Trigger warnings: Parts of this show deal with both real and potential horrors in a frank and sometimes graphic manner including...
* Family rejection and the initiation of medical procedures on a transgender person without their consent.
* Tragic loss of family members.
including an infant
* Depression.
* Suicide, and having suicidal thoughts.
* Violence - sometimes severe.
The number of trigger warnings may be increased beyond this since this show deals with mature subjects without flinching.
Spoiler etiquette: Specifics regarding plot and what's going on in the most recent season (hopefully there will be more!) should be spoiler-tagged to protect the sensibilities of those who haven't watched yet and don't want to be spoiled.
If a strong focus on characters and a psy-ence fictioney allegory of our increasingly connected world is your sort of thing, I invite you to watch this if you have already.
My wife and I have been savoring this Netflix series by watching one episode a night. We're 9 episodes down and loving every minute. The show starts off being more than a bit confusing. From the mind-bending beginning the viewer discovers things as the characters do, and oh the characters. The show treats them with a great deal of care and maturity, IMO. By this point I've long since found reasons to love all of them.
Great music also features in the show. The music is often used as a commentary for what the characters are experiencing. Sometimes it's played as-is during great moments like 4 Non Blondes' What's Up?. Other times it'll just be the melody to something awesome like Gary Jules' version of Mad World.
The only thing we're critical of so far is the intro. It goes for two minutes (makes it easy to skip) and doesn't seem to mesh as well with the content. I get what they're going for, but we think it's very static and boring after the first time or two seeing it.
Anyone else watching this and want to chat?
It's like LSD-trip on TV.
There's something sweet about it.
I'm wasted so I'm not of much help here.
I am going to watch this series really soon. Probably after the weekend.
Maybe state if this thread will soiled with spoilers?
Left thoughts back in the Netflix thread. Loved the show a lot! I very much approve of going all out on character development at the cost of having a few plot-holes and unexplained threads here and there. Looking forward to the next season.
This show is all kinds of awesome.
The characters are, for me, what make the show.
Also, it is interesting that, as of episode 11, there is approximately equal screen time for both female nudity (top up only) and male nudity (full frontal). I like that the male nudity is used to have way more of an impact, while the female nudity just is.
Yes! Thanks for making the thread, Lou!
Watched the first few episodes one at a time, and then binged the rest on a weekend. Totally fantastic show. A poster at another site I visit talked about the use of the song "What's Up" in the 4th episode and how that was the point they knew they were hooked. I was pretty much the same in that I was with the show from episode 1, but that scene in 4 was where I went all in. There's something about the idea of the cluster, of having that kind of connection to a group of people and knowing that they will be there when you're at your lowest point. It was a very moving feeling for me.
Anyone want to form a cluster?
I liked the show. A slow burn like Bloodline, but very enjoyable.
On the negative side: some characters were a bit too melodramatic (e.g., Nomi) and some arcs were somewhat boring (e.g., India).
slazev: Trust me as a trans person: That unfortunately wasn't all that melodramatic.
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I've worried about that kind of thing (family taking charge of some situation when I am not able to represent myself) even though my family is pretty supportive. Usually when a news story comes up with that sort of thing.
I had a really difficult time watching those bits until that whole thing became less realistic. It was pretty dealable by about the middle of episode 3, because it was much more firmly in the realm of "silly story about shadowy global organization". But I was still really pretty tense until Nomi finally escaped.
Even without Hyp's more direct ability to relate I still never felt like there was anything overly melodramatic about Nomi's scenes.
The only weak part for her is just a bit of unevenness to her performance in certain moments, but that seemed to hit most often when her dialog wasn't written particularly well anyway. Hard to blame her for that when she was good otherwise.
Great show. Enjoyed the hell out of it, but wish The Wachowskis would do something that wasnt... let's say preachy for the lack of anything better at the moment. With the exception of their adaptations and Bound (maybe the first Matrix to a degree) all their other stuff just POUNDS their opinions over the viewers head. Even if you agree with them it becomes tiresome.
Great show. Enjoyed the hell out of it, but wish The Wachowskis would do something that wasnt... let's say preachy for the lack of anything better at the moment. With the exception of their adaptations and Bound (maybe the first Matrix to a degree) all their other stuff just POUNDS their opinions over the viewers head. Even if you agree with them it becomes tiresome.
It definitely was preachy, but I think the message of Sense8 could stand to be preached a bit more.
Left thoughts back in the Netflix thread.
Most of my thoughts are in the Netflix thread as well, and can be summed up as: Awesome show, despite a few hiccups in the set up.
My primary problem was the distinct lack of a reaction from most of the sensates to their new ability. Once things moved past the set-up it got much harder to stop watching, and I watched the last 5 episodes in one go. As neat as the body-swapping is, the times when the characters visited each other to comfort and commiserate with each other were the best scenes.
There's something about the idea of the cluster, of having that kind of connection to a group of people and knowing that they will be there when you're at your lowest point. It was a very moving feeling for me.
Same here, and when it ended I felt pretty lonely having just me in my head.
Even without Hyp's more direct ability to relate I still never felt like there was anything overly melodramatic about Nomi's scenes.
The only weak part for her is just a bit of unevenness to her performance in certain moments, but that seemed to hit most often when her dialog wasn't written particularly well anyway. Hard to blame her for that when she was good otherwise.
That's exactly what I was talking about. Not about the situations she got thrown into, but her dialog and the actress' performance.
The wife and I are loving the hell out of this show and savouring it as best we can. Best Phil K Dick style Sci Fi on TV right now and that's saying something considering there's an adaptation of The Man In The High Castle.
In one of the first episodes we had a bit of a moment with the Riley storyline: the world she moved in and the characters she interacted with cut quite close to the bone with us. There was actually a point where we looked at each other and said "well thank god we don't have to deal with that crap any more".
Just wanted to echo the praise.
It's real, real good.
Maq wrote:The wife and I are loving the hell out of this show and savouring it as best we can. Best Phil K Dick style Sci Fi on TV right now and that's saying something considering there's an adaptation of The Man In The High Castle.
In one of the first episodes we had a bit of a moment with the Riley storyline: the world she moved in and the characters she interacted with cut quite close to the bone with us. There was actually a point where we looked at each other and said "well thank god we don't have to deal with that crap any more".
This is really cool! To me the characters and their environments feel realistic and seem very well researched. That's enough to appreciate it. When someone who has been there says the same thing about a character though, that takes it to a further level of appreciation.
Yeah, I mean apart from Bambie's atrocious "Australian" accent it felt pretty authentic.
Watching the last 2 episodes tonight. This is such an awesome show. Only hints, and really vague ones at that, as to how this will conclude.
Just finished it. Holy cow. So awesome.
However, does this mean that next season
Will has to stay unconscious the whole time??
mudbunny, my prediction:
They will get him somewhere "safe" where he doesn't know where he is, and then start working on getting to Whispers to try to get rid of this threat. But eventually somebody will accidentally bring something in or let something slip and then they'll suddenly be racing against time because they need Will's skills so they can't just move him again and blah blah blah.
Something like that.
Aww. Episode 10 with Lito and Hernando made me do a little cry :')
Two episodes in and while not perfect, we already like it better than Orphan Black. If only they could bring Felix to Sense8!
I'm one episode in and find the pilot a little disappointing. It feels a bit like Lost and Orphan Black tossed in a blender and Wachowski'd up to the extreme. There are some hard core lens flares here, you guys.
Part of the issue is the ensemble cast exposition dump. With no shared screen time between the main characters the writers have to take a ton of shortcuts to set their stages, and subtlety is tossed out the window to get the viewer up to speed quickly. None of the conversations felt credible to me for this reason.
The Indian lady dumping her entire life story in a monologue to the idol was an especially low point.
I can see how the pilot would be especially challenging to execute and perhaps the show can still win me over. I'm willing to try one more episode at least since there are some interesting elements at play here.
Note that it isn't really a pilot, since the whole season was produced at once. That means a lot less need to really sell the concept compared to a pilot (which has to sell not just audiences on the concept, but also investors). As a result, it's a lot more of a very slow introductory first act, giving us our first glimpse of all of the characters, but not going into real depth with any of them.
If it doesn't annoy you too much, try to go for the first four episodes. Episode 2 is still setting the scene--but only addresses about half of the characters in greater depth. I do think that this focus allows it to set the hooks that episode 1 lacks. Episode 3 has hooks for the other half, more or less.
As the series progresses, the lives of the characters become better explained and more intertwined. They start sharing with each other more and start being able able to control their ability--and the first real look at that is in episode 4. I think if you don't like it by the end of that episode, you're just not going to like it at all.
Note that it isn't really a pilot, since the whole season was produced at once. That means a lot less need to really sell the concept compared to a pilot (which has to sell not just audiences on the concept, but also investors). As a result, it's a lot more of a very slow introductory first act, giving us our first glimpse of all of the characters, but not going into real depth with any of them.
If it doesn't annoy you too much, try to go for the first four episodes. Episode 2 is still setting the scene--but only addresses about half of the characters in greater depth. I do think that this focus allows it to set the hooks that episode 1 lacks. Episode 3 has hooks for the other half, more or less.
As the series progresses, the lives of the characters become better explained and more intertwined. They start sharing with each other more and start being able able to control their ability--and the first real look at that is in episode 4. I think if you don't like it by the end of that episode, you're just not going to like it at all.
Yes, if you're not hooked by the end of episode 4, it's probably just not your thing.
I'm right there with you, gore, about the lack of credible conversations/reactions they have when their ability first starts to manifest. The show definitely takes a bit of perseverance to get through the slow start, but it's more than worth it once things get going.
Wow. The Riley "event" is very, very rough going. We nearly didn't make it through.
Yeah.
I mean, seriously, you may want to update the TW at the top.
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