Star Wars Misc. Catch-All

Since my PC died at the beginning of the holiday weekend, I dusted off my PS4 to replay Fallen Order and it’s amazing some of the table setting it did for the rest of the franchise.

The Acolyte:

Usually you'd expect this kind of film noir twist towards the end of the story, not the beginning, unless there's an even bigger twist.

I’m excited to see where the story goes.

sometimes stories don't need a twist. it is almost becoming cliche that every show is having one. but that being said, the first two episodes are way better then the trailer led me to believe.

The first two episodes of The Acolyte got me pretty intrigued. Finally live action Star Wars without the baggage that comes from being tied to the movies. There is a reason why KOTOR is the best Star Wars material apart from the original trilogy.

New planets? Check!
New characters? Check!
No Skywalkers? Check!
Cool fights? Check!
Cool droid that kids I want? Check

Brainsmith wrote:

Finally live action Star Wars without the baggage that comes from being tied to the movies.

Is it too doom and gloom of me to point out that that's what we all said about the Mandalorian halfway through Season 1?

hbi2k wrote:
Brainsmith wrote:

Finally live action Star Wars without the baggage that comes from being tied to the movies.

Is it too doom and gloom of me to point out that that's what we all said about the Mandalorian halfway through Season 1?

As that is set between the trilogies, I’d argue there are a lot of ties to the movies… or am I misunderstanding your statement?

I'm saying that in the first half or so of the first season, it seemed to be largely standalone adventures and seemed refreshing for that reason, and before long it was mired in continuity porn.

Yeah. Star Wars in particular lends itself to monster/puzzle-of-the-week storytelling. But people think it needs to have meaning so it's more GoT and not enough Trek/X-Files.

WizKid wrote:

Cool droid that kids I want? Check

Pip is literally an actual Mr. Tricorder:

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hbi2k wrote:

I'm saying that in the first half or so of the first season, it seemed to be largely standalone adventures and seemed refreshing for that reason, and before long it was mired in continuity porn.

Ah! I didn’t really follow the discussion surrounding the Mandalorian. I enjoyed it for what it was, but I still have complicated feelings about the scenes with Luke.

I thought the Acolyte was OK. I like it in theory, and I like all the actors - it's great to see Manny Jacinto and Charlie Barnett again - but I'm only mostly along for the ride right now.

I'm not sure what I really want from a show like this - it's inevitably going to lead into a bit of Sith bollocks so it ties into phantom menace in some fanservicey way, but I think I'd prefer just some smaller stories in this time period and not something that Threatens The Whole Galaxy. I want Star Wars Dragon Age 2, I think.

Hmmm, I don’t know. The first two episodes didn’t really land for me. The fight scenes were cool but the dialog and the pacing just felt off. It felt very much like the Obi-Wan series to me which I also did not enjoy. Some of the scenes, such as at the apothecary’s, felt really contemporary and out of place. It also felt really low budget and small.

Our new rule is that we'll give it one more and then decide to keep to keep watching or not. We just quit Dark Matter on Apple TV+ for being incredibly mediocre.

Given how some amazing sci-fi shows have been released in the past few years, I just read this thread now and am sad that Star Wars has so few successes. Maybe I'll look into Acolyte at some point, but am really just waiting on Andor to return.

Keithustus wrote:

Given how some amazing sci-fi shows have been released in the past few years, I just read this thread now and am sad that Star Wars has so few successes. Maybe I'll look into Acolyte at some point, but am really just waiting on Andor to return.

He did...in Rogue One...for a bit.

I really enjoyed the two eps.

DudleySmith wrote:

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I'm not sure what I really want from a show like this - it's inevitably going to lead into a bit of Sith bollocks so it ties into phantom menace in some fanservicey way, but I think I'd prefer just some smaller stories in this time period and not something that Threatens The Whole Galaxy...

When I saw the red lightsaber, my thought went straight to "a bit of Sith bollocks" as well. Also, I couldn't help wondering whether 100 years pre-The Skywalker Saga didn't also put us into young-ish Yoda territory...

But your post did help me clarify my own thoughts. I think I don't want anything pre-Skywalker Saga, because it's impossible for me not to view that story through the prism of later events that I'm familiar with. The Empire, Vader, and the Rebellion will always loom large over it. What I want is the Galaxy post-Empire, post-New Order. What happens to a Galaxy when it's no longer defined by conflict? What happens to a Galaxy when its inhabitants are no longer aligned with three factions: the Empire; the Rebellions, and; keeping their heads down and trying to get on with life.

Actually, perhaps that last thing is what I want next: stories about people who are trying to live their lives actively avoiding becoming involved in the wider conflict.

Wont' happen though...

I thought Yoda was like 500 years old when he passed in RotJ?

Yoda's been established as a member of the Jedi Council in the earlier High Republic works.

fangblackbone wrote:

I thought Yoda was like 500 years old when he passed in RotJ?

When 900 years old you reach, look as good, you will not.

detroit20 wrote:

...But your post did help me clarify my own thoughts. I think I don't want anything pre-Skywalker Saga, because it's impossible for me not to view that story through the prism of later events that I'm familiar with. ...

In contrast, I think I've soured on the Skywalker saga, and want some stuff not connected to that, but also not connected to the Filoniverse, which I haven't engaged with very much. I'm still mourning the loss of the EU segments I really liked (on the pyre of far inferior Disney stuff).

detroit20 wrote:

Actually, perhaps that last thing is what I want next: stories about people who are trying to live their lives actively avoiding becoming involved in the wider conflict.

So, you are looking for a Star Wars sitcom or a crime drama? CSI: Corellia.

I'd totally watch that. To adapt a phrase from the Greatest Gen podcast, I love "Star Wars as a place."

zinckiwi wrote:

I'd totally watch that. To adapt a phrase from the Greatest Gen podcast, I love "Star Wars as a place."

+1. George Lucas built an amazing universe. The sights, sounds, and John Williams' music are iconic. The distressed ships, vehicles, and structures look real and lived-in. We just need good writers to craft new stories in that universe.

I mean they've already done CSI everywhere else.

I so want Law and Order: Droid Unit, staring Din and Bo.

Actually, I don't think I want a procedural.

I think I want a noirish detective series exploring the dark criminal underbelly of a Coruscant in the corrupt and chaotic period following the fall of Empire (or the New Order, if that's easier). A reimagining of the Philip Marlowe character and stories, basically. Preferably set in the grimy universe created in A New Hope...

This Marlowe will have been a former investigator for the equivalent of the Corsuscant District Attorney's office during the Empire/New Order, but will have been fired for insubordination (like Chandler's Marlowe).

Yep, I’d watch that too. Or a TIE Fighter, Wing Commander style squadron drama. Or a mockumentary style bake-off spoof, the Great Wookie Cookie Show. Or a political thriller as the post-movies new government sets itself up. Or…

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