Marvel Media (Spoiler Thread)

Someone kidnapped their dog.

They might not have been affected by the blip- the Celestials are more powerful than the Infinity Stones and the Eternals were created by the Celestials and channel their power. They are also incredibly difficult to kill, one of the Eternals was completely disintegrated while experimenting with the Celestial’s cosmic energy but still lives on as a disembodied consciousness.
It seems like the new Dr Strange is going to be one of the “big” movies driving the bigger MCU narrative forward this phase so I’m assuming their motivation will have something to do with whatever’s going to happen in that movie.

Seem to remember somewhere hearing that Celestials were memory wiped to where they thought they were normal humans at times?

And isn't Thanos a Celestial?

I've never read their comics, just seem to remember hearing this when the movie was announced.

MannishBoy wrote:

Seem to remember somewhere hearing that Celestials were memory wiped to where they thought they were normal humans at times?

And isn't Thanos a Celestial?

I've never read their comics, just seem to remember hearing this when the movie was announced.

Looks like he's at least half Eternal in the comics. I don't think they bothered explaining it in the MCU, which is probably for the best.

Thanos was a Titan.

The Titans have been Eternals since the 80's I believe.

lunchbox12682 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

Seem to remember somewhere hearing that Celestials were memory wiped to where they thought they were normal humans at times?

And isn't Thanos a Celestial?

I've never read their comics, just seem to remember hearing this when the movie was announced.

Looks like he's at least half Eternal in the comics. I don't think they bothered explaining it in the MCU, which is probably for the best.

Sorry, meant Eternal and not Celestial. I'm way out over my skis on anything Cosmic Marvel.

MannishBoy wrote:
lunchbox12682 wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:

Seem to remember somewhere hearing that Celestials were memory wiped to where they thought they were normal humans at times?

And isn't Thanos a Celestial?

I've never read their comics, just seem to remember hearing this when the movie was announced.

Looks like he's at least half Eternal in the comics. I don't think they bothered explaining it in the MCU, which is probably for the best.

Sorry, meant Eternal and not Celestial. I'm way out over my skis on anything Cosmic Marvel.

None of it matters anyway. Cosmic seems especially prone to recons.

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I Baron or Bad Ass Revolutionary Of Nothingness really liked marvel's Modok after the first episode. Oddly the series is one long movie instead of self contained episode. After watching the first episode I thought it would be a different story each episode. The one bad thing might be that it ended on a cliffhanger. I don't think a second season has been confirmed.

I thought Thanos was a deviant? Which I guess is a mutant eternal? Or an eternal that goes rogue?

fangblackbone wrote:

I thought Thanos was a deviant? Which I guess is a mutant eternal? Or an eternal that goes rogue?

Thanos was the son of two Eternals, though he seems to just be a straight-up alien in the MCU. The Celestials messed around with the genes of a lot of planets though so he could just be his homeworld’s equivalent of an Eternal.
Deviants aren’t Eternals, though they were created at the same time. The Deviants were basically just the Celestials playing around with human genes to see how far they could push our genome, and each Deviant is unique from each other whereas the Eternals are just humans cranked up to 11.

This is a case of one character having multiple origins. The comics I read Thanos is Titan from Titan. He tricked the gods/advance aliens and took their power.

In the comics most of the Eternals left Earth and live on Titan, Saturn’s moon. This could be something that was retconned or it could just be one of the problems that arise with a complex mythology covered by hundreds of different writers.

I just hope they have a plausible reason for, “where were they?” and that it comes relatively early in the film.

PaladinTom wrote:

I just hope they have a plausible reason for, “where were they?” and that it comes relatively early in the film.

Thanos only wanted to wipe out half of all life on Earth, not all life on Earth, so maybe it didn’t really concern them:

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PaladinTom wrote:

I just hope they have a plausible reason for, “where were they?” and that it comes relatively early in the film.

Bacchus was throwing one hell of a rager. They finally ran out of olives for the drinks.

ruhk wrote:

Thanos only wanted to wipe out half of all life on Earth, not all life on Earth, so maybe it didn’t really concern them:

Is that Liefeld? Looks like his "style".

Quintin_Stone wrote:
ruhk wrote:

Thanos only wanted to wipe out half of all life on Earth, not all life on Earth, so maybe it didn’t really concern them:

Is that Liefeld? Looks like his "style".

I think it's Chris Bachalo. One of my all time least favorite artists.

It’s from Gaiman’s run so I think it’s Romita but I don’t remember offhand.

ruhk wrote:

It’s from Gaiman’s run so I think it’s Romita but I don’t remember offhand.

Yup, you're correct. I'm not a fan of him either.

I read that run last week. Meh. Was trying very hard to feel important and mythological, and pretty much every character was completely forgettable.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
ruhk wrote:

Thanos only wanted to wipe out half of all life on Earth, not all life on Earth, so maybe it didn’t really concern them:

Is that Liefeld? Looks like his "style".

Nah; people’s joints appear to be roughly where human joints would be. Although we don’t see any feet...

Rolling Stone has an oral history of WandaVision with all sorts of commentary from the cast and other involved parties, and it's pretty damn fascinating.

And for some reason, the first episode of Loki drops tomorrow instead of Friday.

There was a commercial tonight during NBA playoffs the just said coming soon. Kind of confused me, like they don't have a date yet?

They've been advertising it as a Wednesday thing for a while now.

First episode of Loki was pretty good and introduces some interesting new mythology to the MCU. They *sort of* address the time travel issues in Endgame despite the time travel rules in this show raising entirely new problems with how that movie resolved. It’s not really a spoiler but the solution presented in the show is basically “it’s supposed to be like that, don’t worry about it.”

ruhk wrote:

“it’s supposed to be like that, don’t worry about it.”

Pretty sure that is the rules for all time-travel fiction. And I say that as a big Whovian.

The first episode of Loki gets a bit of a ‘hmmmm’ from me.

All the Timey-Whimey stuff didn’t bother me because I really wasn’t sure that Tom Hiddleston’s heart is in it. His performance was more perfunctory rather than gleeful, although I think that is partly down to some much of the episode being exposition and a recap of everything that’s happened in the MCU movies to this point. It sucked quite a bit of momentum from the show to be honest, it was a little dull in places.

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I also didn’t really get why all the variant timelines had to be on Earth. There’s an entire universe out there Marvel, if Agents of SHIELD can do it, so can this show!

That said Owen Wilson was terrific and there is more than enough premise here for things to improve considerably.

I really hope they do.