Nintendo Switch Catch-All

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Here's Everything You Need to Know about Nintendo Switch after January 12th's reveal event.

Update: Nintendo on October 20th released a 3:30 trailer for the Nintendo Switch.

Nintendo Switch Trailer

http://kotaku.com/nintendos-next-console-is-code-named-the-nintendo-nx-1691867268

Well, color me surprised. About the DeNA deal, not the new hardware.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Well, color me surprised. About the DeNA deal, not the new hardware.

Yea, me too! I truly respected Nintendo for sticking to thier ideals and staying out of that market. I'll hold judgment until games actually release. I'm cautiously optimistic since they will be new creations, not ports. I would be happy to have a small library of mobile games I actually play and keep on the phone.

Or, the end times have just been signaled.

Oh you jerks....

Well to copy my thoughts on over:

ccesarano wrote:

Well look what I discovered as a surprise this morning. Nintendo confirms that they're working on new hardware codenamed NX, they're teaming with DeNA to develop mobile titles, and they're going to tie it all together with the replacement for Club Nintendo.

It sounds like they're going to be developing the mobile games but won't be abandoning the 3DS for now. If I'm worried, it's only because I recall Nintendo saying the DS wasn't going to replace the GameBoy, and look how that turned out (though I don't know why they would have said that anyway, that or the statements were taken out of context). I imagine, for now, we're just going to see little games like that Puzzles & Dragons title that released on 3DS eShop recently.

Even so, this comes as a bit of a disappointment since I feel like my WiiU is still brand new and has life left in it, but at the same time the new device hasn't really been detailed in any way.

Included in that article is a link to the press conference video (which I've linked to start with the actual conference since it's 30-some minutes of nothing first, and is also translated into English for at least parts of it). I cannot watch it now myself, so I can't get the specifics.

Dang.

More coverage at Eurogamer:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...

Couple of thoughts:

* If they're planning on showing the NX next year (which means it probably won't reach consumers until 2017), I'm betting the NX is a 3DS successor not the Wii U.
* Alternatively, it could be the QoL hardware but they're calling it "dedicated games hardware" so I'm not sure. QoL was AWOL at GDC this year so unless that pops up at E3 this year I don't think we'll hear much more about it until next year.
* Mentioning NX in addition to the existing platforms reminds me of how the DS was touted as the "third pillar" originally before they quietly axed that plan.
* They are not planning on porting existing titles to touch devices which is a good sign, and probably means either new IP or leveraging existing IP in new ways. Obviously, this probably isn't what people want but it also means that they're not doing this as a cynical and lazy cash grab.
* Partnering with DeNA to handle back-end stuff is really smart since that's one area where Nintendo has routinely struggled in the past.
* There's a stock swap as part of the deal, Nintendo gets 10% of DeNA's shares while DeNA gets 1.24% of Nintendo's shares. This apparently makes Nintendo the second biggest shareholder of DeNA stock which seems like it should be a really big deal.
* If anything, this sounds like a diversification strategy (like the Quality of Life platform) rather than "pulling a Sega".

EDIT:

A couple more thoughts:

* Given Iwata's previous statements about "demonstrating value" (or something to that effect) I don't see Nintendo marking a hard turn into F2P territory with the DeNA mobile titles. This means they will probably charge a premium price ($3-12) for most of their games. Nintendo also cares a lot about the quality of their brands and a series of low-quality mobile titles would tarnish their public image, so I think they'll make a strong case for the premium pricing. Having Nintendo enter the mobile space at a time when there is a major push back against low-quality F2P by both consumers and the platform holders is a good thing for mobile gaming.

* Nintendo getting on mobile also raises the prestige of mobile gaming a metric ton. Even with most publishers (and I think Nintendo is one of the few, if not the last, Japanese publishers/developers who didn't have a mobile presence) producing titles on the platforms, people still consider mobile games to be a "second class citizen" despite some really good stuff existing on the various platforms. Nintendo has a really big halo effect and has a general reputation for quality so this should significantly change people's perceptions about the legitimacy of mobile as a gaming platform.

Nintendo, together with DeNA, will jointly develop a new membership service which encompasses the existing Nintendo 3DS and Wii U systems, the new hardware system with a brand-new concept, NX, and smart devices and PCs, and Nintendo will be the primary party to operate this new membership service.

Unlike the Club Nintendo membership service that Nintendo has been operating, the new membership service will include multiple devices and create a connection between Nintendo and each individual consumer regardless of the device the consumer uses. This membership will form one of the core elements of the new Nintendo platform that I just mentioned.

Is this the beginning of an all for one platform? Meaning everything can be played from any device anywhere? The "one console" future?

Or is it just a streaming service that the new NX will tie more directly into?

Well, we already knew that Nintendo was making a few mobile games, and it's not a surprise at all that they're working on a replacement (presumably) for the 3DS. None of this is surprising, although the details are good to know.

Meh. I'll wait for the New NX3.8 ReMix Pro Re-Dream Evolution Hyphen Edition II. With Pro-Stick.

garion333 wrote:
Nintendo, together with DeNA, will jointly develop a new membership service which encompasses the existing Nintendo 3DS and Wii U systems, the new hardware system with a brand-new concept, NX, and smart devices and PCs, and Nintendo will be the primary party to operate this new membership service.

Unlike the Club Nintendo membership service that Nintendo has been operating, the new membership service will include multiple devices and create a connection between Nintendo and each individual consumer regardless of the device the consumer uses. This membership will form one of the core elements of the new Nintendo platform that I just mentioned.

Is this the beginning of an all for one platform? Meaning everything can be played from any device anywhere? The "one console" future?

Or is it just a streaming service that the new NX will tie more directly into?

You know those notifications you get on Wii U and 3DS alerting you about new things in the eShop? You won't be able to escape those now

Don't want another 3rd pillar. It made the 2nd pillar crumble. And I love my n3DS, and still wanted to get and enjoy a Wii U this year.

Stele wrote:

Don't want another 3rd pillar. It made the 2nd pillar crumble. And I love my n3DS, and still wanted to get and enjoy a Wii U this year.

I bet you a VC game right now that the NX is a new handheld, not a replacement for the Wii U. A debut in 2017 would put it coming out after the New 3DS in almost exactly the same timeframe as the 3DS came out after the DSi.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Well, we already knew that Nintendo was making a few mobile games, and it's not a surprise at all that they're working on a replacement (presumably) for the 3DS. None of this is surprising, although the details are good to know.

The Pokemon Company has been making stuff for the last year or so, with an iOS pokedex and Pokemon TCG client.

Nintendo also mentioned at one of their investor meetings that they would be working with a third party to develop "unique gaming experiences" (I think the quote was) for mobile platforms. Now we know who the third party is.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I bet you a VC game right now that the NX is a new handheld,

Come on now, Clocky. You already own all the VC games. :p

Would anybody care for some text versions of the presentation? I hope so!

Iwata talks about Nintendo's IP, why the decision for smartphones was made:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=view...

Iwata talks more about why mobile devices were chosen:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=view...

Iwata talks about their collab with DeNA:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=view...

Iwata says that any Nintendo IP could be used in smart device software:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=view...

Iwata says that the passion for dedicated systems is not lost, teases Nintendo platform NX:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=view...

Iwata wants to create a bridge between mobile and gaming systems:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=view...

Nintendo and DeNA working a new membership service, works on all devices:
http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=view...

This is exciting news for me.

Since I'm pretty much mobile & PC exclusively for gaming, I can't wait to see Nintendo on my nearest smartphone.

They're gonna make mega-bank on the platform if they deliver intelligent titles tailored to the platform's strengths.

I really don't enjoy playing most types of games on my phone; I vastly prefer regular game control/inputs. I've been playing my way through Dragon Quest I-III on the phone simply because of a lack of options, as S-E apparently can't be arsed to put them on the 3DS or Vita, which would be far preferable to me.

I will say that Nintendo games on a phone could convince me to give Android another shot. Although not if they're as boring/uninteresting as Pokémon Shuffle.

I feel like they should specify whether the NX is a home console or a handheld, to avoid scaring people off of buying in the meantime. I'm sort of assuming it's a handheld, because I think that timeline makes a lot more sense, but maybe part of their long-term strategy is to change their console cycle even more from the MS and Sony timetables.

In any case, the WiiU is fantastic as-is, and has yet to see a Zelda or Metroid. Let's stay here for a while, Nintendo.

And when they do replace the WiiU, I would love to see them keep the gamepad model. It has turned out much better than I could have ever imagined.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I feel like they should specify whether the NX is a home console or a handheld, to avoid scaring people off of buying in the meantime. I'm sort of assuming it's a handheld, because I think that timeline makes a lot more sense, but maybe part of their long-term strategy is to change their console cycle even more from the MS and Sony timetables.

Since the N64, Nintendo's had a 2+ year leadup for new consoles, both home and handheld. And a 2017 release of either would be about right for their release cycle, since it'll be about 5 years after the WiiU.

At this point I dont see anything but a single unified platform making any sense for future. Given how powerful the upcoming Nvidia SOC is/will be its probably time for such a system to exist.

Touch screen would continue to be the Wii U style remote pad to ensure compatibility between titles with the HDTV serving as the second screen.

FOV issues might be a problem though.. since both screens when you are playing from your couch arent exactly in your fov at all times like the handheld.

TheGameguru wrote:

At this point I dont see anything but a single unified platform making any sense for future.

Yes, my money is on combination home console / handheld.

Whatever it is, I would really like my VC games to carry over. Time to clear the WiiU pile. I've got time... Time... time....

What if the Nintendo Subscription Club works with the DX that has cell technology in it?

I know we had a Vita with 3G support and whatnot, but it was an addon. Here we have a Wii U Gamepad-esque controller thing with built in Wifi and 4G connection that we pay Nintendo for internet access on the cell portion.

Something like that.

It'll connect to the WiiU and you can play over any distance. It'll basically be what Sony's been selling with the PS4/Vita/Now.

TheGameguru wrote:

FOV issues might be a problem though.. since both screens when you are playing from your couch arent exactly in your fov at all times like the handheld.

It really depends on a lot of specific game mechanics, but a lot of games like Monster Hunter and Batman have used the touchscreen to display secondary info and provide context sensitive quick buttons.

That approach works well. The other option is to just mirror the screen and sound output between the two, which Nintendo has completely nailed with the WiiU. The tech they used to synch the screens and the sound output is pretty much magical

Demyx wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

At this point I dont see anything but a single unified platform making any sense for future.

Yes, my money is on combination home console / handheld.

I would love this. Since Nintendo isn't trying to compete in the realistic graphics arena (and are better served doing their own thing, imho), this is entirely feasible for the next iteration.

I would freaking love a handheld that connects to your TV via a dongle or something. Let additional players use their own handheld, a Wiimote, or a pro controller.

They need to do something smart with save game data, in the event that multiple people are using their handhelds - maybe everyone gets the save?

Does NX stand for Nintendo Cross? in which case my money is on a single platform, that crosses both handheld and on your TV.

gamerparent wrote:

Does NX stand for Nintendo Cross? in which case my money is on a single platform, that crosses both handheld and on your TV.

This is typically how my girls interact with the WiiU now. They play on the TV, but if it gets too hard on a particular level, or jump/action, I get the WiiU controller brought over to where I am, then I do the business off the little screen, while I hear the kids cheering in the main room.

I'd look forward to that implemented without a range restriction.

gamerparent wrote:

Does NX stand for Nintendo Cross? in which case my money is on a single platform, that crosses both handheld and on your TV.

I'm thinking "New Experience". Similar to how "UX" is shorthand for "User Experience" in software development.

My controller doesn't reach outside of the main room, although that's not really a problem.

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