Merrick Garland's Supreme Court Nomination

If he's willing to do it when Obama is a Lame Duck, what exactly is his excuse for not doing so right now? I thought Obama was already a Lame Duck to them (definition failure).

I will be incredibly disappointed if Obama doesn't withdraw the nomination the election's over if Hillary gets it. If I wanted to be less partisan, I'd say that he should withdraw it as soon as election day dawns, but frankly, there's a 50% chance of that being terrible.

The only way that could happen on Obama's watch is if Garland were to withdraw. No way would Obama pull him out. And if he *was* confirmed, that's a win for Obama and a centrist SC justice moving forward, which is good for everyone.

Then Clinton swings in with the wrecking ball.

Yeah I'm fine with Garland making it in. THEN, we get RBG retiring only if Obama gets in

Obama would be an interesting Justice. I don't think you guys would like his take on national security issues, though...

Robear wrote:

The only way that could happen on Obama's watch is if Garland were to withdraw. No way would Obama pull him out. And if he *was* confirmed, that's a win for Obama and a centrist SC justice moving forward, which is good for everyone.

You are probably right but only because Obama actually seems to give a crap about the long term interests of the country.

Well, also for appearances. Any pulling of Garland's nomination before the election would be taken as giving in to Republicans. And after the election, it would be taken as betrayal and an indication that Obama "was not serious about his nominee, but rather was just playing politics". The Right would eat him alive.

Robear wrote:

And after the election, it would be taken as betrayal and an indication that Obama "was not serious about his nominee, but rather was just playing politics". The Right would eat him alive.

I get the feeling Obama isn't going to be too concerned with what Republicans think about him after the election.

Sure, conservative media could say that Obama was simply playing politics, but he could respond with "I gave Republicans months and months to do the right thing with an exceptionally moderate nominee and they refused. So now they get to deal with the consequences of their inaction, which is President Clinton appointing multiple, exceptionally liberal Supreme Court justices. Have fun with that, bitches."

Nor do I think that Hillary is going to be concerned about Obama burning any bridges with the Republicans because she already understands that there won't be any honeymoon period with her presidency.

Republicans will immediately be against any and all policies she wants to pursue regardless of their merits while moving forward with Congressional investigation after Congressional investigation. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the first thing Republicans trotted out for the 2nd session of the 114th Congress was impeachment charges against Hillary.

That's one reason that Clinton has an advantage over Obama: Obama came into office expecting that he'd get at least a little bit of flexibility and compromise from the Republicans in Congress, and spent some amount of his early political capital trying to reach agreements. It wasn't until later that he realized that no, they really were going to lean fully into playing the obstruction game, and for him to start looking for ways to get things done in spite of them.

Hillary would get to go into her first term knowing exactly what to expect, and can start acting accordingly from the day she's sworn in. Whether or not she manages to accomplish anything with that knowledge remains to be seen, but at least she won't waste time expecting compromises that are never going to come.

Chaz wrote:

That's one reason that Clinton has an advantage over Obama: Obama came into office expecting that he'd get at least a little bit of flexibility and compromise from the Republicans in Congress, and spent some amount of his early political capital trying to reach agreements. It wasn't until later that he realized that no, they really were going to lean fully into playing the obstruction game, and for him to start looking for ways to get things done in spite of them.

Hillary would get to go into her first term knowing exactly what to expect, and can start acting accordingly from the day she's sworn in. Whether or not she manages to accomplish anything with that knowledge remains to be seen, but at least she won't waste time expecting compromises that are never going to come.

Or my favorite, work on compromises with folks who act like they want compromise, then drop it at the final moment trying to sink it/score points with their base.