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Stele wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:

So, the question is now... what are the Democrats going to do about it? We've just spent a week talking about Moore and how Weiner was kicked out basically ASAP.

Now we have a sitting Senator accused of some (different, but still) gross sexist behavior.

So, what are the Dems going to do?

Meanwihle, Mitch "If these allegations are true..." McConnell is up for immediate action this time because it's a D instead of an R. -_-;;

I don't think this equivocates with attempted rape and multiple instances of sexual assault.

And he actually admits and apologizes. If it turns out to be a pattern we can revisit, but it's not even in the more Moore ballpark yet.

I'd be the first to say the level of sh*t between the two is vastly different... doesn't change my feeling that this is a moment where Dems either have to take the high road they say Moore and the Repubs should be taking... or they have to accept that they'll look like hypocrites.

But we are merely scratching the surface here. Not on Franken but I am betting almost all males in politics have some sort of foot in the #MeToo movement. Not all but politics is mucky and we still have not addressed the internal sexual harassment allegations federally and state governments. Some old Rep male in MN government told a woman to stop looking so hot and he'll stop starring. On phone so cannot find source.

The really ugly thing about these kinds of allegations coming out after so long is that we've been fine with ignoring sh*tty behavior for so long that what was mostly an eye-roll before is now recognized as sexual assault/harassment. The picture of Franken with his hands over that woman's chest is pretty clearly done as a joke - he is obviously hamming it up for the camera - but it's still not cool. It wasn't cool back then, but it wasn't considered an actionable problem at the time; now we seriously talk about wanting him to resign over it. To me, the kissing with tongue is a lot worse behavior, even though it might not be quite as sexist.

I hate that one 'side' wants to hold people accountable for being a jerk, and one side doesn't care. It's not right, and it's not fair, and trying to just compare one person's bad behavior as a justification to another person's bad behavior is pointless. How can we have a body of government with looser restrictions than a mall? Is it supposed to be better because there are fewer teenagers in Senate?

Last thing I hope to say here today. Anyway we can bring Trump to the senate to testify under oath he never assaulted the women he is accused of? Nearly got Bill.

Hobear wrote:

Last thing I hope to say here today. Anyway we can bring Trump to the senate to testify under oath he never assaulted the women he is accused of? Nearly got Bill.

That would be awesome, but it would never work. He would either say "I never touched them", someone would show photographic evidence of it happening, and Republicans would give the guy from Supernatural shrug and laugh it off or he would say "I grabbed the f*ck out of those pussies!" and his approval ratings would go up. At this point, I'd rather just not know which one happens.

Keystone pipeline leak.

You know, this really shouldn't be political.

oilypenguin wrote:

Keystone pipeline leak.

You know, this really shouldn't be political.

Our "pro-life" government at it's best!

As a Minnesotan who is generally happy with our senators, I’m very disappointed with Franken. Unfortunately I think he has to step down. Sexual assault has to be a career ender regardless of the situation and his political career should be over.

I guess if there’s a silver lining, we may clear the glut of priveleged white men out of Washington DC if these reports continue. If we had a Congress made up of a majority of women, the ethical issues would go away and our country would be in a far better place. Even if it only occurs in the Democratic Party.

Docjoe wrote:

If we had a Congress made up of a majority of women, the ethical issues would go away and our country would be in a far better place. Even if it only occurs in the Democratic Party.

As someone originally from San Francisco, California and represented by Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, I think you are vastly underestimating the corrupting influence of power.

Some really great analysis here:

Vox: Al Franken should be investigated, and he should be held accountable

2) I have been reflecting of late on why the Harvey Weinstein revelations kicked off this revolution, and one theory I have is that Weinstein was a powerful Democratic donor, and that was actually important. After Trump, Democrats were primed to take allegations of sexual abuse seriously. And since Weinstein was a Democrat, Republicans didn’t respond by rallying around him or trying to change the subject. Thus, the Weinstein affair broke the normal forces of polarization and made this something more than red versus blue.
4) Until we know more about the extent of Franken’s actions, it’s hard to say what the results should be. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that an investigation is warranted, and needed, and he’s right. Franken, to his credit, has agreed. And it’s a good precedent to set that these kinds of allegations lead to official ethics investigations.
5) But it’s worth remembering that the president of the United States has more than a dozen well-documented, on-the-record allegations of sexual assault against him. The fact that those allegations are known doesn’t make them less serious, and the fact that he won the Electoral College despite them does not absolve him. It is a good thing for the country and our future that we are taking sexual assault so seriously. But it is a very, very bad thing if the one exception is the most powerful, prominent abuser in the world.

Basically, we aren't solving anything until we lose the political slant to every accused politician. Even here, one of the first people that called for Franken to step down noted that the Minnesota governor is a Democrat, so it would be okay, as if that should factor in.

Al Franken deserves to have his name dragged through the mud. He deserves to be investigated throughly to see if this is a pattern. We do need to know if he has used his political power to abuse women. But based on this one event and his response, and her response to that, I think removing him from office if overkill. But I can live with however this plays out.

Docjoe wrote:

As a Minnesotan who is generally happy with our senators, I’m very disappointed with Franken. Unfortunately I think he has to step down. Sexual assault has to be a career ender regardless of the situation and his political career should be over.

I agree. While this kind of sexual assault is--less egregious? I don't want to trivialize it. It's still bad and an abuse of power. I'm sure all those in on the "joke" at the time thought it was funny.

This is apparently the year of cleaning house.

A comedian taking a tasteless photograph isn't the same as an attorney accosting minors. Not cool of Franken, but not at all the same.

He wasn't banned from malls.

It's only one person who apparently has forgiven him after his apology (not confirmed but I saw it on twitter again, NOT CONFIRMED).

And I still would like him to step down.

If he wants to seek redemption and forgiveness and come back, that's great. It's up to the voting public of MN. But my opinion? He should step down now.

We should, all of us, expect better of our elected officials. Apparently liberals need to set the standard that we expect by asking a Giant of the Senate (in stores now) to step down, so be it.

We need to be better. Actions have consequences. Character matters. Let's live up to our ideals for a change.

oilypenguin wrote:

It's only one person who apparently has forgiven him after his apology (not confirmed but I saw it on twitter again, NOT CONFIRMED).

Confirmed.

The Hill wrote:

The woman who accused Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) of sexual misconduct said Thursday she accepts his apology.

"The apology, sure I accept it, yes. People make mistakes and of course he knew he made a mistake," Leeann Tweeden said. "So yes I do accept that apology. There's no reason why I shouldn't accept his apology."

She said it's up to Congress to decide if it wants to have an ethics investigation into Franken's behavior, adding that she isn’t calling for Franken to step down, unless more women come forward.

“People make mistakes. I’m not calling for him to step down. That’s not my place to say that,” Tweeden said.

Thanks, OG.

A man caught on tape saying "grab them by the p*ssy," who 16 women have accused of sexual assault and/or harassment, and who ran away from reporters today when asked about Moore just had to tweet this tonight.

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He replied to that one too, about how Al was lecturing anyone who would listen.

So oblivious. Nothing ever applies to him. Moron.

OG_slinger wrote:

A man caught on tape saying "grab them by the p*ssy," who 16 women have accused of sexual assault and/or harassment, and who ran away from reporters today when asked about Moore just had to tweet this tonight.

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I just managed to get through the dollop podcast 2-part bio on D. I knew he was bad over the years but didn't give a crap about learning about him because he's obviously a garbage human. It's so much worse than you could ever imagine. It's just a facepalm city.

OG_slinger wrote:

A man caught on tape saying "grab them by the p*ssy," who 16 women have accused of sexual assault and/or harassment, and who ran away from reporters today when asked about Moore just had to tweet this tonight.

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So reading between the lines here. The DT has taken a series of photos where he has gone horrible places...f*ck you Trump.

And that's not even how you spell Frankenstein.

Office. Of. The. Press. Secretary.... of the f*cking White House...........

So, unrelated, all ex-presidents are always called Mr. President, right? And they get permanent Secret Service protection? If this piece of garbage gets impeached, does that no longer apply? Please tell me that would no longer apply... and please let this p.o.s. get impeached, if so.

All I want for Christmas is an im-peach-ment.

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

Office. Of. The. Press. Secretary.... of the f*cking White House...........

It's an alternate Twitter account that takes Trump's tweets and puts them into proper press release format. It just hammers home just how unpresidential just about everything he says is.

OG_slinger wrote:
Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

Office. Of. The. Press. Secretary.... of the f*cking White House...........

It's an alternate Twitter account that takes Trump's tweets and puts them into proper press release format. It just hammers home just how unpresidential just about everything he says is.

Thank you... I thought I'd lost it o.O

oilypenguin wrote:

Keystone pipeline leak.

You know, this really shouldn't be political.

The I-Told-You-So-Dance is not very satisfying when your water taste like kerosene.

Bill O'neil is running for Governor of Ohio

Now that the dogs of war are calling for the head of Senator Al Franken I believe it is time to speak up on behalf of all heterosexual males. As a candidate for Governor let me save my opponents some research time. In the last fifty years I was sexually intimate with approximately 50 very attractive females. It ranged from a gorgeous blonde who was my first true love and we made passionate love in the hayloft of her parents barn and ended with a drop dead gorgeous red head from Cleveland.
Now can we get back to discussing legalizing marijuana and opening the state hospital network to combat the opioid crisis. I am sooooo disappointed by this national feeding frenzy about sexual indiscretions decades ago.
Peace.

https://www.facebook.com/WilliamMONe...

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NathanialG wrote:

Bill O'neil is running for Governor of Ohio

Now that the dogs of war are calling for the head of Senator Al Franken I believe it is time to speak up on behalf of all heterosexual males. As a candidate for Governor let me save my opponents some research time. In the last fifty years I was sexually intimate with approximately 50 very attractive females. It ranged from a gorgeous blonde who was my first true love and we made passionate love in the hayloft of her parents barn and ended with a drop dead gorgeous red head from Cleveland.
Now can we get back to discussing legalizing marijuana and opening the state hospital network to combat the opioid crisis. I am sooooo disappointed by this national feeding frenzy about sexual indiscretions decades ago.
Peace.

https://www.facebook.com/WilliamMONe...

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Is he really a justice of the Ohio Supreme Court? Wow.

Hopefully he's not the only Democratic candidate running because that would put him out of the race for me, even if it meant going 3rd party.

Is there a term for that? Serving your opponent a lob?

Jonman wrote:

Is there a term for that? Serving your opponent a lob?

Easy Mode?