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Stele wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

Deep thoughts about the aftermath:

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I have begun to realize how much worse the Avengers have made everything (at least for Earth). All of a sudden they add back in 3.5 billion people to the population, not counting the inevitable population boom that would have occurred after the first snap. There would have been is at least half the food production for five years and infrastructure would have deteriorated where it could not support that number of people. That's not even addressing the social issues of people who had moved on with new spouses or the issues of new property ownership. Huge amounts of unemployment, starvation, and social strife would most likely result.

I didn't even get that far. Just Peter Parker's scene rubbed me the wrong way.

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Seriously did his entire school get dusted? After 5 years no one would go back to high school. They should have just had a scene with him and Ned back at his apartment or something.

I guess at least all the main Spider-Man characters got dusted, assuming Far From Home isn't pre Infinity War.

Yeah that made no sense to me either.

Nevin73 wrote:

Deep thoughts about the aftermath:

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I have begun to realize how much worse the Avengers have made everything (at least for Earth). All of a sudden they add back in 3.5 billion people to the population, not counting the inevitable population boom that would have occurred after the first snap. There would have been is at least half the food production for five years and infrastructure would have deteriorated where it could not support that number of people. That's not even addressing the social issues of people who had moved on with new spouses or the issues of new property ownership. Huge amounts of unemployment, starvation, and social strife would most likely result.

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Well, infrastructure and social change aside, since most food is made from living things there should be plenty available all of a sudden so at least pure supply isn't an issue. Not that they thought about it that hard.

The movie was awesome and I loved it. My only gripe is (along those same lines)

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that they went out of their way to emphasize how you can't just kill thanos at the wrong moment in the time stream or remove items from the past and then they proceed to do all of those things with no further commentary or consequences.

Jolly Bill wrote:

The movie was awesome and I loved it. My only gripe is (along those same lines)

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that they went out of their way to emphasize how you can't just kill thanos at the wrong moment in the time stream or remove items from the past and then they proceed to do all of those things with no further commentary or consequences.

Well the only thing they

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permanently removed from the past was Gamora. And possibly Loki.

And technically Thanos and Nebula are the ones that broke the rules, save the Loki part

The stones all got put back by Cap.

Stele wrote:
Jolly Bill wrote:

The movie was awesome and I loved it. My only gripe is (along those same lines)

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that they went out of their way to emphasize how you can't just kill thanos at the wrong moment in the time stream or remove items from the past and then they proceed to do all of those things with no further commentary or consequences.

Well the only thing they

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permanently removed from the past was Gamora. And possibly Loki.

And technically Thanos and Nebula are the ones that broke the rules, save the Loki part

The stones all got put back by Cap.

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Ah, and I guess Cap put back mjolnir. And they've left it open that Tony didn't kill Thanos as much as sent him back into the past with no memory, just as Thanos was talking about.

Of course, who knows what's up with Loki in that other timeline. If anyone can cross dimensional boundaries, it's Loki.

Follow up, considering how many people did show up in the movie even for a second, there were some noticeable absences.
Hemdill
Vision
Sif
Ed Norton
Luis, who should have been a stinger.
Odin
Sharon Carter, but given Cap's happy ending that was best left alone.

Amazing movie - it’s swapped places with Dark Knight as my all time favorite superhero movies.

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I did have some quibbles like all the Thor fat jokes and what happened to Nat, but otherwise it was amazing.

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Well, sh*t. Cap made out with his granddaughter. Grand-niece?

oilypenguin wrote:
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Well, sh*t. Cap made out with his granddaughter. Grand-niece?

Much like the Skywalker's, it was unintentional semi-incest.

For the food thing, they showed Wakanda still thriving. If imagine they could Shuri some solution.

What she should have had were lines in the movie.

Yeah I guess this was filmed before Black Panther released. Shuri became everyone's favorite then.

So glad I went opening weekend. Raucous cheers for two particular moments.

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Cap picking up the hammer.

The grand heroes entrance.

And audible tears and sniffles in the theater for

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Natasha

Rotten Tomatoes did a survey to determine who is the favorite Avenger. People could vote for more than 1 character, so take it with a grain of salt. I'm surprised that Ant-Man landed at #7 yet Falcon soared to near the bottom at #15 out of 17. He must not have had enough lines.

1 Iron Man – 53%
1 Captain America – 53%
3 Thor – 50%
4 Spider-Man – 39%
5 Doctor Strange – 30%
6 Black Panther – 29%
7 Ant-Man – 29%
8 Captain Marvel – 25%
9 Hulk – 23%
10 Black Widow – 18%
11 Hawkeye – 13%
12 Scarlet Witch – 13%
13 Vision – 10%
14 Bucky Barnes – 9%
15 Falcon – 7%
16 Quicksilver – 6%
17 War Machine – 6%

I really loved Wanda’s bad ass moment. She almost got the job done herself.

jdzappa wrote:

Amazing movie - it’s swapped places with Dark Knight as my all time favorite superhero movies.

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I did have some quibbles like all the Thor fat jokes and what happened to Nat, but otherwise it was amazing.

Yeah, the Thor fat jokes didn't work for me, especially since Hemsworth's prosthetic stomach was completely unconvincing. What was your quibble with Nat?

(All y'all using spoiler tags in the spoiler thread confuse the sh*t outta me.)

TheGameguru wrote:

I really loved Wanda’s bad ass moment. She almost got the job done herself.

That was a standout moment for sure. A female coworker said she was relieved that Captain Marvel, as potent as she is, didn't single handedly destroy Thanos, because it would have rendered most of the previous movies moot.

Well as you pointed out, no one used the non-spoiler thread. Last post there 363 days ago.

Running Man wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

I really loved Wanda’s bad ass moment. She almost got the job done herself.

That was a standout moment for sure. A female coworker said she was relieved that Captain Marvel, as potent as she is, didn't single handedly destroy Thanos, because it would have rendered most of the previous movies moot.

At the same time, it was nice that they showed that Carol was more powerful than Thanos. The producers have said she's the most powerful character in the MCU, and they meant it.

Stele wrote:

Well as you pointed out, no one used the non-spoiler thread. Last post there 363 days ago.

[shrug]

There are warnings that this is the spoiler thread in the title, the OP, and in a recent post. If anyone gets spoiled by something when they don't want to be, it's their own damn fault.

Was anyone else bugged that Thanos' dual blade thing also had auto return magic?
The spinning deflector thing is also dumb to me.

lunchbox12682 wrote:

Was anyone else bugged that Thanos' dual blade thing also had auto return magic?
The spinning deflector thing is also dumb to me.

Not really, it is alien weapon we know nothing about, it could have literally been crafted by gods. or god like creatures. It makes as much sense as thor's hammer.

Baron Of Hell wrote:
lunchbox12682 wrote:

Was anyone else bugged that Thanos' dual blade thing also had auto return magic?
The spinning deflector thing is also dumb to me.

Not really, it is alien weapon we know nothing about, it could have literally been crafted by gods. or god like creatures. It makes as much sense as thor's hammer.

True, the giant dwarf could have made it.

Nevin73 wrote:

So I'm guessing the Black Widow movie will be a prequel?

They've said as much...

We don't need the spoiler tags folks!

jdzappa wrote:

it’s swapped places with Dark Knight as my all time favorite superhero movies.

Really. Well to each his own. I am not even that big a fan of Dark Knight, but it is an order of magnitude better then Avengers: Endgame IMO.

BadKen wrote:

One thing that put a big grin on my face was WOMAN SQUAD assembling at a critical point in the big battle!

Okay, I'll start off by saying that I really enjoyed the movie. But having the "woman squad assemble" tableau is basically a bone thrown at us. I know it's hard to rewrite what's already been done, but aside from Natasha, who do we have at the core, leading the charge in the movie? Captain America, Stark, Thor (more or less), Hulk, Ant-Man,.... all dudes. It's even worse that Okoye barely gets any lines (and I was really pumped to have her get a big role, especially with her being on the poster and all), Shuri gets none at all (oh, and I'm fairly certain filming of Black Panther was prior to Endgame). Not really that much of a shining moment for me.

Ultimately, I'm glad though. Cap' lived, and that was something I really wanted. Not only did he survive the Endgame, he got an entire life with Peggy Carter, and I was just so thrilled. And of course he was deemed worthy to wield Mjolnir, there was never a doubt in my mind he wasn't.
Wasn't all that attached to Natasha, and Stark is a bit too much of a cocky dude to my tastes, so I was fine with seeing them bite the dust.
The Thor running joke was not great. Not great at all. But it did give us one of my favorite lines: “Everyone fails at who they are supposed to be,” Frigga tells him. “The measure of a person, a hero, is how they succeed at being who they are.”

Eleima wrote:

Okay, I'll start off by saying that I really enjoyed the movie. But having the "woman squad assemble" tableau is basically a bone thrown at us. I know it's hard to rewrite what's already been done, but aside from Natasha, who do we have at the core, leading the charge in the movie? Captain America, Stark, Thor (more or less), Hulk, Ant-Man,.... all dudes. It's even worse that Okoye barely gets any lines (and I was really pumped to have her get a big role, especially with her being on the poster and all), Shuri gets none at all (oh, and I'm fairly certain filming of Black Panther was prior to Endgame). Not really that much of a shining moment for me.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who rolled my eyes. It felt like blatant box-checking to me. You could have cut that entire sequence out of the movie and it would have made no difference.

Eleima wrote:

Okay, I'll start off by saying that I really enjoyed the movie. But having the "woman squad assemble" tableau is basically a bone thrown at us.

I read that moment differently. Aside from Pepper and Gamora, everyone in that charge is a prominent part of the next wave of Marvel heroes.

You're right that it's hard to undo what's been done (and Endgame was all about what's already been done) but that charge felt like a statement about what the new Avengers will look like.

That's part of why I was so happy to see Sam take up the shield instead of Bucky. (And why I'm sad to see that Thor is with the Guardians now and Valkyrie has been sidelined. The last thing the Guardians movies need is more dude humor, and that's pretty much Thor's character now. But the Guardians have always been the sleazy sexist underbelly of the MCU, so I'm not surprised, either.)

I'm living that spidey life.

The girl squad moment was a bit annoying because we didn't get to see them actually do much. Captain Marvel almost immediately flies ahead alone. I would have loved to have seen more cohesion with them. Heck, I don't think Shuri and Mantis did anything on screen the whole battle.

Shari shot her arm cannons and had no real armor.
I really had an issue with some of the power imbalances in the final battle. Hey, Capt Nuclear Glowstick needs help. I know let's have unpowered mortals help! Wanda and Valk were the only two really anywhere in Carol's ballpark.

But whatever, still to excited to care.