Marvel Media (Spoiler Thread)

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

Re: Infinity Gauntlet pic... where the heck is Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock (should be in the "Cosmic Guardians" section). Probably a rights issue, but Seriously!?! Imo they were the primary players.

Like MilkmanDanimal said, Silver Surfer is tied up in rights issues. As to Adam Warlock, he hasn't been introduced in the MCU yet. That poster shows only characters who have been announced for an MCU show or movie and/or have appeared in one.

Aren't the Infinity War movies still a couple years out? It wouldn't surprise me if they actually did get back rights to the FF characters by then, considering they got permission for Spider Man and all...

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

Re: Infinity Gauntlet pic... where the heck is Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock (should be in the "Cosmic Guardians" section). Probably a rights issue, but Seriously!?! Imo they were the primary players.

Silver Surfer is part of the FF universe and therefore over at Fox, and Adam Warlock . . . well, how would you introduce him without confusing the heck out of the average movie goer?

Yeah, a hero who was living in the pocket dimension inside of one of the gems (and one that hasn't been introduced yet) but has all-encompassing knowledge of the gems and the gauntlet would be very weird... not to mention would probably feel like even more of a Dues Ex Machina than it already kind of was in the comics.

Demyx wrote:

Aren't the Infinity War movies still a couple years out? It wouldn't surprise me if they actually did get back rights to the FF characters by then, considering they got permission for Spider Man and all...

I wouldn't be surprised if the next FF movie tanks and anything Spider-Man related is a hit, Fox will knock on Marvel's door hat in hand.

Demosthenes wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

A new poster for Age of Ultron was released and io9 spotted a couple interesting details in the credits...

Spoiler:

Hayley Atwell's in it and it's borrowing music from Danny Elfman...who composed the score for the first two Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies.

Interesting that another of the new characters is back up in the sky with the rest of the robots...

Another interesting thing from the credits

Spoiler:

1. Anthony Mackie - Falcon 2. Idris Elba - Heimdall.

I thought Adam Warlock's little chrysalis thingie was in Guardians in the Collector's collection. That'd be a toe hold to working him in, at least.

Although by that token they'll also need to explain the Gauntlet that was in Asgard.

Warlock's cocoon was in Guardians, so he is a possibility.

I believed that Adam Warlock would get introduced in a Guardians sequel. At first, I thought they might make him Star Lord's father, but more rational thoughts (not mine ;p) lead me to suspect Eros*, Thanos' (Thanos's?) brother. Eros was much more of a lothario vs Warlock's "monk-y-ness", and it can add a little "family dynamic" to the story.

*(wasn't he? It has been a long time... why do I keep thinking Starfox, or something... they're different, aren't they?)

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

I believed that Adam Warlock would get introduced in a Guardians sequel. At first, I thought they might make him Star Lord's father, but more rational thoughts (not mine ;p) lead me to suspect Eros*, Thanos' (Thanos's?) brother. Eros was much more of a lothario vs Warlock's "monk-y-ness", and it can add a little "family dynamic" to the story.

*(wasn't he? It has been a long time... why do I keep thinking Starfox, or something... they're different, aren't they?)

According to wikipedia Eros and Starfox are the same person

I'm curious just how much Marve's long game has played in casting and how far back it goes. Did they cast Paul Bettany, who, as a very skilled actor, was somewhat wasted as Jarvis with an eye for him to play Vision down the road? Or was it just fortunate casting or killing two birds with one stone?

Nevin73 wrote:

I'm curious just how much Marve's long game has played in casting and how far back it goes. Did they cast Paul Bettany, who, as a very skilled actor, was somewhat wasted as Jarvis with an eye for him to play Vision down the road? Or was it just fortunate casting or killing two birds with one stone?

At this time last year, I would have suggested the latter, but seeing just how much they've had planned out for the next couple of years, I can't help but wonder if there wasn't SOME consideration earlier that they needed someone very skilled for Jarvis just in case.

muttonchop wrote:
Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

I believed that Adam Warlock would get introduced in a Guardians sequel. At first, I thought they might make him Star Lord's father, but more rational thoughts (not mine ;p) lead me to suspect Eros*, Thanos' (Thanos's?) brother. Eros was much more of a lothario vs Warlock's "monk-y-ness", and it can add a little "family dynamic" to the story.

*(wasn't he? It has been a long time... why do I keep thinking Starfox, or something... they're different, aren't they?)

According to wikipedia Eros and Starfox are the same person

Aha! Thought I might have been going crazy(-er).

farley3k wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

A new poster for Age of Ultron was released and io9 spotted a couple interesting details in the credits...

Spoiler:

Hayley Atwell's in it and it's borrowing music from Danny Elfman...who composed the score for the first two Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies.

Interesting that another of the new characters is back up in the sky with the rest of the robots...

Another interesting thing from the credits

Spoiler:

1. Anthony Mackie - Falcon 2. Idris Elba - Heimdall.

I thought the first one was confirmed already.

Now that someone mentioned the poster might be 'shopped, I can't see it as anything but. Would RDJ really be placed second to Captain America? Has Chris Evan's become more popular as an actor, or Captain America as character?

IMHO, Neither RDJ nor Iron Man play second fiddle to anyone in the MCU right now.

I don't think Paul Bettany was wasted as Jarvis. Iron Man 1 had a great rapport between Jarvis and Stark. He was a full character, albeit body-less.

You could argue Vision was considered from the very beginning, but it wouldn't be the only justification. Bettany helped RDJ play off his humor against someone other than Don Cheadel and Gwen Paltrow in the first movie.

Also, it's "Thanos' "

Hobbes2099 wrote:

Now that someone mentioned the poster might be 'shopped, I can't see it as anything but.

By 'shopped do you mean that it was made with Photoshop or that it's not a real poster for the movie? It was pretty obviously made with Photoshop (and badly done), but alas, it's not a fake.

Hobbes2099 wrote:

Also, it's "Thanos' "

Strunk and White disagree: http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.h...

(In the MCU, my mutant power would be grammar pedantry.)

Demyx wrote:
Hobbes2099 wrote:

Also, it's "Thanos' "

Strunk and White disagree: http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.h...

(In the MCU, my mutant power would be grammar pedantry.)

+1

As a fellow Pedantically-Powered superhero, my battle cry is, "well, actually.."

I don't care what happens as long as Thanos is driving the Thanoscopter.

IMAGE(http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s149/MilkmanDanimal/thanoscopter.jpg)

It's worth noting that Vision has been hinted at before. Check the sweeping shot of the Stark Expo in the original Captain America movie.

IMAGE(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/the-avengers-2-movie/thumb/e/e4/Human-torch-1.jpg/468px-Human-torch-1.jpg)

Demosthenes wrote:

It's worth noting that Vision has been hinted at before. Check the sweeping shot of the Stark Expo in the original Captain America movie.

IMAGE(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/the-avengers-2-movie/thumb/e/e4/Human-torch-1.jpg/468px-Human-torch-1.jpg)

That's the original Human Torch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_T...(android)

Toro!

muttonchop wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:

It's worth noting that Vision has been hinted at before. Check the sweeping shot of the Stark Expo in the original Captain America movie.

IMAGE(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/mediawiki/apis.ign.com/the-avengers-2-movie/thumb/e/e4/Human-torch-1.jpg/468px-Human-torch-1.jpg)

That's the original Human Torch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_T...(android)

True but... according to the Marvel wiki, the Human Torch android was turned into Vision by Ultron.

Marvel Wiki wrote:

The metal monstrosity called Ultron constructed by size-changing scientist Henry Pym himself, Ultron inadvertently gained sentience and rebelled against the Avengers' resident roboticist.

After six months of failure Ultron kidnapped the original Human Torch's original inventor, Professor Phineas T. Horton. He deciding to create his own android using the original, android Human Torch of the 1940's (actually a divergent Human Torch created by Immortus for his own machinations) to serve as a vehicle of vengeance against the Avengers. Ultron has Professor Horton change the android's face and color it red. He also has Professor Horton alter the Horton Cells giving his creation density shifting powers. When Vision is "birthed" Ultron discovers Professor Horton didn't destroy his memory as the Torch. Ultron killled Professor Horton for betraying him and the "Torch" sought vengeance. Ultron defeated him and endowed Vision's neural processors with the brain patterns of the ionically charged costumed champion called Wonder Man implanting a control crystal to keep him in check.

EDIT: Ok, apparently the URL tags either don't like underscores or parentheticals in URLs so... http://marvel.wikia.com/Vision_(Earth-616)

Oh neat, I didn't know about that.

muttonchop wrote:

Oh neat, I didn't know about that.

Yeah, I learned about it through the ComicsExplained channel on YouTube during their series on the most recent version of Age of Ultron (while going back to explain a lot of characters from older runs).

f*ckin' comics, man.

Demosthenes wrote:

EDIT: Ok, apparently the URL tags either don't like underscores or parentheticals in URLs so... http://marvel.wikia.com/Vision_(Earth-616)

Internet is hard.

Here.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

f*ckin' comics, man.

iknowrite!?!

Demosthenes wrote:
muttonchop wrote:

Oh neat, I didn't know about that.

Yeah, I learned about it through the ComicsExplained channel on YouTube during their series on the most recent version of Age of Ultron (while going back to explain a lot of characters from older runs).

Is it odd that I prefer to get my background info from places like this as opposed to reading the 300 comics that go over what happened in a particular event?

manta173 wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:
muttonchop wrote:

Oh neat, I didn't know about that.

Yeah, I learned about it through the ComicsExplained channel on YouTube during their series on the most recent version of Age of Ultron (while going back to explain a lot of characters from older runs).

Is it odd that I prefer to get my background info from places like this as opposed to reading the 300 comics that go over what happened in a particular event?

Not really, I've read a few of the bigger storylines over the last year, but all that content is crazy. It'd be like trying to get a full handle on all of Doctor Who by going back to the original episodes (most of which are lost anyway) and starting from the beginning there... only like orders of magnitude bigger.

manta173 wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:
muttonchop wrote:

Oh neat, I didn't know about that.

Yeah, I learned about it through the ComicsExplained channel on YouTube during their series on the most recent version of Age of Ultron (while going back to explain a lot of characters from older runs).

Is it odd that I prefer to get my background info from places like this as opposed to reading the 300 comics that go over what happened in a particular event?

Nah, I do a mixture of getting my info from GWJ and Wikipedia.