Life is Strange by Developer Dontnod

Many wrote:

The Moment When the Implications of BtS Being a Prequel Take Root

I first thought of that on the train, and what makes it ever sadder:

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is the certainty Rachel talks about her plans. It's not "I'd like to go to L.A." it's "I will go to L.A." which hits way harder for me.

I'd actually be super curious, (if in a vaguely morbid sort of way), to watch someone play through the series in chronological (er...pardon the pun) order to see how they react to the way the story unfolds.

Not just for the obvious reasons, too. It would be interesting to see how they feel about other characters, like Max, especially, but also the side characters like Warren

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Would they be far more cautious in trusting Warren given what happens with Elliot, for example.

pyxistyx wrote:

Not just for the obvious reasons, too. It would be interesting to see how they feel about other characters, like Max, especially, but also the side characters like Warren

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Would they be far more cautious in trusting Warren given what happens with Elliot, for example.

Huh. Now I’m curious. Because I’m halfway through episode three (streaming right now!).

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In my LiS world, Max and Warren totally end up together.

I'm afraid, Eleima, I have to disagree with your world:

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Chloe and Max enter into a beautiful, committed relationship and decide to have a child together. Their bloodline stays, roughly, in the western United States, eventually leading to Horizon's Aloy, who sounds suspiciously like her great-great-lotsofgreats-grandmother, Chloe.

pyxistyx wrote:

I'd actually be super curious, (if in a vaguely morbid sort of way), to watch someone play through the series in chronological (er...pardon the pun) order to see how they react to the way the story unfolds.

I would be pretty curious to see this as well, because I was wondering the same thing on my recent quest to get Platinum. Sadly, nothing specific is coming to mind now, but I felt there were a lot of things and moments that commented on, reflected, or even referenced events and characters from the original.

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Eliot and Warren being prime examples. I actually need to show Eliot to my aforementioned sister, because I think he's a dead ringer for the default model of Buffy Summers Nice High School Boy.

Or just seeing the Elder Prescott carries a lot of weight. Curious to know what the whole things is like when he's just some guy at first.

OH MY GOSH, I WAS WRONG. About my last spoiler:

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I guess I should've known after reading his creepy poetry, but oh my gosh, Eliot is a freakin' creepy stalker. I wish I'd gotten him expelled.

About Warren, I really disagree, but you know...
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Just finished episode 2. Daaaaaaang.

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I'm just... mortally afraid that this will tear Chloe and Rachel apart as Rachel tries to reconnect with her parents and and and... gah.

Other things I noted here: I think Nathan's reaction to being on stage with the lines that were thrown at him is completely understandable, given the stuff he's (already?) involved with. :X Jeez.

But wait, there’s more! I just finished episode three last night, so trust me when I tell you to hold on to your hat.

And now I've finished Episode 3.

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I suspected that Amber's dad wasn't telling the whole truth. I figured stuff with Damon was going to get hairy. I knew Eliot felt sketchy and creepy.

But damn, I basically did not see any of that coming. All the threads basically pulled tight together right at the end in ways that in retrospect make absolute sense, but which... wow. Yeah.

Wow.

Oh jeez. Do I want to buy the Vinyl Edition? :X

Ayup. Totally didn't see it coming neither. I'm glad it wasn't just me.
What's the vinyl edition though? Is that the deluxe edition with the bonus episode? Because I'm considering getting that.

Eleima wrote:

Ayup. Totally didn't see it coming neither. I'm glad it wasn't just me.
What's the vinyl edition though? Is that the deluxe edition with the bonus episode? Because I'm considering getting that.

It's basically a collector's edition, and includes this, among other things:
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Oh, now that's sweeeeeet.

first thing I'd do is get my blue paint out, but otherwise that's totes adorbs!

Just finished BtS Episode 2. Still loving it! Surprised I had some technical issues with it, though, lots of weird screen tearing at first, though it seemed to get better after I turned off the frame rate limiting. I was really pleased by how many choices had me just staring at the screen stumped for a minute before I decided what to do. Spoilers on details.

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I wasn't sure what to do with the initial scene with Rachel. When she started covering for Chloe,
I went along with it--she's already out on this limb, it didn't seem like it'd make things better by saying she was lying. But when it seemed she would miss out on the play, I couldn't allow that to happen.

I was also totally torn about what to do with Drew and Mikey. Having read all the notes in Drew's room,
I understood that Drew needed the money for his dad, and it seemed blindingly obvious that letting Drew get beat up would mean an injury that would threaten his scholarship. But Drew seemed very clear that he didn't want us to come out, and I didn't want Mikey to get hurt instead. I ultimately stayed in the room and gave Drew back his money when it was over. I feel like I definitely made the decision that will make those characters like me the most, but I'm not sure that I made the best decision for their futures. Hrmph.

Is Samuel's portrayal offensive? Is he supposed to be a like a magical mentally challenged person? I've never really understood what they're trying to do with him, but it just strikes me as a bunch of bad choices.

Midway through my interaction with Skip, I had the terrible realization that by the end of this game, he's likely to not be a security guard anymore so that David can take his job. I really hope Chloe doesn't get him fired. Fingers crossed that instead he leaves to pursue his musical dreams. He seems like a nice dopey guy, and I'd feel bad if he gets canned because Chloe dupes him in some way.

I loved the scenario where Chloe found Victoria trying to drug Rachel. When Victoria offers Rachel the tea, I initially paused at the "distract Victoria / warn Rachel choice" but then I realized wait, why the hell wouldn't I just say "Hey Rachel, I think Victoria put something in your tea"? And of course, the second Victoria started acting offended at the suggestion that she'd tried to drug Rachel I was saying "then you drink it!!!" to my computer screen, so I was thrilled when the game gave me the option to say that. The resulting scene where everyone's talking before the play and Victoria just tumbles to the ground and no one even bothers to help her was hysterical. Great foreshadowing too on Chloe seeing that crow mask and commenting on what kind of dork would wear that ridiculous costume before cutting to Chloe in the costume. If you don't encourage Victoria to drink the drugged tea, does she end up being the one to take on the role? That's what I assume from the way the camera (hilariously) cuts to a prone Victoria when the director is asking who can play the role.

The play scene was really sweet. It seemed so crucial to the plot, I have to imagine that points in the story where it seemed like the play might not happen (the expulsion, Victoria with the drugs) must all find some way to resolve in Rachel playing the role and Chloe playing Ariel, but maybe not? Just hard to believe they'd let some people miss that scene.

The reveal about Sera being Rachel's mom was weird, and also doesn't really explain why Rachel's dad was making out with her? I'm kinda not into it...it just feels like an unnecessary complication the story didn't need, even if it got a "woah" out of me.

I found Chloe's performance of lame jokes at the Amber family dinner to be really charming. It's hard to pull off those lame jokes without being annoying, but the "1 2 3, Sherry" and "how'm I supposed to get to China?" bits both made me chuckle in spite of myself.

Ack, now there's just one episode left? Drat.

All done. Quite an experience. I'm so glad I got to spend more time with these characters and this world. I'm ultimately disappointed by the plot, for reasons I'll detail in spoilers, but it was still incredibly effective on an emotional level. They did a fantastic job of establishing Rachel as a character I cared about and a believable connection with Chloe (even if, as they occasionally comment on, it's established in an absurdly short time). I'm really curious to see what the Epilogue will be...I hope it's not totally gut-wrenching, but suspect it will be.

Spoilery reaction to Episode 3 plot stuff:

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I think by the end of this, the story was...dumb? Nothing Rachel's dad did made much sense to me,
and the sort of generic "the things a dad will do to protect his daughter!" justification just didn't make sense,
and Sera's ultimate decision was baffling too.

--Aside from throwing us an initial red herring, was there any reason for James to kiss Sera, or for Sera to kiss him back? As you learn more and more about those characters' relationship to each other, it really just seems like a poorly justified way of letting you be suspicious of James while giving them a chance to throw a twist at you.

--After you break into the Amber house, discover that James has put a hit out on Sera and is secretly cooperating with an evil criminal, destroy evidence from a criminal investigation, set a small fire, steal a large pile of cash, and then call the police there to arrive at the house to find a stalker who has even less reason to be there than you do...apparently nothing comes of any of that? Even after that criminal which had been under investigation by the DA's office, whose evidence was being stored at the DA's house and some of which then disappeared, then stabs the DA's daughter with a knife, and apparently is dead or missing at the end of the story? None of this comes back on James?

--I understand, generally, why James might be worried about Sera getting involved in Rachel's life, but so worried that he would order a hit on her by hiring a criminal he was investigating? I don't think that makes sense for him on an emotional level, a moral level, or a practical level. I think they could've found a way to serve the narrative purposes here without taking it to these extremes.

--Sera has regretted for most of Rachel's life that she wasn't a part of her life, but then, after significantly stepping up her efforts to make contact with her (albeit without doing some really obvious things like showing up at her school or waiting outside her house or something), after James hires someone to kidnap and kill her, when she survives that (and how did she survive?), she decides "well, I went to these great lengths because I really wanted to meet Rachel and tell her that her mom isn't really her mom and her dad has been lying to her for her entire life, but now that James had me kidnapped and I could have been killed, I realize I want to make sure Rachel thinks he's a good guy, so actually, forget it." What?? If those reasons mattered to her, why didn't they matter before, and why is James doing something terrifying and criminal and immoral the thing that makes her say "actually, maybe he has a point"? Also, if I were her, I would not assume that after I had successfully survived that initial attack that James would just let it go rather than wanting to eliminate any evidence of his own criminal activities. Her decisions make even less sense to me than James'.

--But also, according to a little googling, if I had asked Rachel for her bracelet instead of for a kiss (which was clearly the correct choice in Episode 2), then I would've been able to give that to Sera and she would've actually met Rachel? Argh. That is frustrating.

--So what happened with Frank and Damon? I'm guessing we're to infer that Frank killed Damon? Why were they just gone after Chloe wakes up? Given the illogic of most of what happened after Chloe woke up, I kept expecting it to be another dream or hallucination, but I guess Frank somehow killed Damon and got him out of the mill without leaving much of a mess or sustaining any obvious injuries himself, and Sera didn't feel the need to comment on it?

--Frank burning his photo of him and Damon together was hilarious. I'd like to believe that every drug dealer I have ever encountered has loving pictures of them with their suppliers.

--The final decision about what to tell Rachel didn't feel especially meaningful. Maybe it would've had more impact if I didn't know Rachel only had a few months to live. I suspect it could've been more interesting if the game seemed to appreciate the severity of what James had done...I'd be more interested in a choice along the lines of report or testify against James or not. If they wanted James' conduct to be potentially excused as "dads will do a lot to protect their kids!" they should've scaled his conduct down to be in the ballpark of a "dads will be dads" excuse. But if it's just about whether Rachel is happy with her dad or not, I guess might as well let her enjoy her last few months (or however long).

--I guess nothing ever really came of the fire? It didn't matter that I signed that petition about safe forests? It didn't matter that Rachel started the fire? There was nothing supernatural going on in the weird way the fire exploded around Rachel? There was no particular reason Rachel was following and watching Chloe at the show at the mill?

Okay that probably just reads like a long list of complaints, but I really did love this! It succeeds on a level of tone and character that gets me totally wrapped up in the world so that I could allows me to overlook the ways it fail in terms of plot and logic.

Last bonus episode is out March 6. Wohoo.

mrlogical wrote:

Okay that probably just reads like a long list of complaints.

No, while the emotional and thematic logic of ep 3 is very strong, the events themselves are...a bit out there. They didn't prevent it from being my GOTY, though.

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I really like to imagine Eliot's expression when he learns what, exactly, he's copping to.

More Feels, incoming!

And WELCOME BACK ASHLY BURCH , Yas!

Huh, just got to Episode 3 last night, so looks like I timed it perfectly to pick this up right after.

Excite!

I am afeared of what this might to do me before both an office day and an ironic wine book club gathering. Might have to save it for Friday...

A really strange trip this game has been on--consider, we're rightfully happy Burch and Telle are back as Max and Chloe, but they never actually were these versions of the two. But not bringing them back would have been a wasted opportunity. This is a long way of saying I'm glad Burch is back in the role, but I also think Rhianna DeVries did an admirable job in Before the Storm. A bunch of characters in that sound off, but she is not one of them.

I JUST PLAYED IT AND OMG WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS TO ME DONTNOD :'(

Also...

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See! It's right there in black and white... Rule Number 2. "NO BOYS ON THE SHIP"

That means YOU, Warren! You...Plankwalker....you.

I was going to say, it's live on the PS store right now. It also still defaults to taking me to the bundle page.

pyxistyx wrote:

And WELCOME BACK ASHLY BURCH , Yas!

wait... I knew she was not back because of the strike, but are you saying that she came back for episode 3? mid-game they re-re-cast her??

edit: oh, Farewell is not part of Before the Storm... I did not realize. Or it is, but it's extra... it's confusing!
because... the title of the video is "...Before the storm - Farewell "

it's a extra stand alone episode you get if you buy into the collectors edition or whatever they are calling it, set just prior to Max leaving for Seattle.

These games are real treasures. Not much more to say. Actually, quite a bit more to say, but I'll save it. In the meantime, I might have to play it all again.

That farewell. Damn. So worth it just for all the fun and carefree. Arrgh me hartey.

Dominic Knight wrote:

That farewell. Damn. So worth it just for all the fun and carefree. Arrgh me hartey.

The cassette tape bit at the end tho'

*heart breaks into a million pieces*

pyxistyx wrote:
Dominic Knight wrote:

That farewell. Damn. So worth it just for all the fun and carefree. Arrgh me hartey.

The cassette tape bit at the end tho'

*heart breaks into a million pieces*

I know. That wrecked me the most.

I still haven't played it! Stop making me love it before I have an opinion. *harumph*

God, just played through all of BtS. So good.