NFL 2016: Offseason: Pre-Draft / St. Louis Trolling

pizzaddict wrote:

Once I saw Dan Snyder got involved I basically decided the Niners have no shot. What Dan wants, Dan will overpay to get.

And he has. $15 mil a year.

Not only that but 50 MILLION GUARANTEED. That is insane!

Albert Haynesworth deal part 2.

I'm interested to see how he does when he doesn't have a great d-line and LB crew rushing the QB.

pizzaddict wrote:

I'm interested to see how he does when he doesn't have a great d-line and LB crew rushing the QB.

It's like Alvin Harper got young and decided to play on the other side of the ball. That's crazy money.

But this means ODB-Norman battles twice a year now, so that'll be fun to watch.

Gumbie wrote:

Albert Haynesworth deal part 2.

I'm inclined to agree. I was happy with the idea of the Niners or even the Jags signing him to a front-loaded deal. But $50 mil guaranteed on a 5-year $75 mil deal? I understand why he never made any other team visits. That offer was not going to happen anywhere else.

Now they are saying it is more like 35 mil guaranteed.

It's the great debate, really. Who is Mr. Irrelevant, the last pick in the draft or whatever big name FA Washington signs.

To be fair, this is a smart move for Washington even though he's likely never gonna live up to the contract. They need him.

I want to hate on Washington more, but I expect that this move will do that for me already. It does fill a need though.

garion333 wrote:

To be fair, this is a smart move for Washington even though he's likely never gonna live up to the contract. They need him.

I want to hate on Washington more, but I expect that this move will do that for me already. It does fill a need though.

Their signings always fill a need. But they also introduce additional dysfunction, because Snyder has absolutely no sense of how negative the effect of privileging his latest toys over the team, including the coach, is. When the team loses, his new star players tend to just cash checks and stop being engaged.

What makes it bad is that it's on a charge card. The deal averages $15 mil a year, but he's only on $5 mil of salary in 2016. The $15 mil signing bonus amortizes an additional $3 mil on the salary cap this year, bringing his cap hit to $8 mil. So there's a $7 mil deficit there, inflating future cap years.

The deal has $36.5 mil fully guaranteed, with the rest of the $50 mil figure coming from injury-only guarantees that become fully guaranteed if he's still on the roster on a certain deadline.

Browns and Broncos reportedly calling other teams looking to trade up from picks 31/32.

Rat Boy wrote:

Sam Bradford wants out of Philly. Gee, I wonder why.

It seems absolutely likely he could be easily traded with that $18 million contract he has. I see no difficulties whatsoever with the concept of another team warmly embracing Sam Bradford.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Sam Bradford wants out of Philly. Gee, I wonder why.

It seems absolutely likely he could be easily traded with that $18 million contract he has. I see no difficulties whatsoever with the concept of another team warmly embracing Sam Bradford.

The $11 mil signing bonus would stay in Philadelphia, though.

Bradford would cost a new team $7 mil in 2016 and $17 mil (if kept on the roster) in 2017.

Appeals court has reinstated Brady's 4 game suspension.

Is it time for me to be commissioner yet?

Gumbie wrote:

Appeals court has reinstated Brady's 4 game suspension.

Zzzzz. Who cares? Let's get back to our regularly scheduled program:

Browns sign Saalim Hakim, a WR who has received exactly 0 balls in his career.

Spoiler:

He's a Special Teamer.

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I know the Josh Norman talk last week quickly turned into "well, he isn't as good as he thinks he is" but I didn't realize just how far off the mark Norman's play is:

Despite playing 19 games last year, Norman only had 253 qualifying plays. Darrelle Revis had 375 when he played 19 games in 2014. Revis and Richard Sherman have consistently been the best performers in these analyses over the years. Their success rates have hovered around 81 percent for the most part. Any rate over 80 percent is very impressive, while quality starters primarily stay above 75 percent.

Norman finished with a 69.96 percent success rate in 2015. As a one-on-one defender, Norman is below average. He shouldn't be asked to play man coverage in space on a regular basis. When he does play man coverage, he is typically at his best bailing away from the line of scrimmage at the snap. This is because he can't jam receivers in press at the line of scrimmage.

He comes out much better looking on Zone coverage and especially on sniffing out Screens.

But, still, damn.

Look at those GIFs of Jaguar receivers exposing a cornerback! Boy it's been a long time since that was possible.

Report: Mike Tirico to leave ESPN for NBC.

Rat Boy wrote:

Report: Mike Tirico to leave ESPN for NBC.

Undoubtedly to be replaced by somebody not as good, meaning Gruden will get even Grudenier.

garion333 wrote:

I know the Josh Norman talk last week quickly turned into "well, he isn't as good as he thinks he is" but I didn't realize just how far off the mark Norman's play is:

Despite playing 19 games last year, Norman only had 253 qualifying plays. Darrelle Revis had 375 when he played 19 games in 2014. Revis and Richard Sherman have consistently been the best performers in these analyses over the years. Their success rates have hovered around 81 percent for the most part. Any rate over 80 percent is very impressive, while quality starters primarily stay above 75 percent.

Norman finished with a 69.96 percent success rate in 2015. As a one-on-one defender, Norman is below average. He shouldn't be asked to play man coverage in space on a regular basis. When he does play man coverage, he is typically at his best bailing away from the line of scrimmage at the snap. This is because he can't jam receivers in press at the line of scrimmage.

He comes out much better looking on Zone coverage and especially on sniffing out Screens.

But, still, damn.

Context is important here. Norman was the best corner the Panthers had had since, well, forever. And he made some spectacular plays last year. That end zone INT against the Saints, for instance, was a thing of beauty.

That said, I thought the FO piece did a good job of pointing out his shortcomings. I think the story was thorough and fair based on what I've seen out of Norman over the past three seasons.

I might quibble with the number a little bit. Teams that threw short and in front of Norman usually got a completion and 4-6-8 yards. (The Panthers are big on keeping things in front of them on defense and making opponents string together good plays.) The ODB drop and the alley-oop to Julio Jones aside, Norman didn't usually get beat in the intermediate or long routes.

Sorry he's gone. Not sorry not to be in cap hell (again).

I guess we are not talking about JFF getting indicted because a) it's (unfortunately) not a surprise and b) he's no longer in the league? Talk about a sad situation. I feel for the people in his life that he has hurt.

Yeah, he's not even a football player anymore. The dude thinks moving in with Josh Gordon is getting his life in order.

At this point, I wouldn't trust him to deliver pizzas.

Abu5217 wrote:

I guess we are not talking about JFF getting indicted because a) it's (unfortunately) not a surprise and b) he's no longer in the league? Talk about a sad situation. I feel for the people in his life that he has hurt.

If anything, I hope it throws a wet blanket on any more "Johnny's like your college buddy who couldn't stop partying" think pieces.

I hope he gets his life together, but I don't know if being a celebrity (even the celebrity that comes with being a backup QB or an Arena League QB) would be good for Manzeil.

I do feel some empathy for him but at any time the guy can go home and get some help. His family is filthy filthy rich.

JaMarcus Russell is still trying to come back to the NFL. Sports Illustrated even has an upcoming film about him.

Why?