NFL 2015: Offseason: DeflateGate

Farve got one game for not handing over his cell phone. Other teams received 25k fines for tampering with equipment. The Wells report was a jumbled mess and the NFL purposely withheld evidence that contradicted it. Whether Brady explicitly told them to let out air or not, I don't blame him and the NFL PA one bit for suing.

AnimeJ wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

The drama in this is crazy. The NFL was dumb. The NFL was stomped. We move on.

Regardless of whether or not they were dumb, Goodell was completely within his authority under the CBA to act in the manner he did. Brady, however, went outside the CBA by suing the league and Goodell; non-injury grievences(which this falls under) are required by the CBA to be resolved through an arbitration process.

In short, Brady completely and utterly f*cked the CBA through his jackassery here. Instead of cooperating and playing nice, he decided to be a colossal prick and flip the bird at the entirety of proceedings and agreements that allow him to play in the first place.

At this point, everyone's been stupid. The league dragging it out was moronic. Brady intentionally stonewalling was moronic. The Judge ruling against the league, despite there being *nothing* in the CBA to support that was moronic. So yes, the drama has been stupid beyond all mortal ken. But despite that, absolutely everything the league has done has been within the confines of the CBA. Everything Brady has done has not been. And for that alone, he shouldn't be taking the field any time soon.

This is silly. The NFL broke the CBA all over the place. Hating Brady won't change that.

Have you even read the CBA? The NFLPA agreed to give the league carte blanche when it comes to handing out discipline, and players are required to go through arbitration when it comes to resolving disputes and grievances. They have no option whatsoever to pursue the route they did here.

Yes, I suppose they could have also asked for Brady's first born and naked pics of Gizele. They never exactly specified what they were punishing him for. There are limits...

Anyways this made me laugh a bit. I'll need to watch the whole episode:

http://deadspin.com/south-park-accur...

It's pretty bad when South Park looks stale while riffing on current events.

Well it has almost been on for 20 years now. I feel old...

I find it really hard to believe that somebody is suggesting the CBA gave Goodell absolute power, and any attempt to resist that is somehow a bad thing.

EvilDead wrote:

Yes, I suppose they could have also asked for Brady's first born and naked pics of Gizele. They never exactly specified what they were punishing him for. There are limits...

Anyways this made me laugh a bit. I'll need to watch the whole episode:

http://deadspin.com/south-park-accur...

They did specify, Brady was punished for conduct detrimental to the image of the league.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I find it really hard to believe that somebody is suggesting the CBA gave Goodell absolute power, and any attempt to resist that is somehow a bad thing.

I'm not assigning any sort of labels, I'm simply laying out factual information. The players authorized the NFLPA to engage in contract negotiations regarding the CBA, and this is what came out of it. For better or worse, they're stuck with it until a time comes when they can re-negotiate.

AnimeJ wrote:

The players authorized the NFLPA to engage in contract negotiations regarding the CBA, and this is what came out of it. For better or worse, they're stuck with it until a time comes when they can re-negotiate, or when they can petition a Judge at a higher court to overturn it - the way the legal system works.

I finished your thought for you, to reflect reality.

Edit: Never mind, this appears to be drifting into a weird area of labor laws instead of the actual punishment and / or crime. Back to football thread for me. If only Legion would make a new one!

Atras wrote:
AnimeJ wrote:

The players authorized the NFLPA to engage in contract negotiations regarding the CBA, and this is what came out of it. For better or worse, they're stuck with it until a time comes when they can re-negotiate, or when they can petition a Judge at a higher court to overturn it - the way the legal system works.

I finished your thought for you, to reflect reality.

Except by doing so they're in direct violation of the CBA, and therefore their contract to play at all. Berman's decision to overturn Goodell's legally handed down punishment flies in the face of all established contract law as I understand it, particularly when it comes to binding arbitration clauses. Brady made zero effort to negotiate on a level playing field, instead choosing to destroy evidence and refuse to cooperate with the investigation.

garion333 wrote:

Goodell apologizes.

Spoiler:

IMAGE(https://i.imgflip.com/r7tq6.jpg)

Charles Pierce doing his thang.

If Deflategate did nothing else, it turned two American cities into the angriest backwaters of Texas AA high school football.

History will look back on the last 10 months and go queasy all over. If it wasn’t the Indianapolis media honking away from a high ground of their own manufacture, it was New England fans on social media hunkering down and manning the parapets against a shadowy conspiracy involving almost the entire NFL establishment. None of this was helped by the ham-handed way Roger Goodell handled the matter, or by the incompetent investigation run by Ted Wells. The whole thing ended up in federal court, and it ended up with Brady’s preposterous four-game suspension reversed. The NFL has decided to appeal this ruling, so the zombie idiocy staggers on while New England remains undefeated and Brady enjoys one of the great seasons of his career.