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mrlogical wrote:

trichy, that's interesting to hear--what kind of tests did they run and did they give any explanation of why the ketogenic diet was best for you (to the extent that's a question you're comfortable answering)? As I'm considering visiting a registered dietitian, I would find it encouraging if one I saw was making their recommendations for diet based on tests/data about my body specifically rather than just "this is the diet everyone should eat."

As someone who's been on a low carb diet for quite a while, I hear you on all the goofy substitutes. I find a lot of fun in exploring ways to make healthy versions of things I like, but I'm certainly not deluding myself that my spinach crust pizza is anywhere near as good as real bread-based pizza.

My wife would be able to go into more detail (she has a food science degree and is far, FAR smarter than I am), but I've been on the DASH diet for quite a while, and it's had virtually no impact on my weight, blood pressure, cholesterol, or car resale value. That's why my doc sent me to the nutritionist. They had me eat a specific menu for a few weeks, and took blood tests and whatnot. In addition, I did a diet a few years back called Medifast, and was quite successful. While Medifast isn't technically Keto, it shares a lot of the same characteristics.

EDIT: It's worth noting that this wasn't some strip mall nutritionist with a mail in certificate. This guy's an MD with a pair of registered dieticians on his staff. So it was more science, less buy this magic milkshake.

Anyway, between my history of responding well to ketosis (not just in weight loss, but BP, cholesterol, etc.) and my test results, they suggested Keto as the right fit for me. They might be full of crap; but I'm dropping weight and begrudgingly don't feel like garbage anymore. So I suppose the "doctor" with his "education" and "expertise" was "right" and will help keep me from "dying early".

Also, fathead crust is the best not-pizza crust. Cook it in cast iron, and it comes within spitting distance of being recognizable as pizza.

Yep, Fathead was the best crust that I made as well.

Congrats, Trichy, on getting a jump on this! I was Keto as well as intermittent fasting (only eating from 12 noon till 7p) from October until the end of February and lost a bit of weight and pants sizes in the process. I am no longer following it, as it was a starting point for me, that I knew would transition into just an overall healthier eating style which includes healthy carbs, as I need them since I am lifting weights on a 3 day split.

By the way, almond flour is too damn expensive!

It's really not a diet. It's a lifest...

*gets beaten to death with broccoli by unidentified assailant*

I wish I could go keto. All my physical issues (borderline type 2, overweight) would likely benefit, but I’m afraid of what’s it would do to my anxiety to make such a drastic change. Instead I’m currently eating really clean. The only processed food I’m eating right now is sprouted wheat bread and I’m considering cutting that out.

So I post that and I wake up this morning and I'm down 39 pounds in the last month. Rapid weight loss has happened to me a couple other times in the past 5 years as I've been dealing with my medication situation. Usually around a period of time where my nervous system was freaking out. This time I've been relatively stable so I think this is more to do with cleaning up my diet. Still, criminy that's a lot of weight in a short amount of time. I hope this stabilizes into a more normal pattern.

My wife and I have been tracking/limiting calories and eating less than 20 carbs daily since early February. It's going well, she's lost about 13 lbs and I'm down 15 lbs. I'm enjoying it, to be honest. After the rough initial week I noticed a marked improvement in my overall mood, plus I sleep easier and wake up less groggy. I think my fat loss would have been more if not for my whiskey habit. I cut back my alcohol intake overall, which seems to really help.

My wife used to have issues with acid reflux which we associated with eating meat, but since gradually introducing various forms of beef and pork she has had ZERO issues with heartburn or acid. This way of eating has been great for her.

I'm curious what my blood work will look like in a few months at my checkup. I expect some numbers will be out of whack which will prompt the Dr. to give me the spiel on meat/eggs/dairy. From what I've read obesity is pretty much 100% a predictor for health issues, whereas the whole lipids/cholesterol thing is less certain, so we'll see how that appointment goes.

Congrats everyone! Sending good vibes your way.

I was going to have a big 'ol cheat day today with a big ass bowl of pasta. Turns out I'm not even in the mood for it. One thing I can say for sure about low/no carb - it kills my appetite. (I drink a lot of coffee too which helps.)

Osirian, back in 1999 I had terrible problems with GERD. I went off all the things that cause GERD like meat and dairy. Unfortunately I never took myself off the Prilosec, but the GERD resolved when my diet changed.

Over the years it’s fluctuated, but I never went back on beef and rarely eat pork. I think it helps. Lots of fish and poultry.

Three different people brought in donuts today. There are currently over two hundred donuts sitting twenty feet from my desk. I can smell them. I hate everyone and everything today. I think this is how super villains are born, because I would gladly blow up Detroit for a apple fritter right now.

After spending time researching registered dietitians in my area, I booked an appointment with one for a few weeks from now. I'm very intrigued by their system... As with pretty much anything in the diet arena, it's hard to tell whether they have unique insights or are just a bunch of quacks.

They tout their "metabolic testing" system as a way of telling whether your body is burning calories in the way that it should, suggesting that people often struggle with diets because they're actually not eating enough food and their body compensates by burning less energy and holding on to fat. That concept resonates with me, as someone who has spent long periods counting calories closely but ending up confused and frustrated by the lack of results. Yet also they show a picture of this machine you lay under with a bubble over your head that is supposedly measuring how many calories you're burning and how it is divided among burning fat vs protein vs carbs, and it looks kind of silly.

I'm very curious to see how this goes. Ideally they will use this data to help me adjust my diet to make sure it's working for me and set me on a good path. I figure in the worst case where this is a bunch of mumbojumbo that has little basis in reality, I waste a few hours in their office and spin my wheels diet-wise for a few months. I've confirmed that they are all registered dietitians and this is covered by my insurance, so, seems like it's worth a shot.

I have been on keto for five weeks now, and have lost twenty pounds. I am quite pleased about this. Today, the regional VP for my department offered to buy me lunch. He bought me pizza at the best place here in Nashville. Because I'm weak willed and easily intimidated, I agreed. I ate two pieces. Now I'm dying. I know the rules of the site frown upon goodbye posts, but I felt I should bid my goodjer family farewell as this carbohydrate loaded bomb completes its dark work upon my colon.

I always got a nice buzz from the carbs when I would have a cheat day with some carbs/sugar.

Congrats on the weight loss, that's fantastic!

I'm back up 3 pounds. Not feeling great. I think it's the soda, even though it's diet.

Or maybe the sleep deprivation with the baby, which drove me to the soda.

Or maybe only going 3 days a week to the gym instead of 4.

Or all of the above.

Gotta get it in check before I start feeling fat.

I’m down to 207 (from 225), and dropped a whole percent of body fat (down to 26.5%)!! Sub-200 is in sight.

Just eating less, in general, especially on days when I’ve had take-out. Also getting more movement at work - stairs, and walking to meetings (because the weather is much better, finally).

About two weeks ago, I got curious and stepped on a scale. 233, my highest ever weight. Granted, it was the wrong time of day for a weigh in, fully clothed, but the sticker shock was enough and coincided with a number of other factors that it was the right time for me to start doing something. 30 minutes on the treadmill 5-6 times a week, and a drastic adjustment in both type and quantity of what I eat, cutting soda out almost entirely. I'm not doing any sort of diet program, but I am tracking what I eat to keep it reasonable.

After 12 days so far, I'm down to a morning, just out of the shower weight of 223 this morning. I know it's probably 5-8 pounds just in not weighing my clothes and weighing first thing in the morning, but I'm happy with my 2-3 pound loss so far. And I think what I have going is actually sustainable longer-term.

Initially, I want to get to 200 even, maybe within 6 months or so, but I really want to get down to 185 or 175 in the end and then work on maintaining.

One thing is for sure, eating reasonably feels a whole lot better than being stuffed after a meal.

I often worried that my extremely high levels of diet soda consumption (like 5-10 cans a day for 15+ years) might have some connection to my weight challenges, but I have now gone about 15 months without a single Diet Coke and it has had precisely 0 effect on my weight as far as I can tell. YMMV, things affect different bodies differently, but I have been surprised by how little changed in my life by quitting diet soda. Still glad I did it--even if it was entirely benign, man, it was a lot!, and I now find myself just as happy drinking seltzer--but I was a little disappointed it didn't seem to affect my weight.

mrlogical wrote:

I often worried that my extremely high levels of diet soda consumption (like 5-10 cans a day for 15+ years) might have some connection to my weight challenges, but I have now gone about 15 months without a single Diet Coke and it has had precisely 0 effect on my weight as far as I can tell. YMMV, things affect different bodies differently, but I have been surprised by how little changed in my life by quitting diet soda. Still glad I did it--even if it was entirely benign, man, it was a lot!, and I now find myself just as happy drinking seltzer--but I was a little disappointed it didn't seem to affect my weight.

Anecdotal as all hell, but I drink 4 or more liters of that stuff a day, every day and have for.... 20 years? I weigh a little over 142lbs. If increase or decrease the amount of food I eat, that number moves. If I increase or decrease the amount of diet soda consumption, it does not.

I'm pretty convinced diet soda doesn't have much of an effect on weight for most people.
(which makes sense... it has very few, if any, calories)

I stopped because my general practitioner kept telling me about some study that said that, as far as I understood it, your pancreas (?) can't tell the difference between the artificial sweetener in diet soda and real sugar in regular soda, and so can respond to diet soda consumption by regulating your insulin (?) in a way that screws with your blood sugar/causes your body to store fat, something like that. I felt from my past experience (definitely not being a skinny person, but having lost significant amounts of weight while continuing my massive diet soda consumption) that this was either wrong or at least didn't apply to me for whatever reason, but thought it was worth trying cuz hey, I'm not a doctor and he is. But yeah...no effect on weight detected here.

Why am I suddenly struggling with sticking to my diet? Over a month with minimal issues, but all I want today is a cheeseburger.

trichy wrote:

Why am I suddenly struggling with sticking to my diet? Over a month with minimal issues, but all I want today is a cheeseburger.

Choose your own adventure:

  • Because a month isn't long enough to establish a concrete habit?
  • Having your man-period?
  • You've been eating inadequate protein/fat and now your body is craving it?
  • The cheeseburgers miss being eaten and are psychically calling out to you.
Jonman wrote:
trichy wrote:

Why am I suddenly struggling with sticking to my diet? Over a month with minimal issues, but all I want today is a cheeseburger.

Choose your own adventure:

  • Because a month isn't long enough to establish a concrete habit?
  • Having your man-period?
  • You've been eating inadequate protein/fat and now your body is craving it?
  • The cheeseburgers miss being eaten and are psychically calling out to you.

Listen, if you're going to bring "science" and "reason" to this situation, I don't even know what we're doing here.

Nice anecdotes about the diet soda. Maybe I shouldn't freak out yet. Lowering the intake for me last year coincided with me starting my gym habit and eating slightly healthier lunches, so maybe it was more about that and not the diet soda.

trichy wrote:

Listen, if you're going to bring "science" and "reason" to this situation, I don't even know what we're doing here.

Me? Science and reason?

I'm hurt Trichy. I thought we were friends.

Jonman wrote:
trichy wrote:

Listen, if you're going to bring "science" and "reason" to this situation, I don't even know what we're doing here.

Me? Science and reason?

I'm hurt Trichy. I thought we were friends.

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trichy wrote:

Why am I suddenly struggling with sticking to my diet? Over a month with minimal issues, but all I want today is a cheeseburger.

If you're still on keto, I should point out replacing the bun with a lettuce wrap is a staple of keto, and was on my menu a few times a week.

Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
trichy wrote:

Why am I suddenly struggling with sticking to my diet? Over a month with minimal issues, but all I want today is a cheeseburger.

If you're still on keto, I should point out replacing the bun with a lettuce wrap is a staple of keto, and was on my menu a few times a week.

Oh, absolutely! I looked forward to Friday nights when I would stop by Wendy's after the gym, and proceed to order a Dave's Double with no bun extra lettuce and a side salad.

Nearly three weeks in and my last 3 morning weigh-ins have all been sub 220. So I’m comfortable to officially say I’ve lost 5 pounds so far. Feeling good.

Robear wrote:

Stalled out on my current half-assed plan, so I started Noom. We'll see how it goes. I needed to change the way I think about weight loss and the associated habits and behaviors.

How has this been? I am thinking of trying it because I need some tracking. motivation setup.

* edit after I read all the posts after you original post.

So would you recommend Noom now after all this time?