Marvel Media (This is the spoiler thread, Q-Stone - You're welcome)

Saw Endgame for the second time last night. It…wasn’t as fun the second time around. My favorite scenes still hit me (Thor mostly, with his mom, with the Guardians at the end), but knowing the story was just batsh*t overall took something away from me. Plus I'm more angry about the short shrift I feel Nat got this time. I think this’ll be one of the less rewatchable Marvel movies in the end.

I actually like it about as well the second time as the first, because you can see the setup for things like the Pepper telling Tony he can rest now, etc.

Going on a Disney cruise next week, I suspect I'll watch it at least once more there

We tried watching the first episode of this season's Agents of Shield. Holy moly it was bad!

So we started watching Cloak and Dagger. Four episodes in and... it's boring. It's not bad per se, it's just realllllllly taking its time. They're really slow-walking the origin story. The main characters have barely even spoken to each other yet!

We're giving it another episode or two before we move on...

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Hel.

I liked this season of Cloak and Dagger but they leaned on the mind plane stuff to hard. Right now it seems like they are having trouble writing for a person with Cloak's power set.

Finally got a chance to see Endgame.

Pros:
Taking out Thanos in 2019
Widow/Hawkeye stuff
Nebula standing up for herself
Thor as Lebowski
Cap: "Hail Hydra"
Falcon: "On your left"
Spidey/Tony stuff *sniff*
Captain Marvel
Allllll the heroes warping in was classic comic book fighting, only thing missing was The Watcher breaking his non-interference vow for the 3,476th time
Thor: "I KNEW it!"

Cons:
Not as much action as I was expecting, since they had to do so much talky talk to explain things.

Bottom Line:
All of the lols at nerds getting worked up about magical skeleton xylophones in a children's cartoon show.

If Thor simply put or dropped his hammer on Thanos is that game over?? I mean he wouldn’t be able to move it or himself.

He could likely use one of the Infinity Stones to move it or teleport it away. The power of the stones is far older and stronger than Mjolnir’s enchantment.

ruhk wrote:

He could likely use one of the Infinity Stones to move it or teleport it away. The power of the stones is far older and stronger than Mjolnir’s enchantment.

I mean sans stones.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

I liked this season of Cloak and Dagger but they leaned on the mind plane stuff to hard. Right now it seems like they are having trouble writing for a person with Cloak's power set.

My wife and I are big fans of Cloak and Dagger. All the characters are interesting and I appreciate that they didn’t immediately love interest the two main characters.

I really like the woman who plays the cop.

TheGameguru wrote:
ruhk wrote:

He could likely use one of the Infinity Stones to move it or teleport it away. The power of the stones is far older and stronger than Mjolnir’s enchantment.

I mean sans stones.

I would have said yes, except that stupid dual sword Thanks had apparently had the same enchants as the hammer and Cap's shield.

Reviews of Dark Phoenix are coming in, and, in what is an utterly shocking turn off events, they're mediocre. IGN gave it a 6.3/10, AV Club gave it a C.

Oof, considering AV Club gave the awful X-Men: Last Stand a C+.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

Oof, considering AV Club gave the awful X-Men: Last Stand a C+.

Funny thing is I got a T-Mobile / Atom promotion to see this movie for $4 and I thought, “Not quite cheap enough”.

Rotten Tomatoes currently has it at 20%.

The inherent problem is Dark Phoenix should not be a "movie", it should be an "Endgame". Jean Grey became Phoenix in X-Men #101, and died in #138. That means the story started in late 1976 and ended four years later, which helped it build stakes.

Dark Phoenix should be the movie that comes after ten connected, slowly-building X-Men movies, but without establishing the characters, it just turns into another spectacle.

That's kind of a problem with most superhero in movie format.

The "Age" of Ultron lasted a week? A few days?

In "The Dark Knight" the Joker terrorized the city for a week? Month?

AV Club:

The last attempt to adapt that multi-month opus to the screen was 2006’s much-maligned X-Men: The Last Stand, so perhaps the franchise deserved a mulligan. Yet the studio has entrusted this second try to… the exact same screenwriter, Simon Kinberg, who’s also stepped behind the camera in the absence of original series director Bryan Singer.

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Per essayist Patrick H Willems: "When something is called a 'saga,' that's a pretty good sign you shouldn't try to compress it into 2 hours."

Dark Phoenix has had a huge turnaround as the day has gone by; it's Rotten Tomatoes rating has jump around 30% from earlier.

It's now up to 22%. Has a 44 on Metacritic. I wasn't expecting this to be good, but I honestly didn't expect it to get slammed this badly.

My expectations took a dive when I read that it had been extensively shot in the eleventh hour, I feel like that's never a good sign. (Apparently their finale was practically identical to the Captain Marvel finale, and they did lots of rewriting and re-shooting to differentiate their plot).

I'll see it, but never expected much just from the trailers

Is Feige going to get to control the X-Men franchise? Because that would be good.

Top_Shelf wrote:

Is Feige going to get to control the X-Men franchise? Because that would be good.

Believe so. They canceled a bunch of stuff, but this one was already finished. I think they're even canceling the New Mutant one even though it's been ready for months now.

ranalin wrote:
Top_Shelf wrote:

Is Feige going to get to control the X-Men franchise? Because that would be good.

Believe so. They canceled a bunch of stuff, but this one was already finished. I think they're even canceling the New Mutant one even though it's been ready for months now.

Yeah, the odds are somewhere between zero and zero we'll ever see a theatrical release of that movie, which is fine by me. The New Mutants run in the comics was really great, and it doesn't need to get Dark Phoenixed and shoved into a terrible two-hour run time. They'll eventually re-edit New Mutants and release it on streaming with an entirely different name of some sort and then it'll quietly go away.

I think if we want to see good X-Men movies, we'll have to watch Deadpool movies.

Yonder wrote:

My expectations took a dive when I read that it had been extensively shot in the eleventh hour, I feel like that's never a good sign. (Apparently their finale was practically identical to the Captain Marvel finale, and they did lots of rewriting and re-shooting to differentiate their plot).

From what I've read, they re-did the final action set piece, because the original was too similar to another movie (Captain Marvel)? They replaced it with something involving a train (probably the train we see in the trailer). From the reviews I've checked, that final action set piece is amazing, but overall the movie isn't worth the cinema ticket.

Falcon's run as Cap doesn't last long...

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slazev wrote:
Yonder wrote:

My expectations took a dive when I read that it had been extensively shot in the eleventh hour, I feel like that's never a good sign. (Apparently their finale was practically identical to the Captain Marvel finale, and they did lots of rewriting and re-shooting to differentiate their plot).

From what I've read, they re-did the final action set piece, because the original was too similar to another movie (Captain Marvel)? They replaced it with something involving a train (probably the train we see in the trailer). From the reviews I've checked, that final action set piece is amazing, but overall the movie isn't worth the cinema ticket.

Not the final set piece, the final act. Their reshoot was as long as the original filming period, and they apparently used that to redo the last third of the movie. Jessica Chastain also complained that they apparently gave her very little direction on her character, then rewrote the character entirely for the reshoots, then apparently completely reshaped the character again in post-production. The whole film just sounds like a mess.

ranalin wrote:
Top_Shelf wrote:

Is Feige going to get to control the X-Men franchise? Because that would be good.

Believe so. They canceled a bunch of stuff, but this one was already finished. I think they're even canceling the New Mutant one even though it's been ready for months now.

It hasn't been ready. Reportedly, they're still waiting to do pickups and finalize effects shots. It's been delayed to April 2020 to allow time for all that, but it's not complete and in the can and ready to go at any moment.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
ranalin wrote:
Top_Shelf wrote:

Is Feige going to get to control the X-Men franchise? Because that would be good.

Believe so. They canceled a bunch of stuff, but this one was already finished. I think they're even canceling the New Mutant one even though it's been ready for months now.

It hasn't been ready. Reportedly, they're still waiting to do pickups and finalize effects shots. It's been delayed to April 2020 to allow time for all that, but it's not complete and in the can and ready to go at any moment.

It had a launch date of Apr and then Sept this year. If they still have that much to do it's most likely not going to get done.