Star Trek: Discovery Catch-All [Spoilers]

Gremlin wrote:

I thought it looked pretty good, though I don't know yet if they're skewing towards nu-Trek action-instead-of-philosophy.

Trailer looked good but I have the same concern. Hopefully this is more Next Generation than reboot, couldn't tell from this.

hbi2k wrote:

I mean, it's either that or take a realistic look at their position in the marketplace and act accordingly, but who wants to do that?

I know this is in relation to the CBS All Access thing, but I also think it applies to why the hell are they doing ANOTHER prequel?

Sure the trailer looks good.

But cutting off the nose to spite the face here. So many alien races and stories, and even possible cameos that get left out by doing a prequel.

Still don't understand why they can't do post-Voyager. Wouldn't it be nice to see Admiral Picard, Captain Riker, Admiral Janeway, etc... down the road somewhere for one off episodes? Why throw all those possibilities away before you even start?

No Borg, no Romulans, no section 31... can't do any aliens that TOS, TNG, DS9 or Voyager "discovered" because you're before them.

It's just so damn limiting. And there's a reason Enterprise was your poorest rated, shortest running series, and took the franchise off TV for the first time in 18 years, and kept it off for over a decade. So yeah, try that again... and expect what?

Ugh.

Stele wrote:
hbi2k wrote:

I mean, it's either that or take a realistic look at their position in the marketplace and act accordingly, but who wants to do that?

I know this is in relation to the CBS All Access thing, but I also think it applies to why the hell are they doing ANOTHER prequel?

Sure the trailer looks good.

But cutting off the nose to spite the face here. So many alien races and stories, and even possible cameos that get left out by doing a prequel.

Still don't understand why they can't do post-Voyager. Wouldn't it be nice to see Admiral Picard, Captain Riker, Admiral Janeway, etc... down the road somewhere for one off episodes? Why throw all those possibilities away before you even start?

No Borg, no Romulans, no section 31... can't do any aliens that TOS, TNG, DS9 or Voyager "discovered" because you're before them.

It's just so damn limiting. And there's a reason Enterprise was your poorest rated, shortest running series, and took the franchise off TV for the first time in 18 years, and kept it off for over a decade. So yeah, try that again... and expect what?

Ugh.

All true unless this is based off the jjverse. Cause who knows how all that went down in the jjverse. Not sure if it is but it looked like it to me. I agree with you that a prequel is a bad idea. Lot of other stuff I'd rather watch so it won't be enough to get me to sub.

Well that trailer looked...horrible.

Where is this in the timeline? After enterprise but before Jame's Kirk?

Great, the video (a trailer for gods sake) is not available to be watched in my location.

But yes im crossing my fingers for a recent post religious/ post scarcity socitey filled with optism explores the galaxay and discovers the same demons that have plagued us for centuries exist in the great beyond as well.

Trailer not available in here. I don't get it. why would they limit availability even if it's not launching right away everywhere. What do they have to lose by getting more exposure!?

It's not just CBS doing it of course, but it's been a good while since this last happened.

Had to look it up on YouTube thanks to region locking, but that looks pretty okay. Trek isn't really conducive to trailers.

I had to go to YouTube as well - it absolutely would not load on the CBS site. I presume that's due to my multiple flash-blocking, tracking-blocking, and ad-blocking browser plugins, but if they can't provide the content without those things active, I don't really care all that much.

Also, region locking promotional content is extremely stupid.

Also also, I'm not impressed by the trailer.

krev82 wrote:

Where is this in the timeline? After enterprise but before Jame's Kirk?

Yeah. The trailer says "10 years before Kirk" at one point.

It seems like it has promise. We will see if they can pull off the magic again. I feel like Enterprise and Voyager really failed to be as strong as The Next Generation and DS9.

As trailers go, it was definitely enough to grab my interest. I hope both CBS and audiences will be patient with it. TNG and DS9, like many scifi shows, took time to find their footing and I imagine this will too.

I like it. I acknowledge that it looks nothing like any other Trek series, and that's okay. It doesn't diminish my love for everything else Star Trek.

Unrelated to Discovery, a Vimeo user posted this great edit of The Motion Picture set to Daft Punk's Tron: Legacy soundtrack. It's a long edit, 22 minutes, but well worth watching: https://vimeo.com/217336882

(watch it before it gets DMCA'd by either Daft Punk, Disney, or whatever entity owns the rights to The Motion Picutre)

ubrakto wrote:

As trailers go, it was definitely enough to grab my interest. I hope both CBS and audiences will be patient with it. TNG and DS9, like many scifi shows, took time to find their footing and I imagine this will too.

It took at least a full season for TNG and DS9 to be good (although they had a couple good episodes most of the first seasons were crap) I wonder if the new show will be given that must time.

T-Prime wrote:

I like it. I acknowledge that it looks nothing like any other Trek series, and that's okay. It doesn't diminish my love for everything else Star Trek.

Unrelated to Discovery, a Vimeo user posted this great edit of The Motion Picture set to Daft Punk's Tron: Legacy soundtrack. It's a long edit, 22 minutes, but well worth watching: https://vimeo.com/217336882

(watch it before it gets DMCA'd by either Daft Punk, Disney, or whatever entity owns the rights to The Motion Picutre)

That was incredible.

I can't put my finger on it, but I didn't like it. The Klingons, the CGI, "Spock." It felt like a trailer for a fan film.

Also, prequel.

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I think it looked better off the bridge. When they were on the bridge everything felt cheap green screen because it probably was.

Meh. Another prequel story? Why?

AcidCat wrote:

Meh. Another prequel story? Why?

The TLDR version of my rant last night.

Stele wrote:
AcidCat wrote:

Meh. Another prequel story? Why?

The TLDR version of my rant last night. ;)

Cripes, everything feels like a prequel nowadays! Just this week we got Game of Thrones news, and now The Dark Crystal too.

I don't know if I'm in the minority on this, but I generally can't stand prequels. I just don't get why everyone insists on going backwards. Is it because they feel the original had a definitive end?

Star Trek certainly doesn't, and for a show about the future I'd very much like to see the future of the universe that we already know.

PaladinTom wrote:

for a show about the future I'd very much like to see the future of the universe that we already know.

Well put.

I think the reason is there is just so much canon out there it would be hard unless it was the far future. A prequel about a new ship and people before all that time travel shiz started, etc.

Not excited. They show nothing of the ship which has always been a major character in any Star Trek show.

karmajay wrote:

I think the reason is there is just so much canon out there it would be hard unless it was the far future. A prequel about a new ship and people before all that time travel shiz started, etc.

What canon? Some books?

Star Wars tossed out 30+ years of expanded stuff, no problem.

Post Voyager, the only on screen canon we have is Spock and the destruction of Romulus. Everything else is free for all and tons more interesting than more pre Kirk trash.

The Star Trek TV shows and movies have never treated the books as canon anyway.

Stele wrote:
karmajay wrote:

I think the reason is there is just so much canon out there it would be hard unless it was the far future. A prequel about a new ship and people before all that time travel shiz started, etc.

What canon? Some books?

Star Wars tossed out 30+ years of expanded stuff, no problem.

Post Voyager, the only on screen canon we have is Spock and the destruction of Romulus. Everything else is free for all and tons more interesting than more pre Kirk trash.

I don't care if canon gets throws out a bunch but I'm not a super Star Trek fan...

Found this from Twitter. The poster said it was from 1978:

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I really liked the trailer. I also got a heavy Mass Effect vibe from it, from the music to some of the visual styling for whatever that's worth. Not really sure what people don't like about it. It's already light years ahead of the JJ Abrams movies.

I do hope they leave room for meandering Star Trek weirdness, where nobody gets shot with a phaser and there's a giant alien tea party or something like that.

My people were biologically determined for one purpose alone: to sense the coming of death.

Huh??