Star Trek: Discovery Catch-All [Spoilers]

Rat Boy wrote:

It's a shame PIC's completely overshadowing a very compelling and very Star Trek final arc to this season of DSC.

Wait what?

Yeah, it's true. It's pretty okay I guess. It's hard to admit it though.

There's still too much focus on 'feelings', so I still have that to Female Doggo and moan about.

Veloxi wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

It's a shame PIC's completely overshadowing a very compelling and very Star Trek final arc to this season of DSC.

Wait what?

I should clarify this while saying I've never seen this level of attention and care taken to the notion of contacting another species in ~56 years of Star Trek that naturally was going to get screwed up by the real antagonist all along.

Yeah the entirety of last week's episode ("Species Ten-C") all I could think was "How is Tarka going to screw this one up?"

That said, the first contact team figuring out how to communicate with Ten-C I think is most in-line to how humanity would actually attempt communication with an alien species. Establishing some kind of baseline understanding through math and working outward from there... certainly more realistic than viewscreens automagically being able to interact with each other despite never encountering one another before. Anyway the first contact communication storyline felt, to me, like something out of TNG, in a very good way.

Some highs and lows this season but great last season ep.

People who don't follow American election politics that closely are going to be confused by the cameo at the end.

Rat Boy wrote:

People who don't follow American election politics that closely are going to be confused by the cameo at the end.

I knew she looked familiar but I did not recognize her until this post. That will certainly irritate some people lol. Most likely those people aren't watching Disco anyway though

I didn't either, but I checked Mem Alpha right away because I felt like I knew her from somewhere.

Discovery never fails to disappoint. I feel like I am only watching at this point because I love Star Trek and don't want to miss anything.

I have no idea what's going on this season. I remember them rescuing some people from a prison. The show just doesn't grab me anymore.

I quit the show at the end of last season. Sounds like it was the right choice.

(I forgot to unfollow this thread though...)

It's still a fun romp and I'll follow Saru anywhere (entirely based on Doug Jones), but yeah this season was a bit...weird...

I was fine with this season.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

I have no idea what's going on this season. I remember them rescuing some people from a prison. The show just doesn't grab me anymore.

They were trying to evacuate a colony because it was in the path of the Dark Matter Anomoly. For some reason, every infraction on that colony resulted in life imprisonment to set an example. The prisoners were being rescued because a life sentence isn't supposed to be a death sentence. There was also something about one of the prisoner's wanting to return someone's cultural touchstone, but that was likely there to add more to Zora's character for that episode.

I liked this season, a lot because the solution to the problem of the D.M.A., after all of the pyrotechnics they throw in, is very Star Trek, both in timing and execution.

For some reason, every infraction on that colony resulted in life imprisonment to set an example.

It was not every infraction, it was a sampling of people meant to be examples of what being arrested entails as warnings to the rest of the population.

I feel like this season finally found its legs, figured out how to properly pace things, and what stories to tell and how to tell them.

There were still a few notable asterisks to me (I **love** the non-binary representation with Adira and Grey, however I'm not sure how Adira really fits in with Discovery. Also, it was mentioned a few times that Bryce was part of some project with Kovich, but there was no payoff in the end.) but I found this season to be quite solid. I would definitely re-watch this season, which I didn't fully feel with past seasons.

I will say I do hope they can scale back the existential threat next season. No reason they couldn't spend a couple of episodes around communicating with the 10-c without blowing up the galaxy lol

T-Prime wrote:

I feel like this season finally found its legs, figured out how to properly pace things, and what stories to tell and how to tell them.

There were still a few notable asterisks to me (I **love** the non-binary representation with Adira and Grey, however I'm not sure how Adira really fits in with Discovery. Also, it was mentioned a few times that Bryce was part of some project with Kovich, but there was no payoff in the end.) but I found this season to be quite solid. I would definitely re-watch this season, which I didn't fully feel with past seasons.

I might be wrong, but every officer on Discovery except Adira came with it from the distant past. Their experience, and Tal's experience, can have a big impact. As for Kovich and Bryce, it might be paid off in season 5.

It was an ok-ish season. It would have been a 'middle of the road' two-parter for TNG.

I still wish they would tone down how emotional everyone is.

I feel like you could cut about 4 episodes from the season and lose absolutely nothing.

Which they'll be doing starting next season. Apparently the episode count (which is longer than the seasons of the other shows) was mandated by Netflix.

I enjoyed all the stuff involved in communications with species 10-C.

The way the 10C communicated was interesting. Scifi tends to make all life to be way too similar (two hands, two feet, vocal communication, etc...). Star Trek explains it in TNG, but it was nice to see something we don't normally see (maybe the Farpoint station aliens, or the crystalline entity).

The problem I had with the 10C communication scenes was it was a lot of lazy handwavy writing. I felt the episode of TNG, Damok, dealt with much of the same difficulties that they had with the 10C, but the story was so much more satisfying.

kazar wrote:

The problem I had with the 10C communication scenes was it was a lot of lazy handwavy writing. I felt the episode of TNG, Damok, dealt with much of the same difficulties that they had with the 10C, but the story was so much more satisfying.

I blame this primarily on the show needing to be three episodes longer than necessary, so they gotta stretch sh*t like this out. Darmok was one, very tightly-written episode. This sh*t with the 10C was spread way too thin over multiple eps.

Shame, I felt like they were starting to hit their stride.

Season 5's also premiering roughly two years after season 4. That's a long gap.

If nothing else, this show definitely gets the spectacle right in its final batch of episodes.

I love it.

It's far from perfect, but I very much appreciate what they do with this show.

a.) Let Wilson cook.

b.) It's a real shame that Season 5's the only experience we're going to get with Captain Commander Rayner. He's a good addition to the show.

c.) Are we actually finally going to see what the Tzenkethi look like after many very different iterations in licensed works?