Marvel Media (This is the spoiler thread, Q-Stone - You're welcome)

oilypenguin wrote:

Spider-verse not nominated for best picture. The Oscars are a sham.*

*the black panther nom is legit tho.

That's sad, but it's a pretty crowded field this year, even with eight movies nominated. I don't know which one I'd drop for Spider-verse, except maybe A Star is Born, but I didn't watch that, so I can't really say. They need a separate category for remakes.

2018 was a pretty good year for great movies.

I'm also kind of bummed that Ryan Coogler didn't get a director nomination, but that is also a crowded field of outstanding directors this year.

I really hope Alfonso Cuaron takes home all the statues. Roma is just outstanding in every respect. It's on Netflix, btw, if you haven't seen it!

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
farley3k wrote:

Why Magneto Can Never Be In the MCU

Not all metal is magnetic.

Magneto is often referred to as a master of metal... comic ambiguity ftw!

Master of magnetism. I can't say I've heard him called master of metal (there's also a different character called Metal Master). Uru (Thor's hammer), adamantium (Wolverine's skeleton), and Iron Man's suit are all historically magnetic enough for Magneto to affect. Tony has built several non-magnetic suits for fighting Magneto with though. Cap's shield is usually magnetic too, depending on its composition. It's normally a Vibranium/steel alloy with the steel imparting magnetic properties. Pure vibranium isn't magnetic at all.

Considering that Magneto is strong enough to move entire bridges and asteroids and stuff, shouldn't he be able to affect pretty much anything via diamagnetism? If magnets can levitate a frog then Magneto should be able to just toss people around without any metal whatsoever.

Also I want a comic where Magneto uses his powers to throw frogs at Professor X.

He can stop people because of the iron in their bloodstream.
Don't put too much thought into the real world physics.

Magneto has had a spotty history with Thor’s Hammer, depending upon who’s writing. Sometimes he can partially control it, other times he can’t.

The real issue though is that despite his powers, the movie Magneto is still basically just a guy. He’s not super durable or anything. Try controlling metal with your head vaporized by lightning or a repulsor blast.

The Hulk also would have still stopped Magneto despite his being a Holocaust survivor. So, y'know, there were a couple of unrealistic elements in the animation.

I don't know why people fighting Magneto don't use stainless steel. After all, magnets don't stick to my fridge.

Magneto has regularly waffled back and forth between "guy who can affect ferrous metals" and "guy who can control two of the four fundamental forces of the universe" in strong and weak electromagnetic force. Everyone has big dips and rises in their capabilities in comics, but I'd have to think Magneto's got more variation than most.

Like all characters in American comics, his powers really depend on who is writing him.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Magneto has regularly waffled back and forth between "guy who can affect ferrous metals" and "guy who can control two of the four fundamental forces of the universe" in strong and weak electromagnetic force. Everyone has big dips and rises in their capabilities in comics, but I'd have to think Magneto's got more variation than most.

Superman always varies too. Sometimes he can move a moon, and other times he struggles to catch a falling plane.

Superman usually has just a teensy bit more strength than is necessary to accomplish his task. If I ever had to kill Superman I would arrange a charity event at a children's hospital where he arrived to arm wrestle sick kids. Then while his body is set at "almost healthy six-year-old" strength levels come up behind him and snap his neck before he can adjust.

The only downside to this plan is that after traumatizing all the children I'm pretty sure that even the super villains would be after me.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Magneto has regularly waffled back and forth between "guy who can affect ferrous metals" and "guy who can control two of the four fundamental forces of the universe" in strong and weak electromagnetic force. Everyone has big dips and rises in their capabilities in comics, but I'd have to think Magneto's got more variation than most.

I don't think Stan Lee or Jack Kirby knew all that much about magnetism when they decided that was his power set.

Yonder wrote:

Superman usually has just a teensy bit more strength than is necessary to accomplish his task. If I ever had to kill Superman I would arrange a charity event at a children's hospital where he arrived to arm wrestle sick kids. Then while his body is set at "almost healthy six-year-old" strength levels come up behind him and snap his neck before he can adjust.

The only downside to this plan is that after traumatizing all the children I'm pretty sure that even the super villains would be after me.

That's an incredible plan.

ruhk wrote:

Magneto has had a spotty history with Thor’s Hammer, depending upon who’s writing. Sometimes he can partially control it, other times he can’t.

The real issue though is that despite his powers, the movie Magneto is still basically just a guy. He’s not super durable or anything. Try controlling metal with your head vaporized by lightning or a repulsor blast.

Electric and magnet fields are interrelated. Magneto would reasonably be able to manipulate a bolt of lightning with his magnetic fields.

That would be pretty lethal power: the ability to rearrange/manipulate all the electrical impulses in a person's body. (or group of people...)

It's why Iceman is an Omega level mutant. In theory, he has control over all heat transfer.

Stengah wrote:

I don't think Stan Lee or Jack Kirby knew all that much about magnetism when they decided that was his power set.

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And Cable has near-Phoenix like TK power, but 99% of it is focused on keeping himself alive.

You're all reminding me of one of my favorite things from old school Marvel.

It was back during Secret Wars (the first one, ugh, I hate that I have say that).

The Beyonder entered Molecule Man's mind and basically unblocked a mental block that was preventing him from controlling all matter. I thought that was such a cool concept as a kid. The idea that someone could have almost limitless power except they were mentally blocked from accessing it all.

The techno-organic virus has been notably absent from any Marvel movies or shows, despite being a long-term plot point in Marvel comics. Also Sir-Not-Appearing-In-This-Film: the Legacy Virus which killed a number of characters such as Colossus's sister.

Magik? She was one of the most fun characters in Marvel Heroes.

Yeah, Colossus is very well-known, his sister not so much.

DSGamer wrote:

You're all reminding me of one of my favorite things from old school Marvel.

It was back during Secret Wars (the first one, ugh, I hate that I have say that).

The Beyonder entered Molecule Man's mind and basically unblocked a mental block that was preventing him from controlling all matter. I thought that was such a cool concept as a kid. The idea that someone could have almost limitless power except they were mentally blocked from accessing it all.

That reminds me of my idea for a super hero that had incredibly strong telekinetic powers, but that they were based off of the hero truly believing and internalizing that they could produce the effect they were trying for. The Hero would wear a mask with Tilt Shift lenses to help convince their subconscious that they were just crushing/lifting toys and models rather than cars and planes, and they listened to energetic empowering music on their headphones to keep themselves pumped up.

Yonder wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

You're all reminding me of one of my favorite things from old school Marvel.

It was back during Secret Wars (the first one, ugh, I hate that I have say that).

The Beyonder entered Molecule Man's mind and basically unblocked a mental block that was preventing him from controlling all matter. I thought that was such a cool concept as a kid. The idea that someone could have almost limitless power except they were mentally blocked from accessing it all.

That reminds me of my idea for a super hero that had incredibly strong telekinetic powers, but that they were based off of the hero truly believing and internalizing that they could produce the effect they were trying for. The Hero would wear a mask with Tilt Shift lenses to help convince their subconscious that they were just crushing/lifting toys and models rather than cars and planes, and they listened to energetic empowering music on their headphones to keep themselves pumped up.

So kind of like the Invisible Boy in Mystery Men?

lunchbox12682 wrote:
Yonder wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

You're all reminding me of one of my favorite things from old school Marvel.

It was back during Secret Wars (the first one, ugh, I hate that I have say that).

The Beyonder entered Molecule Man's mind and basically unblocked a mental block that was preventing him from controlling all matter. I thought that was such a cool concept as a kid. The idea that someone could have almost limitless power except they were mentally blocked from accessing it all.

That reminds me of my idea for a super hero that had incredibly strong telekinetic powers, but that they were based off of the hero truly believing and internalizing that they could produce the effect they were trying for. The Hero would wear a mask with Tilt Shift lenses to help convince their subconscious that they were just crushing/lifting toys and models rather than cars and planes, and they listened to energetic empowering music on their headphones to keep themselves pumped up.

So kind of like the Invisible Boy in Mystery Men?

Or a lot like the Incredible Turtle in Wild Cards - he's a superpowerful teke who only believes he can use his powers when he's wearing his 'shell'

Punisher S2. I finished it.

So like S1, I'm surprised how much I liked some parts of S2. That said...

Spoiler:

f*ck this f*cking series. So Billy sucked in S2. Like... completely. The character was terrible. The preacher guy, while seeming like a throw-away Punisher villain written by Warren Ellis (I will confirm that after I post this), was... fine? I liked that sub-plot more. And as much as I like Madani, Billy suuuuuuuuucks so much that everything is tainted by association. And I liked him in the first season.

But the end, the VERY end? Frank sets up and then murders a bunch of gang members? AND THEN IT SAYS 'IN LOVING MEMORY OF STAN LEE?'

f*ck you. f*ck this series. f*ck everyone associated with that decision. Yeah, real heroic slaughtering a bunch of kids. GJ Netflix.

Put a bullet in the series.

oilypenguin wrote:

Punisher S2. I finished it.

So like S1, I'm surprised how much I liked some parts of S2. That said...

Spoiler:

But the end, the VERY end? Frank sets up and then murders a bunch of gang members? AND THEN IT SAYS 'IN LOVING MEMORY OF STAN LEE?'

f*ck you. f*ck this series. f*ck everyone associated with that decision. Yeah, real heroic slaughtering a bunch of kids. GJ Netflix.

Put a bullet in the series.

Spoiler:

First we know the series is done.

Second that last scene was a very faithful reproduction of the #1 War Zone comic. Definitely a fitting tribute to Stan Lee from a Punisher show.

Weird. I thought that S2 of The Punisher is just below JJ (S1) and Luke Cage (1st half of season 1) and Daredevil (season 2 episodes with The Punisher) as being the best Marvel TV shows on Netflix.

Tanglebones wrote:
lunchbox12682 wrote:
Yonder wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

You're all reminding me of one of my favorite things from old school Marvel.

It was back during Secret Wars (the first one, ugh, I hate that I have say that).

The Beyonder entered Molecule Man's mind and basically unblocked a mental block that was preventing him from controlling all matter. I thought that was such a cool concept as a kid. The idea that someone could have almost limitless power except they were mentally blocked from accessing it all.

That reminds me of my idea for a super hero that had incredibly strong telekinetic powers, but that they were based off of the hero truly believing and internalizing that they could produce the effect they were trying for. The Hero would wear a mask with Tilt Shift lenses to help convince their subconscious that they were just crushing/lifting toys and models rather than cars and planes, and they listened to energetic empowering music on their headphones to keep themselves pumped up.

So kind of like the Invisible Boy in Mystery Men?

Or a lot like the Incredible Turtle in Wild Cards - he's a superpowerful teke who only believes he can use his powers when he's wearing his 'shell'

The Turtle is one of the best heroes ever.

NathanialG wrote:

The Turtle is one of the best heroes ever.

Really?

Spoiler:

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I will see myself out...