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CBS Television Studios announced today it will launch a totally new Star Trek television series in January 2017. The new series will blast off with a special preview broadcast on the CBS Television Network. The premiere episode and all subsequent first-run episodes will then be available exclusively in the United States on CBS All Access, the Network’s digital subscription video on demand and live streaming service.

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I am psyched for sure! Here is hoping it is going to be a great series and in the true spirit of the former series.

And an artikel on Vox as well.

I honestly didn't know CBS had a subscription based streaming service.

Yep, just saw this myself. Can't wait to see what they do!

I am super hopeful and also slightly worried, Alex Kutzman, writer of the 2 movies, is at the helm and he really butchered Trek throwing that Star Trek feel out the window and killing established canon. It was like he never watched the shows at all. (Kronos is only a few hours away from Earth, beaming at warp is totally a thing, and a ton more)

Interesting. I'm starting with zero hope for it since, as the Vox article points out:

[...] Kurtzman's contribution to the franchise as a screenwriter has been precisely to water down what's uniquely Trek about Trek in favor of a more broadly appealing sci-fi romp. Star Trek's return to television should be a triumphant moment for the franchise's fans, but it might be the nail in the coffin

And as a non-American, I'll have zero access to it anyway. Thanks, region-locked streaming services.

Reposting from the 'Beyond' thread...

Interesting. I was just thinking over the weekend that I could never see paying for CBS All Access. Even with this news, I'm still not quite convinced I would. If this show takes place in the reboot timeline or if it takes place before Voyager's end I'm probably out.

I'm starting to get overwhelmed with all of these monthly payment services. It'll soon be more than what I pay for cable. I guess I'll have to start flipping on/off subs like I do with Spotfiy if I want to follow the content. Also, if production of this show lives and dies simply by the number of subs to CBS All Access I think that will be pretty sh*tty.

On the one hand, woo! New Star Trek! Regardless of how "watered down" the movie is, they'll have to avoid big boom-boom stuff because it's a TV series with a TV series' budget.

But then, it's not REALLY a TV series, is it? It's a web series. And I'm not going to pay CBS $8 a month for a limited selection of their content, plus a Star Trek web series.

RooksGambit wrote:

I am super hopeful and also slightly worried, Alex Kutzman, writer of the 2 movies, is at the helm and he really butchered Trek throwing that Star Trek feel out the window and killing established canon. It was like he never watched the shows at all. (Kronos is only a few hours away from Earth, beaming at warp is totally a thing, and a ton more)

Here's the thing, though: Damon Lindelof was around, too. Anything that guy touches turns to sh*t. As long as he's not on the writing team, anything is possible.

Also, there was J.J. Abrams. With those kinds of creative forces influencing everything, we can't be certain he was at any kind of fault for the garbage that was the new movies.

In other words, I'm cautiously hopeful.

bnpederson wrote:

On the one hand, woo! New Star Trek! Regardless of how "watered down" the movie is, they'll have to avoid big boom-boom stuff because it's a TV series with a TV series' budget.

But then, it's not REALLY a TV series, is it? It's a web series. And I'm not going to pay CBS $8 a month for a limited selection of their content, plus a Star Trek web series.

I don't consider Netflix series to be a "Web series". I feel like you're painting with a broad stroke here.

I expect we'll see other ways to watch it once the streaming viewership turns out to be practically nonexistent.

Gravey wrote:

Interesting. I'm starting with zero hope for it since, as the Vox article points out:

[...] Kurtzman's contribution to the franchise as a screenwriter has been precisely to water down what's uniquely Trek about Trek in favor of a more broadly appealing sci-fi romp. Star Trek's return to television should be a triumphant moment for the franchise's fans, but it might be the nail in the coffin

And as a non-American, I'll have zero access to it anyway. Thanks, region-locked streaming services.

Other articles mention:

which will also be syndicated overseas

WAIT. This is a thing that is happening?

I don't usually make demands of the agent I work with, because I'm not signed, but I'm going push now. I want to audition, dammit.

PaladinTom wrote:

Interesting. I was just thinking over the weekend that I could never see paying for CBS All Access.

I didn't even know it existed until this morning.

garion333 wrote:

Other articles mention:

which will also be syndicated overseas

Ah, good to know. I'll pay attention then!

Since we're all ST fans here, can I use this opportunity to quickly re-ask a question that got no serious reponses in the questions thread? Star Trek fan movies, any worth watching? Watched some trailers, production values (of some) look impressive, wondering if acting/writing match?

garion333 wrote:
bnpederson wrote:

On the one hand, woo! New Star Trek! Regardless of how "watered down" the movie is, they'll have to avoid big boom-boom stuff because it's a TV series with a TV series' budget.

But then, it's not REALLY a TV series, is it? It's a web series. And I'm not going to pay CBS $8 a month for a limited selection of their content, plus a Star Trek web series.

I don't consider Netflix series to be a "Web series". I feel like you're painting with a broad stroke here.

I expect we'll see other ways to watch it once the streaming viewership turns out to be practically nonexistent

I don't trust a network to put the amount of money into a streaming-only series that Netflix will. Netflix is putting a lot of talent, money and effort into their original shows because that's all they have, streaming is their whole business model at this point. I think CBS is, first and foremost, a broadcast network and I suspect that they'll cut corners for something that's primarily to promote their streaming service.

And just from a content point of view, I don't think CBS has enough to drive me towards their streaming service even if it DOES turn out to be on-par or better than the old Star Treks. I pay for, on occasion, Hulu, Netflix and CrunchyRoll when they have some interesting shows out but those each have a lot of content. Last time I looked through CBS All Access it had Supergirl and... well, that's about all I'm interested in on it.

Color me both excited and very, very apprehensive.

The pilot episode will probably air after the AFC Championship game in the US. That will probably be my only accurate NFL prediction for next season.

Veloxi wrote:

Color me both excited and very, very apprehensive.

Somehow, this became my default setting.

TheHarpoMarxist wrote:
Veloxi wrote:

Color me both excited and very, very apprehensive.

Somehow, this became my default setting.

Right? The last two shows were piles of sh*t, and the last movie was sooooooo meeeeeeeeeehhhhh, so as much as I love Trek, I'm not letting my heart get broken again.

CBS All Access is the 21st-century equivalent of the Friday Night Death Slot. At least you can't accuse them of not respecting the franchise's history. (-:

bnpederson wrote:
garion333 wrote:
bnpederson wrote:

On the one hand, woo! New Star Trek! Regardless of how "watered down" the movie is, they'll have to avoid big boom-boom stuff because it's a TV series with a TV series' budget.

But then, it's not REALLY a TV series, is it? It's a web series. And I'm not going to pay CBS $8 a month for a limited selection of their content, plus a Star Trek web series.

I don't consider Netflix series to be a "Web series". I feel like you're painting with a broad stroke here.

I expect we'll see other ways to watch it once the streaming viewership turns out to be practically nonexistent

I don't trust a network to put the amount of money into a streaming-only series that Netflix will. Netflix is putting a lot of talent, money and effort into their original shows because that's all they have, streaming is their whole business model at this point. I think CBS is, first and foremost, a broadcast network and I suspect that they'll cut corners for something that's primarily to promote their streaming service.

And just from a content point of view, I don't think CBS has enough to drive me towards their streaming service even if it DOES turn out to be on-par or better than the old Star Treks. I pay for, on occasion, Hulu, Netflix and CrunchyRoll when they have some interesting shows out but those each have a lot of content. Last time I looked through CBS All Access it had Supergirl and... well, that's about all I'm interested in on it.

In no way, shape or form was I trying to say anyone should go with CBS All Access.

But CBS is banking on Star Trek bringing in enough people to kickstart their subscription service, so I don't think it'll be as cheaper as you think.

Will it be on the same level of investment that Netflix had for Marco Polo? I really doubt that.

But streaming is a legit revenue stream and CBS knows it. Their CEO has talked about cord cutters being a legit revenue stream and this is them directly targeting that segment of the market. Apparently, CBS's current viewership is much older than the average. This show is their chance to bring in all the people they are missing out on. In a sense, this show and CBS All Access is their future. Once Boomers die off, CBS won't have a revenue stream outside of sports.

Although I'm making some huge generalizations here, I think that my point stands: CBS isn't likely going to do this show entirely on the cheap. They're aware that a huge chunk of people could care less about their shows and Star Trek is the perfect vehicle to bring a lot of them over, potentially. And if the show wins awards a la House of Cards, then the show will pay for itself.

At the very least the show will be on par cost-wise with SHIELD and Arrow, which many people seem happy with in spite of the budget look and feel. If CBS goes cheaper than that, well, they're incredibly stupid and it'll be a long time before they can resurrect the show.

It's not too dissimilar with how Voyager kicked off and was the flagship show for what was then called UPN. Except for the paying part.

Alright garion333, you convinced me. I'll pay $6 for the first episode and then cancel the sub. Then I'll wait until the season is over, pay another $6, and binge the rest of the season.

Seriously though, I really don't trust "old media" like CBS. I don't watch network shows until they've been on for at least a season or two and I have the sneaking suspicion this is as much a financial decision as it is a "let's make a quality show and the fans will follow" mentality.

I have this picture of a boardroom with someone saying, "Those nerds are techie. They'll pay out the nose for an online Star Trek show!"

I dunno, maybe the last two movies soured me a bit.

PaladinTom wrote:

Alright garion333, you convinced me. I'll pay $6 for the first episode and then cancel the sub.

Or you could just DVR it on regular CBS.

PaladinTom wrote:

Alright garion333, you convinced me. I'll pay $6 for the first episode and then cancel the sub. Then I'll wait until the season is over, pay another $6, and binge the rest of the season.

Seriously though, I really don't trust "old media" like CBS. I don't watch network shows until they've been on for at least a season or two and I have the sneaking suspicion this is as much a financial decision as it is a "let's make a quality show and the fans will follow" mentality.

I have this picture of a boardroom with someone saying, "Those nerds are techie. They'll pay out the nose for an online Star Trek show!"

I dunno, maybe the last two movies soured me a bit.

"I produced seven seasons of 'The Big Bang Theory' I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. Now, who do we have playing the elf?"

CSI Delta Quadrant.

garion333 wrote:

I honestly didn't know CBS had a subscription based streaming service.

They do. It's crap.

$6/month gets you streaming with commercials that ignore designated breaks and pop up at completely random points. If you're ok with that, then all you need to worry about is losing connection to their servers randomly and having to restart the stream.

The only good thing about it was the free trial period which allowed me to cancel before I paid them any money.

(Experiences current as of 2 weeks ago using the CBS All Access Roku app.)

Rat Boy wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

Alright garion333, you convinced me. I'll pay $6 for the first episode and then cancel the sub.

Or you could just DVR it on regular CBS. ;)

Except you can't?

Edit: Ah, you literally meant the pilot episode that everyone gets to see before they put it behind a pay wall.

PaladinTom wrote:

Alright garion333, you convinced me. I'll pay $6 for the first episode and then cancel the sub. Then I'll wait until the season is over, pay another $6, and binge the rest of the season. ;-)

Serengeti wrote:

The only good thing about it was the free trial period which allowed me to cancel before I paid them any money.

Wait for the season to be over, binge for free. Best way to go about it imho.

FWIW, Serengeti's experience with CBS All Access is how I feel about Hulu+. You pay them $10 a month and still have to sit through the same three commercials over and over again.

Sling TV has the same issue with commercials in that, say, ABC Family only runs a handful of commercials so if you want to watch any of their Harry Potter marathon then you're going to see commercials for Monica the Medium approximately 7,000 times before the end of the movie.

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I sincerely miss having a Star Trek show on TV, and would love to see a new one appear. I'd be happiest if it were to continue the original timeline, building on the work that TNG and DS9 laid down in particular (I did enjoy Voyager, but it didn't contribute too much to the story/timeline in the Alpha Quadrant).

garion333 wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

Alright garion333, you convinced me. I'll pay $6 for the first episode and then cancel the sub.

Or you could just DVR it on regular CBS. ;)

Except you can't?

Edit: Ah, you literally meant the pilot episode that everyone gets to see before they put it behind a pay wall.

And that'll be hysterically hyped up left and right during the lead up to the broadcast by CBS' NFL people. Oh, how I can't wait to hear Phil Simms' insight on Star Trek.

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