it was real. I. Could. Not. Tell.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't. But just the making of that video was a crime against all that is good and true. *sob*