NFL 2015: Week 13

*Legion* wrote:
Gumbie wrote:

Marcus Mariota is 1st PLAYER (vets included) in NFL history with 250+ pass yds, 100+ rush yds & 3 TD passes in a game.

Also

QB Marcus Mariota now has 4 games with 3+ TD passes, tied with Peyton Manning for most ever by NFL rookie.

Looks like Mariota did a good job (didn't get to see the game), but I saw Bortles threw 5 TDs and 0 INTs, so I better hear some grudging respect!

Yeah Bortles was pretty damn good and has been all year. The one glaring difference I noticed between the two teams is Jacksonville actually has receivers (the Allens). A lot of those bombs Bortles threw weren't dead on passes to the his receiver, it was more just heaving it up and his receiver would make a play over the corner. Must be nice not to have to just throw it directly in their hands (and even that doesn't work sometimes) That OLB Telvin Smith is freakin nasty too, I dread the Titans having to play him for years to come.

If you haven't seen the highlights yet Legion...

karmajay wrote:

Amazing how the future looks when you have a competent QB though.

I've been really impressed Winston looks like the Bucks may finally have a QB to build around. I'll be the first to say I thought he was gonna be a bust after that week 1 game but I was definitely wrong.

*Legion* wrote:

Blaine Gabbert:

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I thought this was more impressive.

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Gumbie wrote:

Yeah Bortles was pretty damn good and has been all year. The one glaring difference I noticed between the two teams is Jacksonville actually has receivers (the Allens). A lot of those bombs Bortles threw weren't dead on passes to the his receiver, it was more just heaving it up and his receiver would make a play over the corner. Must be nice not to have to just throw it directly in their hands (and even that doesn't work sometimes) That OLB Telvin Smith is freakin nasty too, I dread the Titans having to play him for years to come.

Yeah, it's nice to have the Allens take away the pain of the what-could've-been thoughts about Justin Blackmon. Tennessee definitely needs to find some better WRs to pair with Mariota.

I'm really kind of shocked at the quality of the top drafted QBs of the past two years, with one obvious exception.

Bortles is a Bruce Arians style quarterback to the core. He leads the NFL in "deep passing" yardage per PFF's metrics. Big arm, big body, big play, like Roethlisberger and Luck.

Bridgewater is the polar opposite. He's the precision passer. #1 in PFF's adjusted accuracy percentage. Near the bottom of the league in deep passing. Unquestionably a Norv Turner QB.

Carr is that lightning-quick release gunslinger. Lots of zipping intermediate passes. Second most passing yards this season among this group, behind Bortles.

Winston looked so bad at first, right up through that week 4 game where he threw 4 INTs vs Carolina. He's only thrown 4 INTs total in the 8 games since. He's wrapping his head around the Dirk Koetter system, and Koetter is doing amazing work with him. (Which is why I wanted him in SF, dammit!)

Mariota has the worst support around him of these 5 (victory over Bortles' Jags this week notwithstanding), but even more impressive than doing so well with so little is how well he's transitioned to an NFL-style pocket passer. He's made the Alex Smith comparisons at draft time laughable - now that we see him attempting NFL throws week in and out, we see the arm talent. He's got a quick release like Carr's, and while he might not have as much throwing power as Carr, he's got the best running talent of the group.

Gabbert has had a few solid games, which are pretty much the first few solid games of his career. Suffice to say, I'm not sold yet; lots of QBs have had short stretches of competence.

Koetter is doing amazing work with Winston. I'm getting a very "young Roethlesberger" feel from Winston at this point, both on and off the field (unfortunately). There was a play on the 2nd TD drive yesterday where the Bucs came up to the line, Winston recognized the defense, and he called an audible and shifted the protection around. Took him seconds to do it, and was really impressive. Winston's been running basically a full pro offense since he took his first snap, and things haven't really been dumbed down for him at all. Presuming he doesn't do anything incredibly stupid, he's the QB I'd take out of those five at this point for his on-field talent. Presuming he doesn't do anything stupid.

I'm a bit baffled by how atrocious secondary play has been this year; for the offensive line, I can understand it to an extent, as the rise of spread offenses mean you get your offensive linemen learning terrible habits in high school and college. It seems like this year everybody is having 4-5 TD games on a regular basis, and not sure why.

garion333 wrote:

I need to do affinity missions. I'm kinda down on the story at this point, so time to dig into the characters.

So many teams are bad this season, I guess I can see how affinity missions would make the NFL more watchable.

bighoppa wrote:
garion333 wrote:

I need to do affinity missions. I'm kinda down on the story at this point, so time to dig into the characters.

So many teams are bad this season, I guess I can see how affinity missions would make the NFL more watchable.

I have great affinity for Blaine Gabbert!

You're bad at this, garion333. You should probably stop.

That Freeman pic, it looks like he got back into shape.

LeapingGnome wrote:

That Freeman pic, it looks like he got back into shape.

He's just playing possum so he can get back into the league and then eat Blaine Gabbert.

Speaking of washed up fat quarterbacks...

At least he's embracing it.

"Bacon fondue fries"

That's just poutine that doesn't try hard enough.

The sad part of that play... it was the longest rushing play that SF had all year long (so said the TV during the broadcast).

MoonDragon wrote:

The sad part of that play... it was the longest rushing play that SF had all year long (so said the TV during the broadcast).

I saw something on FO that Gabbert had 125 yards on 31 passes prior to the end-of-game winner, which is a pretty Gabbert-esque Y/A. I remain firmly in the "He's still Blaine Gabbert" camp.

It's a lot cheesier than poutine, no gravy to dilute the cheese. I'd still rather have poutine though.

This is a wretched wretched game. Who wants it least?

tboon wrote:

This is a wretched wretched game. Who wants it least?

Matt Cassel vs Kirk Cousins in 2015...in primetime.

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Some things never change Desean Jackson

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Gabbert has had a few solid games, which are pretty much the first few solid games of his career. Suffice to say, I'm not sold yet; lots of QBs have had short stretches of competence.

The point isn't that Gabbert is good, because he's still not a long-term starter - he's simply elevated himself to the kind of emergency spot-starter backup QB you actually want.

The point is that Blaine Gabbert is better than Josh Freeman.

Who is this "Josh Freeman" that you keep referring to? I looked through all of the NFL rosters and can't find him.

Abu5217 wrote:

Who is this "Josh Freeman" that you keep referring to? I looked through all of the NFL rosters and can't find him. ;)

It's actually shocking, in this day and age of even lowly high schools having full stats and results on the web, just how hard it is to find any real stats or game data on the FXFL and its teams. The "stats" on the league's homepage haven't been updated since each team's 1st or 2nd game, and the standings don't reflect the final games the teams played either. The Bolts team Facebook page (with some confirmation from a player's Instagram) is the only was I was able to confirm the Bolts' final game even occurred. It's a bit of an online archaeology project.

What I was able to determine is that Freeman was not the outright starter for the Brooklyn Bolts, but was WoodStrock-ing it in a platoon with former college backup journeyman* Jake Heaps.

*: seriously, Heaps apparently played at 3 different schools: BYU, Kansas, and Miami, losing the starting job at all 3 stops. But finally found a QB teammate who could not take his job outright in Josh Freeman.

Josh Freeman is just playing possum, and will one day return. This is a clearly consciously designed scheme to become the subject of a made for TV movie about a truly great comeback. One day, he will return, eat Blaine Gabbert, and usher in an age of blood and darkness.

The NFC East the division nobody wants to win.

TheGameguru wrote:

The NFC East the division nobody wants to win.

The AFC South would like to wish you good day, sir!

*Legion* wrote:

It's actually shocking, in this day and age of even lowly high schools having full stats and results on the web, just how hard it is to find any real stats or game data on the FXFL and its teams. ...

Actually it's not. Here at the Daily Bugle, a semi-pro team will burst onto the scene and demand all sorts of coverage. We're short-staffed, so we make the same offer we do with every other high school, youth and community team and event: Email us your stuff (scores, stats, etc.), and we'll put it in the paper.

We never hear from them again. And there's never any online trail of scores, schedules or anything else.

Wait, that's not true. The next time we hear from the team is when the players start calling and asking us to write a story about how they haven't been paid in weeks.

That's as predictable as a Johnny Football party video showing up on YouTube. (I have Dec. 15 in the pool.)

Enix wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

It's actually shocking, in this day and age of even lowly high schools having full stats and results on the web, just how hard it is to find any real stats or game data on the FXFL and its teams. ...

Actually it's not. Here at the Daily Bugle, a semi-pro team will burst onto the scene and demand all sorts of coverage. We're short-staffed, so we make the same offer we do with every other high school, youth and community team and event: Email us your stuff (scores, stats, etc.), and we'll put it in the paper.

We never hear from them again. And there's never any online trail of scores, schedules or anything else.

Wait, that's not true. The next time we hear from the team is when the players start calling and asking us to write a story about how they haven't been paid in weeks.

That's as predictable as a Johnny Football party video showing up on YouTube. (I have Dec. 15 in the pool.)

Reasons Josh Freeman's stats haven't appeared on a website:
-Number fields on website are formatted for only six digits, and Freeman's yardage exceeded that in two games.
-Knowing how great Freeman is playing would cause all other past, present, and future NFL players such deep existential despair at their inability to ever achieve anything near his greatness that posting his stats would cause mass suicides on an unimaginable level, and keeping the truth quiet is the only way to save lives.
-Freeman's gotten so fat his density has caused him to collapse on himself, forming a black hole on the field, and not even data transmitted at lightspeed can escape his gravity well.

All perfectly plausible explanations.

Enix wrote:

Here at the Daily Bugle

PARKER! Get back to work!

Enix wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

It's actually shocking, in this day and age of even lowly high schools having full stats and results on the web, just how hard it is to find any real stats or game data on the FXFL and its teams. ...

Actually it's not. Here at the Daily Bugle, a semi-pro team will burst onto the scene and demand all sorts of coverage. We're short-staffed, so we make the same offer we do with every other high school, youth and community team and event: Email us your stuff (scores, stats, etc.), and we'll put it in the paper.

We never hear from them again. And there's never any online trail of scores, schedules or anything else.

Wait, that's not true. The next time we hear from the team is when the players start calling and asking us to write a story about how they haven't been paid in weeks.

That's as predictable as a Johnny Football party video showing up on YouTube. (I have Dec. 15 in the pool.)

Interesting read. I'm not surprised at the lack of newspaper coverage, but I am surpised at the lack of hiring some bottom dollar "web developer" for 2 hours to post the latest stats and results on their own website.

But then again, I guess that speaks to your point on lack of follow through, plus quick descent into liquidity trouble.

Seriously though, how hard is it to edit some goddamn HTML? Nobody has a 13 year old handy?

God forbid... But if Legion is ever brutally murdered at least everyone here knows to contact the police and tell them it was Josh Freeman.