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The more I think on it, the more annoyed I get that there was no funeral for Nathasha Romanoff. Not only did she sacrifice herself as Tony did, she had someone willing to take her place and she refused to let him. The ending focuses entirely on Tony why?

TheGameguru wrote:

I’m just assuming they Nano tech everything back together. The staff. The cube and a new Shield. Seriously all questions can be answered by nano tech. I mean a fully powered nearly indestructible suit of super armor that does just about everything comes out of almost nothing.

Nanotechnology solves everything.

Yeah, yeah, but it's one of those things where if I had some vague in-narrative explanation, it would make sense, but it's just dropped, like Carol finding Tony in space, or the "oh by the way the Hulk is now Banner let's discuss it at a pointless lunch scene". Give me something in the movie to tie that all up.

Also, my biggest pet peeve of the movie . . . right at the start, Tony and Nebula are playing table football. We're getting to see them bonding in that scene, and I figured that was going to be a plot thread they'd run with, show them together doing things, eventually have some dramatic moment regarding the later betrayal. But . . . that one scene was it. Why have that one scene? It's just perplexing, and it's literally the thing that annoys me most about the movie. Why bother?

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

I’m just assuming they Nano tech everything back together. The staff. The cube and a new Shield. Seriously all questions can be answered by nano tech. I mean a fully powered nearly indestructible suit of super armor that does just about everything comes out of almost nothing.

Nanotechnology solves everything.

Yeah, yeah, but it's one of those things where if I had some vague in-narrative explanation, it would make sense, but it's just dropped, like Carol finding Tony in space, or the "oh by the way the Hulk is now Banner let's discuss it at a pointless lunch scene". Give me something in the movie to tie that all up.

Also, my biggest pet peeve of the movie . . . right at the start, Tony and Nebula are playing table football. We're getting to see them bonding in that scene, and I figured that was going to be a plot thread they'd run with, show them together doing things, eventually have some dramatic moment regarding the later betrayal. But . . . that one scene was it. Why have that one scene? It's just perplexing, and it's literally the thing that annoys me most about the movie. Why bother?

I guess that scene for me served less as a bridge for the friendship as two different characters' arcs: Tony as someone who really believes he has overstepped and is about to lose everything. Nebula as someone who, shown even more kindness and patience, becomes the person who convinces past-Gamora to switch sides at the end.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

I’m just assuming they Nano tech everything back together. The staff. The cube and a new Shield. Seriously all questions can be answered by nano tech. I mean a fully powered nearly indestructible suit of super armor that does just about everything comes out of almost nothing.

Nanotechnology solves everything.

Yeah, yeah, but it's one of those things where if I had some vague in-narrative explanation, it would make sense, but it's just dropped, like Carol finding Tony in space, or the "oh by the way the Hulk is now Banner let's discuss it at a pointless lunch scene". Give me something in the movie to tie that all up.

Also, my biggest pet peeve of the movie . . . right at the start, Tony and Nebula are playing table football. We're getting to see them bonding in that scene, and I figured that was going to be a plot thread they'd run with, show them together doing things, eventually have some dramatic moment regarding the later betrayal. But . . . that one scene was it. Why have that one scene? It's just perplexing, and it's literally the thing that annoys me most about the movie. Why bother?

I thought it was just that they stuck out in the middle of space with all kinds of tech and of course Tony has taught Nebula a very stupid human game that has nothing to do with tech or space. Nothing more than that.

It was Nebula spending time with people that didn't actively try to kill her or she them. Re-learning emotions and trust without the threat of death over her head. It's part of why she was very quick to pull the trigger on her past-self. I thought it was a good little bit of subtle character work.

Disney made some Marvel movie announcements today related to the X-Men projects they acquired from Fox. Gambit has been canned completely, and The New Mutants has been delayed from August of this year to April of next year. I have no idea if that delay is just for scheduling purposes, if reshoots are planned, or what. None of this has anything to do with the MCU, so far as anyone knows.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

The more I think on it, the more annoyed I get that there was no funeral for Nathasha Romanoff. Not only did she sacrifice herself as Tony did, she had someone willing to take her place and she refused to let him. The ending focuses entirely on Tony why?

Gah, that's a really super good point. Now I'm kinda mad.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

The more I think on it, the more annoyed I get that there was no funeral for Nathasha Romanoff. Not only did she sacrifice herself as Tony did, she had someone willing to take her place and she refused to let him. The ending focuses entirely on Tony why?

Because she's an icky girl, duh.

I just saw an article that the Russo's said Nova is a James Gunn thing.
Richard Ryder in GotG3 confirmed!

Guardians of the Galaxy 3: The Space Adventures of Fat Thor!

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Iron Man gets to say 'I am Iron Man' one more time and yadda yadda.

So, there have been some interesting reveals about that.

Mantid wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Iron Man gets to say 'I am Iron Man' one more time and yadda yadda.

So, there have been some interesting reveals about that.

Chills. Goosebumps. Nerd tears.

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Uh... I thought the line was lame? Maybe that colors my perception of the fact that it was shot on a sound stage by some other sound stage.

I'mma get back to this:

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That comic is great.

Eh, like so many other things, it's taken on a life of its own that's sort of at cross-purposes with its original intent. The intent of the comic is as an exhortation against being thoughtlessly mocking of other people's fun, but I see it used all too often as a way to silence even the most thoughtful criticism of someone's sacred cow.

Like, by the same token that someone's "allowed" to get chills when RDJ reprises a famous line, you're also "allowed" to find it kind of pandering and lame. The one doesn't negate the other.

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hbi2k wrote:

Eh, like so many other things, it's taken on a life of its own that's sort of at cross-purposes with its original intent. The intent of the comic is as an exhortation against being thoughtlessly mocking of other people's fun, but I see it used all too often as a way to silence even the most thoughtful criticism of someone's sacred cow.

Like, by the same token that someone's "allowed" to get chills when RDJ reprises a famous line, you're also "allowed" to find it kind of pandering and lame. The one doesn't negate the other.

Ok. You're not wrong. But I've been down on the last 2 avengers movies and I don't really want to yuck anyone's yum so I'm telling myself to f*ck off first. Which is also allowed =)

That comic IS great. Also this one (and feel free to apply it to any of my posts in the last 2 weeks. Or ever. About anything).

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Now if you'll excuse me, I hear the ENTIRE detective pikachu movie was leaked so that's the rest of my night.

oilypenguin wrote:

Now if you'll excuse me, I hear the ENTIRE detective pikachu movie was leaked so that's the rest of my night.

Be sure to wait for the after-credits scene!

oilypenguin wrote:

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I wanna make a joke about "maybe the halo is out of frame, but where did the harp go?" but I feel like any such joke might support a position in these arguments that I do not entirely agree with.

I don't know, I'm here for it, CP. I'm here for it.

I watched Endgame again tonight. Still love it.

Finally watched the new Spider Man trailer. I love every bit of it.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

The more I think on it, the more annoyed I get that there was no funeral for Nathasha Romanoff. Not only did she sacrifice herself as Tony did, she had someone willing to take her place and she refused to let him. The ending focuses entirely on Tony why?

There was a funeral for Nat. It was by the lake after the rest if them came back from their time trips. It was a different sort of funeral because she was a different sort of person and the other characters were in a very different place than they were at the end of the film. But she got 3+ minutes of on-screen mourning in the middle of a blockbuster action movie. Considering that a mid-movie funeral usually consists of a 4-second shot of the survivors standing silently in the rain, I'd say she got quite the sendoff.

As for why the ending focuses on Tony, that would be because this whole MCU mess started with Tony.

And even at Tony's funeral at the end Nat was not unremembered.

Black Widow has absolutely not gotten the credit and respect she deserves over the course of the MCU. But I think Endgame was a good step towards rectifying that. If this was it then yes, it's still too little. But Black Widow finally has her own movie coming out, and I'm going to hold off condemning it until after I see that.

Stele wrote:

Finally watched the new Spider Man trailer. I love every bit of it.

Me as well.

I am very interested to see if they are going to really embrace the multi-verse. It does allow them to bring in properties that haven't shown up yet without origin stories which would be great. No need to see the Fantastic 4 go to space and get their powers just have them show up. No need for a convoluted explanation of why no mutants have been seen before, just say they come from a different earth. Easy.

And they pulled off the Black Panther and Spider-Man side origins in Civil War pretty well. Could certainly do that with F4 or others.

Spider-Man trailer broke the record for views for a movie trailer in 24 hours, with 130 million.

I'll bring up with what I discussed with my wife.
Yes, the trailer looks awesome and where the MCU might be going is exciting.
Except, it's Mysterio. The entire trailer could be a fake out. Maybe Fury isn't really even in the movie; it's just Mysterio in blackface (not cool Gyllenhaal).

lunchbox12682 wrote:

I'll bring up with what I discussed with my wife.
Yes, the trailer looks awesome and where the MCU might be going is exciting.
Except, it's Mysterio. The entire trailer could be a fake out. Maybe Fury isn't really even in the movie; it's just Mysterio in blackface (not cool Gyllenhaal).

In the comics he starts out bugging Spider-man to be a good guy and it goes downhill from there till he's a villain.

ranalin wrote:
lunchbox12682 wrote:

I'll bring up with what I discussed with my wife.
Yes, the trailer looks awesome and where the MCU might be going is exciting.
Except, it's Mysterio. The entire trailer could be a fake out. Maybe Fury isn't really even in the movie; it's just Mysterio in blackface (not cool Gyllenhaal).

In the comics he starts out bugging Spider-man to be a good guy and it goes downhill from there till he's a villain.

Fair enough. At this point, my main Mysterio memory is the

Spoiler:

Guardian Devil

storyline.

I'm glad I have no idea who Mysterio is. I feel it would be detrimental to watching the movie.

All I know was from the 90s Fox cartoon, and I think he was only in 2 episodes.