Rock Band 4 Catch-All: Let's get the band back together!

T-Prime wrote:

It'll be a little while until I have enough cash saved up to pick up an Xbox One for this, but hopefully by then the Rock Band 1/2/3/Lego/Green Day song import stuff will be sorted out.

Seriously, if I can have that whole entire library in RB4, I would be such a happy guy.

This was me when it was announced. I actually bought an Xbox One specifically for this, because I have all this content on 360 already, and it'd cost me more to buy it back than to get an Xbox One.

^ Same.

The moment RB4 was announced, I budgeted an Xbox One w/ the Band in a Box.

So this afternoon, I scavenged the Pro Drums cymbals off my old drum kit, and they plugged right into the new generation's kit. Work perfectly. Almost tempted to also grab the old bass pedal so I'd have a double-bass setup, but I'm still terminally stuck at Medium on Pro Drums.

After a few hours of drumming, I think my position on the Dynamic Fills has been moved from "they're awesome" to "ok, they're cool". I'm finding them very "swing-y" - you'll sometimes get a fill that's just 3 toms over 2 measures, or you'll wind up with upwards of 20 notes or more over the same 2 measures. It's surely lives up to the name "Dynamic", though.

Anyone else having quite a few hardware problems? I'm noticing that my snare drum registers like 1/2 the hits I play, over a certain BPM. Forget about any drum rolls.

For some reason I thought my ancient wired Strat would work with X1. Not so much. Now looking for any retailer with the legacy game controller adapter, but no luck. Looks like today is single guitar/bass night then.

I played around with the guitar solos a bit. Feels a lot of fun and creative at first brush.

The new guitar is very good. I never got on with the RB guitars, always preferring the GH versions, but this one is nice. The neck buttons feel much more solid and responsive, even if I miss the strumming click. Looking forward to setting up the drums tonight and playing with the career mode, as well as the freestyle singing.

So far the only things I'm missing from RB3 are the near instant load times, the main menu atmosphere (they really nailed it in that one), and obviously my 500+ track list with all the discs exported. I couldn't find all of my DLC songs, but the vast majority are present. Some have become cover or live versions, while some previous covers are now originals. There are some cases where they're not available for free. I presume they're still working through issues.

It was a painful thought to have to find the old DLC tracks and download them one by one, but in practice I didn't mind, shopping for new tracks while at it. I don't want to know how many more I ended up buying... the wishlist is 40 tracks, now.

Nobody is selling the legacy game controller adapter separately, it seems like it's always bundled with the game, or guitar and game. If you know of some place I could find it online, please share.

I have a PS3 Strat and it works like a rockstar on my PS4. Strangely enough, my wired old mic seems to be a bit lazy.

On another note, I give Harmonix all the props in the world. But the DLC process could be a bit easier than it is. Downloading every single piece of DLC individually is a really long process.

Played all night. Tour mode is very good, love the writing and the choices. Voting for songs is so much fun, I wish there was a way to do that in quickplay, and the random requests between setlist songs keeps everyone alert and engaged. Tour mode for singers is rather hard though, especially when the game is only offering RB4 on-disc tracks, most of which are unknown to our group.

All in all it's like 2007 all over again. It feels like a fresh start, much as I loved RB3. We now have three sets of RB drums in the office, and I don't even know how many guitars. It's as fun as it ever was.

Any one have any luck connecting to the PS4 RB4 store to grab old DLC? I keep getting a "store is down" message. And the few songs I recognize owning on the PS storefront say 'unavailable'. I like the new interface for the most part, but this feels like a rough launch compared to the previous entries, at least from my experience.

PewPewRobo wrote:

Any one have any luck connecting to the PS4 RB4 store to grab old DLC? I keep getting a "store is down" message. And the few songs I recognize owning on the PS storefront say 'unavailable'. I like the new interface for the most part, but this feels like a rough launch compared to the previous entries, at least from my experience.

I had this problem. I didn't get the "store is down" message more than once. I just tried to log in again. As for the second problem I went to the PSN through the computer and forced downloaded those songs while my PS4 was on rest. They did not show up as unavailable through the store (I searched for each one as the filtering didn't seem to work right).

Also note, there are still several songs that show up as "unavailable" because they are just that but will be made available "soon".

Good to know, thanks!

Now I must ask, how do you abbreviate your handle? So many options.

Garth wrote:

I have a PS3 Strat and it works like a rockstar on my PS4.

This is actually a Microsoft problem, not anything that Harmonix or Mad Catz did. PS3 and PS4 use the same Bluetooth protocols for controllers, so you can use PS3 gear on PS4 (and vice versa).

Microsoft changed protocols between the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, and Mad Catz had to figure out how to support legacy gear - hence the "Legacy Controller Adapter".

McIrishJihad wrote:

PS3 and PS4 use the same Bluetooth protocols for controllers, so you can use PS3 gear on PS4 (and vice versa).

The Bluetooth protocols the systems use is irrelevant; wireless PS3 instruments already used a USB dongle, and that same dongle works with the PS4. What it looks like it boils down to is: Sony lets all the relevant PS3 USB devices work with the PS4. Microsoft doesn't let any 360-specific USB device work on the One, but they did allow the wireless because they could lock it down and still put "use your old instruments!" on the box.

On a completely different note, every few months some friends of mine throw Rock Band 3 parties. I always used to bring my songs and gamertag on a USB drive to add to the mix. In a couple of weeks they'll be hosting another one, this time with Rock Band 4. What do I have to do to get my DLC onto their system? I don't own RB4 yet.

Vargen wrote:

On a completely different note, every few months some friends of mine throw Rock Band 3 parties. I always used to bring my songs and gamertag on a USB drive to add to the mix.

I had no idea you could do that. I've always lugged a console (or two) with me. If that's still an option with RB4, that would be interesting.

Ugh, thats tacky. I love Harmonix (and their offices are about a 15 minute walk from me), but still tacky.

Honestly, I assume that this is really common. In this case, they did it in a way that was obvious.

But whenever I read reviews on sites like Amazon, I take them with a massive grain of salt, regardless of the product. It might even be competitors sh*tting on them. You have to read several, look for themes and try to square that with other input.

I am sure it happens pretty frequently also. It just has to be embarrassing to be caught doing it. I also wouldn't be surprised if the writers were pressured into it. Based on how troublesome the launch of this game has been.

Soooo, re: DLC... All my rock band play has previously been on a friend's 360 under his xbox account with several hundred DLC songs purchased. We're planning to pick up RB4 tonight, but the Xbone we're going to be playing on is mine. He may not be purchasing his own for several months. This begs a couple of questions:

--Any idea if Xbox live will allow us to redownload all of the DLC if he signs into my machine using his account?
--If it does allow that, might this create problems down the road when he picks up an Xbone and wants to download all the DLC to his own machine?

He'll have to sign in on your Xbox One and mark it as his "Home Xbox" to let anyone play those songs on your Xbox when he's not signed in.

Down the road, when he buys his own Xbox One, if he sets that as his new "Home Xbox", he'll need to be signed in on your Xbox to let anyone else play those songs.

The "Home Xbox" concept is what allows other users to play content bought with a different gamertag. You're basically saying "this is MY Xbox, let anyone else on here use the stuff that I bought".

Gotcha - thanks for the quick response Irish. I assume the same Xbox can be the home xbox for multiple gamer accounts?

Being ignorant of the DLC download process, my biggest concern was that it wouldn't allow us to download all that DLC more than once, but I'm realizing that would be pretty foolish on their part so...

One other question, probably rhetorical: my buddy went to the store to buy the game and was told by the clerk that the legacy controller adapter to support our old RB3 stuff only allows one controller to be used at a time. This smells like hogwash and online sources indicate it can handle up to four controllers at once but I just want to confirm this is indeed the case.

Yes, one Xbox One can be considered the Home Xbox for multiple accounts.

It's not about downloading, it's about access :/

The clerk was half right. The legacy adapter will let you connect all your wireless drums and guitars, but the Xbox One sees all those controllers as one single controller when it comes to gamertags. So you can't really assign a gamertag/sign in to the instruments connected via the adapter, but you can still play with a mix of wired stuff, wireless XBone controllers, and wireless controllers connected via the adapter.

My buddy picked this (band in a box so we didn't have to futz with the adapter) up last weekend and we put it through its paces. Fun! We ran into some minor issues downloading our old DLC at first that were remedied by restarting the Xbone after installation. The new instruments are REALLY solid. We're pretty excited about playing again.

Considering how big the update coming in December is supposed to be, it seems like the current version is almost like a beta.

Just dropping by to point out that I've started a new catch-all thread to consolidate the music game genre into a something that can hopefully sustain a bit more life: https://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/1299385

FYI, Gamestop has the base game and the new guitar for $80 right now, which is the same price as the game and legacy adapter on XB1. Normally, the game and guitar are $130. Since my old guitars are kind of janky, I think this is a good time to jump in.

No word on RB1/2/3 song import (though I'm sure this is more in the realm of the lawyers), but hey, Rock Band VR is coming.

Eh? I've got most of 1 and 3 in my library. It's 2 that we're still waiting on.

Oh I had no idea! I don't have RB4 yet, as I was waiting on news about how to export RB1/2/3/Lego libraries to 4. Also money.

Good to know

Rock Band 3 required an export license purchase. The original Rock Band just sort of showed up in my "available DLC" menu. Which wasn't exactly obvious. And the "Download All" button was super easy to miss. Those are Xbox One issues though.

I just checked the Harmonix forums. One of the top threads is a HMX employee apologizing for the delay with RB2 and Lego RB exports.