Marvel Media (This is the spoiler thread, Q-Stone - You're welcome)

Given their deep cast of delightful characters, I really wish they'd just make Ant-Man a Disney+ TV show. Do away with big, world-threatening villains and do some smaller stories.

That would be wonderful.

Veloxi wrote:

You guys, Ant Man 3 is happening, and it makes me so happy.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...

Ant Man 3/The Wasp 2.

Hangdog wrote:

Given their deep cast of delightful characters, I really wish they'd just make Ant-Man a Disney+ TV show. Do away with big, world-threatening villains and do some smaller stories.

Oh gosh yes please.

Veloxi wrote:
Hangdog wrote:

Given their deep cast of delightful characters, I really wish they'd just make Ant-Man a Disney+ TV show. Do away with big, world-threatening villains and do some smaller stories.

Oh gosh yes please.

I'd like an "X-Con Security Consultants" show on Disney+ please!

(lip synced) "That would be super-fine, yo!"

Super fine!

Hangdog wrote:

Given their deep cast of delightful characters, I really wish they'd just make Ant-Man a Disney+ TV show. Do away with big, world-threatening villains and do some smaller stories.

I see what you did there

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While i wish Black widow got her own movie before Endgame I am glad she is getting one.

Stealthpizza wrote:

While i wish Black widow got her own movie before Endgame I am glad she is getting one.

I agree, though I also feel like this is the backdoor to getting her little sister in as the next Black Widow in Avengers: New Blood.

So what have we learned here? If you are upset at your boss for a business decision, talk to them when you are drunk, start weeping and everything will go all right!

Saw an interview with Bill Sienkiewicz recently and he said he's happy with this trailer and what the movie is shaping into.m

Personally i think it's a train wreck waiting to happen. Hope i'm wrong.

It looks not awful? I mean, I'm assuming it will be, but just the look of Magik and Sunspot alone make me intrigued. They're at least apparently trying to make it somewhat honest to the superhero origins, and that's more than I expected.

I guess if we are getting Blade we have to have Morbius. I am intrigued.

fishdude wrote:

I guess if we are getting Blade we have to have Morbius. I am intrigued.

Sony's got to work up to some kind of Sinister Six.

A. I could not be less interested in a Sony Spider-verse movie than I am for Morbius. Jared Leto on top of it? Buuuuuuuuh.

B. Having watched Far From Home, finally, this weekend... makes me even less excited for this. I didn't find Venom all that interesting without Spider-man to play off of... this has me even less excited as it doesn't even have all that interesting a character to work with.

C. Too much scrolling back to find, am I the only one who was just straight lukewarm on Far From Home? The last hour was really good but everything up to that had me more bored than I've ever been watching a Marvel movie. Homecoming did a nice blend of teenage coming of age comedy and superhero movie where you moved between those beats multiple times back and forth before the car ride to prom that does a hard snap from teenage comedy to VERY HUGE SUPERHERO MOMENT of suspense. This... however, really just felt like it was trying to be teenage comedy in the first half to immediately all superhero in the latter half. Super weird.

Homecoming is the far superior of the two movies, mostly due to Michael Keaton, but I did enjoy Far From Home well enough.

I loved Far From Home. After Endgame, I needed to mourn just like Peter.

Demosthenes wrote:

C. Too much scrolling back to find, am I the only one who was just straight lukewarm on Far From Home?

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I liked most of the interactions of Peter with MJ and his friends, but all of the action stuff just seemed kind of meh.

I thought Far From Home was a perfectly serviceable episode of Marvel Cinematic Universe. Which means it was time and money well spent and rewarded my emotional investment in the MCU as a whole.

Did it work as a stand-alone film? Maybe not, but that's not how I watched it so I can't really say and I don't really care.

I mean, it was no Into the Spiderverse, Fellowship of the Ring, Iron Giant, or Kubo and the Two Strings. But not every film owes me that kind of experience and failing to reach that lofty bar is hardly a problem.

I really enjoyed FFH as a much smaller movie after all the progressively bigger Marvel movies, and it was very much a classic Peter Parker story as much as it was a Spider-Man story. I appreciated the fact it set a goal to tell a specific story and did a great job of just doing the story without getting progressively bigger and bigger. Also really liked Jake Gyllenhaal as Mysterio.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I really enjoyed FFH as a much smaller movie after all the progressively bigger Marvel movies, and it was very much a classic Peter Parker story as much as it was a Spider-Man story. I appreciated the fact it set a goal to tell a specific story and did a great job of just doing the story without getting progressively bigger and bigger. Also really liked Jake Gyllenhaal as Mysterio.

Agreed. Some dumb, dumb plot elements, but overall a quite enjoyable movie.

I felt like Far From Home suffered a bit if you're at all familiar with the comic books. If you are, you'll know going into it that Mysterio is a villain who uses illusion to trick people, and the bulk of the movie's runtime is spent leading up to a big reveal that... Mysterio is a villain who is using illusion to trick people. It's a reveal that works if you're not familiar with the characters, but if you are, you get to spend the film waiting for everyone else to catch up to what you already know. It's not especially satisfying, in that regard.

A good point of comparison would be how Iron Man 3 handles the Mandarin. The surprise reveal that Ben Kingsley's Mandarin is just an actor hired to play a scary terrorist works whether you're familiar with the Mandarin character or not. Similarly, the inversion of the role of the Kree and the Skrulls in Captain Marvel manages to be a surprise for comic book and movie fans alike.

Far From Home can't quite pull that off, which is a shame, especially after Homecoming played the Vulture so beautifully.

That's usually how I am with the "not as good" movies too, Vargen… and it's less that I disliked it and more that it just felt weak by Marvel's usual standards with regards to what are usually more solid execution. The only other time I really felt like a Marvel movie was dragging in its setup was Dr. Strange... and even that made narrative sense and actually worked as an execution of something because I realized I was becoming as frustrated as Strange was with his hands and the cutting off of his old life. Here though, it just felt wrong.

Part of that may have just been knowing what the "twist" was going to be, so I knew there would be a turn... part of it also could have just been my dislike of that particular subgenre in the teenage comedy with it being more dating focused. Ned and Betty were amusing for the first like 2 minutes of the joke... after that it was... painful.

EDIT: Surprise Clock who manages to basically sum up exactly how I was feeling with far better words than I was capable of finding while typing a response between support calls at work.

Why is nobody talking about Michael Keaton at the end of the Morbius trailer?! Did everyone stop watching the trailer until the end (as I first did)?

I imagine the unspoken back and forth between studios is something like this:

Sony: Woo hoo! We did it! Morbius is in the MCU!!!!

Marvel: No it's not.

Sony: Yes it is! Didn't you see what we did? We put Michael Keaton in the movie! All of our Spider-verse movies are now in the MCU! Yeah!!!

Marvel: No they're not. None of your sad attempts to link any of your poor excuses for movies will ever cross-over with the MCU. Thor will never be in your next Venom movie. The Guardians of the Galaxy will never be in "Morbius 2: Aunt May to the Rescue." At best, your movies exist in a crappy separate offshoot part of the MCU multi-verse that is not a part of the "prime" MCU characters.

Sony:

Marvel:

Sony: Woo hoo! Morbius is in the MCU!!!

Morbius looks stupid, but fun, except Jared Leto. Ugh.

I was a bit cool on Far From Home myself. It was fine, and Jake Gyllenhall was a delight, so I don't regret the watch, but it's ultimately a bit weightless for me. I watched it a bit late so it was in the middle of the Sony/Marvel spat so when I got to the end and it looked like it may be out of the MCU I was fine with it.