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Grofaz wrote:

Thanks for posting these Hrdina

I also haven't played CK2 for ages, but love the sense of drama that comes from reading about other peoples playthroughs!

I've been enjoying sharing these. Plus, sometimes writing this stuff down helps me keep track of it all.

That said, I am starting to lose track of what's going on within the Empire, and the three kingdoms that interest me because they've all been held by the Premyslid family.

Kaiser Philipp 'the Bold' has ruled the HRE since 1329. He has managed to collect 4 of the 7 deadly sins, and has been fighting almost non-stop during his reign. He somehow managed to crush the major revolt by the combined forces of Lotharingia and Bavaria. He keeps fighting (and losing) embargo wars against Sweden, largely because they have a host of allies. He's also operating with a huge cash deficit (-3166 balance), yet has managed to stay on the throne for 18 years so far. His people no doubt yearn for the peaceful days of Emperor Castolov 'the Wise'.

The Empire itself has largely kept its borders for the last several decades. Amongst its neighbors, Poland is resurgent as it no longer has to contend with a strong Bohemia. The Empire is currently winning a small war there, though. Lithuania was formerly in good shape, but has lately lost territory to Poland, Ruthenia, and Denmark. Aquitaine, Italy, and Croatia have been pretty stable, and the Byzantines are doing OK despite losing some territory to Bulgaria.


In Lotharingia, Queen Zdenka 'the Careless' Premyslid died under suspicious circumstances in 1340, after ruling for 55 of her 65 years. Her successor was her grandson Udalrich Premyslid, son of Zdenka's oldest son, Udalrich. The younger Udalrich had a short reign, as he was overthrown by his aunt Eufemie 'the Usurper' in 1344. Eufemie's heir is her son, who is not of our dynasty.

In Bavaria, Zdenka's son the elder Udalrich had inherited the throne in 1329 from Zdenka's husband, Viktorin I. He then lost his throne when he was defeated by his brother, Viktorin II 'the Cruel' in 1347. If that sounds familiar, that's because it is a reversal of the war in 1334 wherein the elder Udalrich took the Kingdom of Bohemia from Viktorin! Udalrich, reduced to a mere Count, lived in his brother's prison before his was finally hanged in June 1347.

To complicate things further, immediately upon defeating Udalrich, King Viktorin II of Bavaria declared war upon his sister Queen Eufemie of Lotharingia.

The Kingdom of Bohemia is still ruled by the Kaiser. It is reduced somewhat. At its height, Bohemia was made up of four complete duchies (Bohemia, Moravia, Silesia, Greater Poland). How, it is made up of only Bohemia (minus Pilsn) and Moravia (minus Opava).

The Dukes of Silesia and Greater Poland (both members of the Premyslid family!) are both vassals of the Emperor.

As for my character, Prince Pelhrim, Count of Naklo, he is living under greatly reduced circumstances. His county is poor (only 1 castle and 1 bishopric). He has had to greatly reduce his retinue in order to have a non-negative cash flow. His liege is his brother, Prince Kojata 'the Gentle' Premyslid, Duke of Greater Poland. The duchy is made up of the counties of Naklo (Count Pelhrim), Lebus (Duke Kojata), and Posen (Countess Konstancja). It also de jure includes the County of Kalisz, which is currently a vassal of Duke Dalimir Premyslid of Bohemia. Pelhrim has been trying (unsuccessfully) to create a claim on that county.

Pelhrim did manage to gain some vengeance on the sons of his nemesis Otakar, with the help of his Dark Lord. Otakar's second son, Otakar, died of Slow Fever after being touched by Pelhrim. His eldest son, Petr, had contracted pneumonia in a similar fashion, but survived. Pelhrim then used a more subtle tactic, and recruited Petr into Lucifer's Own.

Pelhrim will have to use a fair bit of diplomacy if he wants to improve his position, as Naklo is a poor base for any military expansion.

Edit: Pelhrim died of severe in July 1347, almost immediately after I wrote the above. He ended his days corrupted physically by his activities in Lucifer's Own, a possessed lunatic, a known impaler, and infamous for his sympathy for muslims (in particular one elderly Egyptian hunchback mystic named Cleopatra who promised to share the secrets of the Philsopher's Stone).

Pelhrim is succeeded by his only son, Oldrich (age 14). Oldrich's heir is his uncle Kojata, the Duke of Greater Poland. Pelhrim had designated one of his courtiers, a deceitful French bastard, as regent. He felt that none of his councilors could be trusted with the job.

Kid better get to propagating, is all I can say.

Robear wrote:

Kid better get to propagating, is all I can say. :-)

Oddly enough, I'm considering having young Count Oldrich of Naklo refuse to marry. First, as soon as he hit his majority I learned that he was a Lunatic. Second (and more important), if he dies without an heir then his uncle Kojata will inherit, leaving me with 2 counties and a duchy. Kojata's county (Lebus) is slightly better than Naklo, in that it has three holdings, although one is still undeveloped.

Kojata and his wife are each 34 years old, and already have 4 children (but only 1 son).

Oldrich is 19 and Lustful, so he will no doubt have children, just not legitimate ones.

So I’ve bought Holy Fury on sale and want to give it a whirl. Any tips on which Norse factions are awesome to play? I’m trying not to get too wrapped up in the British isles since I played Ireland last time. Any suggestions? Rurik looks promising since I can go east and maybe establish ties with China eventually.

I love it when a plan comes together.

I love it even more when a broken plan works anyway.

Count Oldrich's uncle, Prince Kojata, Duke of Greater Poland, informed him that he was revoking the county of Naklo. Oldrich refused, so uncle and nephew each raised their armies and marched.


Kojata's army went straight to Naklo, which was spared only by the timely intervention of a third army made up of rebels against the King of Bavaria, which crushed Kojata's army while on their way to somewhere more important.

The army of Naklo then laid seige to both holdings in Kojata's one county, Lebus, then returned home to regain their own capital. At this point Naklo won a couple of battles against Kojata's depleted army. With the warscore at 91% in our favor, we saw Kojata's army return to Lebus. The army of Naklo marched there and engaged in February 1376. As they were on the very edge of victory, Count Oldrich himself was killed in the combat, ending the war and sparing much embarrassment for Kojata.

As Kojata himself was Oldrich's heir, I will now be playing as him, the Duke of Greater Poland, with a demesne of 2 counties. The duchy uses agnatic primogeniture, and Kojata's heir is his grandson Wido Premyslid (age 14) Wido is heir to a number of other duchies, including Burgundy, Carinthia, and Holland. Wido's father, Duke Kojata 'the Seducer', is still alive so I am not sure why he is not heir of Greater Poland.

Elsewhere among the Premyslid family, Queen Eufemie of Lotharingia died of cancer in 1356 and was succeeded by her son, King Savary Udonen of France. Thus was Lotharingia lost to the Premyslids after 108 years.

King Viktorin II 'the Cruel' of Bavaria lost his throne after only a year and a half, when King Uldalrich II 'the Pious', former king of Lotharingia and son of King Uldalrich I of Bavaria was installed by faction demand. He ruled until 1372, when he was conquered by King Savary of France and Lotharingia. Thus was Bavaria lost to the Premyslids, just as Lotharingia was lost

The Premyslids do still hold one kingdom. The Kingdom of Frisia was created in 1299 by Castolov 'the Wise' during his reign as Emperor. It has largely escaped notice as it is small and out-of-the-way. It had been passed down via election or inheritance since it was founded. leading to King Hrabis II, great-great grandson of Castolov. Hrabis lost his throne in 1368 when he was conquered by Udalrich 'the Pious', who was still King of Bohemia at that time.

Duke Kojata 'the Gentle' had a long but unremarkable reign over Greater Poland. He died of cancer at the age of 62, in 1379. He was, as expected, succeeded by his grandson Wido.

Wido had immense talent in military affairs and in personal combat. This, combined with the erratic natures of the men serving as Emperor, meant that Wido spent most of the remainder of his life in foreign lands, fighting the Kaiser's wars. Fortunately for the family, he spent enough time at home with his wife, Blazena Premyslid (sister of the current Duke of Silesia & Bohemia) to sire three sons (Karl, Kojata, and Philipp).

During the Kaiser's war against England, Wido lost an eye during personal combat in Norfolk. After his return home the eye became infected, eventually killing him.

The new Duke of Greater Poland is his eldest son, Karl II (age 6). Karl was already the Duke of Burgundy, as he had inherited it upon the death of his great-grandmother Eve (wife of Duke Kojata 'the Gentle') in 1383.

Karl's liege is King Sergio 'the Ill-Ruler' of France.

Karl's reign started with a Crusade that has been called against Egypt. Wido had already promised troops and sent them on their way, and Karl added some troops from Burgundy. At the conclusion of the Crusade, Karl's beneficiary Radbot, brother of Wido, was made the Emir of Cyrenaica.

Karl offloaded his counties in Greater Poland (Lebus and Naklo) to his brother and heir, Kojata. Karl retained the Duchy of Greater Poland, and was rewarded for his service to the Kaiser when the vassalage of the County of Kalisz was transferred to him from the Duke of Silesia, giving him all the de jure counties within Greater Poland.

During the regency, Karl was betrothed to Garyphallia, Queen of Poland (who is 2 years his senior). They were married immediately after he reached 16, so he is now "King" of Poland as well as the Duke of Burgundy and Greater Poland. Their first son, Wido was born in 1398. He is now heir to both the Kingdom of Poland and all of Karl's duchies. Garyphallia just gave birth to their second child, Jaromir, in 1404.

In 1403, Karl's grandfather Duke Kojata 'the Seducer' died, so Karl has inherited the Duchies of Karnten and Holland, along with three counties and a barony. He'll have to shed two of them to get back under his demesne limit. Those will probably be given to his younger brother Philipp, who is conveniently married to Princess Ulrike, daughter of Kaiser Ljudevit the Bold.

Elsewhere in the family, King Berenger 'the Usurper' of Bavaria (son of King Uldalrich the Pious) has gotten the upper hand on his older brother Udalrich 'the Fat' by taking both Bohemia and Frisia from him in 1403. Udalrich now controls only the Duchy of Austria and one county, and has supposedly taken to drink to drown his sorrows.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:
jrralls wrote:

Who here is buying imperator day one?

Hoho! I totally missed this announcement. I imagine I'll be buying pretty close to release, yeah.

I'll be in on day one/pre-order for Imperator. As soon as tboon mentioned this being a thing, I was all in!

I think the Governor system will prove to be very interesting, especially for intrigue. But hey - ancient empires. I'm totally in.

Duke Karl's marriage to Garyphallia 'the Purifier', Queen of Poland was short-lived and tragic.

First, their oldest son and heir, Wido, died "clutching his heart" in 1405 when he was only 7. He was a Giant, so perhaps his stature led to his poor health.

Garyphallia herself died in battle in 1407, against the lowly mayor of a city out east of the Dnepr. When that happened, their second child, Jaromir, became the King of Poland at the age of 3. The game then decided that Jaromir was no longer the heir for Karl (maybe because Poland is independent?), so his brother Kojata once again held the position of heir.

For the sake of his duchy, Karl immediately found another bride, Wendelmoet von Osterna, young daughter of a German patrician and very skilled at intrigue. He made her his spymaster. In 1416 she gave him a new son and heir, Wolfram Premyslid. This was followed by twin daughters in 1419 (Heilwiva and Romilda) and another daughter in 1420 (Amalie). Wendelmoet died in 1422 at the young age of 28. While Karl's armies were marching off to a Crusade against faraway Perm, Karl learned that his wife had been murdered on the order of his brother Kojata.

Karl sent some trusted me across Germany to the Duchy of Greater Poland, and they were able to capture Kojata before he could escape and raise an army. They dragged him back to Burgundy and threw him in Karl's prison until Karl could decide upon his punishment.

Edit: In 1423, Karl's son Jaromir 'the Traitor', King of Poland, had a son named Jaromir. The game immediately informed me that my grandson Jaromir is now my heir...

Some kind stranger saved me the trouble of deciding the fate of Karl's brother Kojata, as the latter died under suspicious circumstances within Karl's prison. That county (Lebus) has become a bit of a hot potato of late. Upon Kojata's death in 1424, his daughter Agathe became Countess. She lasted 3 years before dying of severe stress.

Agathe was succeeded by her young son, who reigned for 5 years before dying "comatose in bed" at age 9.

Next came Kojata's second daughter, Agostina. As soon as she became Countess, she started causing trouble for Karl, and joined multiple factions. Karl had his spymaster look into having Agostina removed, and was surprised to see maybe a dozen other nobles join in the plot. Clearly Karl was not the only enemy she made. Karl's son Wolfram, now Count of Macon, managed to place a viper into Agostina's quarters, and it made a quick end of her.

Countess Agostina had three daughters, and the first of those (Oda von Schmidtburg) has become Countess at age 5.

Meanwhile, a few years after the death of his wife Wendelmoet, Karl married Princess Anastasia of the Byzantine Empire. They have had two daughters (Berta and Barbara). At age 53, Karl has 7 living children, one of whom is the King of Poland.

In the early 1440s, the treacherous Count Sieghard of Westfriesland, with his faction, demanded more council power in Burgundy. Karl refused to be blackmailed, so Sieghard and two other counts revolted.

The war started out slowly, with Karl's armies sieging rebel holdings in France while the rebels sieged Karl's holdings in Greater Poland. Karl's armies were somewhat depleted after being called into several losing wars by his Polish allies. Those same Polish allies chose not to answer our Call to Arms, so are no longer our allies.

Our armies slightly outnumber the rebels, so once they each complete their sieges we should have an advantage.

While Karl's forces were in the County of Varais, Karl died a natural death at age 64. His grandson Jaromir, son of King Jaromir of Poland, is the new Duke. Jaromir is 22 and married, but has no children so his brother Karol is his heir.

The rebels immediately offered peace to Jaromir, which he rejected.

Shortly afterward, Jaromir learned that the rebels had a second army to his south. His forces outnumbered each of the two rebel armies individually, but not overall. Their northern army was rumored to be heading southward as well. Jaromir immediately ordered an attack on the southern rebel army, which they defeated. However, Jaromir was seriously wounded in a duel with Berthold von Westfriesland. Berthold himself was captured, then hanged.

In 1447, Jaromir's brother Karol became King of Poland (* I thought he did, but now I'm not sure) and was therefore no longer his heir. Because Jaromir had no children, his nephew became his heir, and his nephew is from another family. His chaste wife is not helping matters.

It would really suck if the game ended within within the final 5 years.

That same year, Sieghard (the rebel leader) died comatose in bed, an incapable lunatic. His daughter Mechthild became the new leader of the rebellion. She refused Jaromir's offer of a white peace.

In June 1448, the Kaiser decreed Realm Peace. This brought the rebellion to an end in December.

After the conclusion of the war, Jaromir took one of his courtiers (another Premyslid of course) as a lover.

In April 1449, King Jaromir I of Poland lost an excommunication war to Count Boris of Volkovysk. I could have sworn that his second son Karol had become King of Poland in 1447, but apparently that was not true. Maybe he rebelled or something? The history of the Kingdom of Poland shows that Jaromir I had been king since 1407.

In any event, when that Excommunication War ended, Duke Jaromir of Burgundy suddenly found himself as King Jaromir II of Poland. Even more strangely, his heir is his father, former King Jaromir I, who appears to remain neither dead nor excommunicated.


A funny side-effect of this is that the Duchy of Greater Poland, which was captured by the Kings of Bohemia so long ago, is once again a vassal of the Polish King.


Naturally, in 1449, Duchess Viola 'the Just' of Mazovia declared Jaromir II to be a pretender, and declared war to enforce Karol's claim to the throne. Jaromir is greatly outnumbered in this conflict.

During the war, Jaromir's lover gave birth to a daughter, Helene, who was legitimized and made his heir.

Karol remained Jaromir's Steward even after the war started. Jaromir decided to imprison his brother. This attempt was supposedly successful, but the only result seemed to be that Karol left his office and went to another court.

Viola died in 1450, and her son Janusz because the new leader of the revolt.

Someone within the revolt convinced the Pope to excommunicate Jaromir in 1451. Shortly afterward, his wife (Jaromir's, not the Pope's) became pregnant. Correlation does not imply causation, I guess.

The war came to an end in 1451, so Jaromir once again found himself as only the Duke of Burgundy (and a few other smaller duchies). He is immensely unpopular, and a powerful faction is already pressing for Count Wolfram of Macon, son of Karl II, to become the Duke of Burgundy.


I sent my Spymaster to the County of the head of the faction pushing for Wolfram, and he immediately found material we could leverage against the Count. I told the Spymaster to blackmail him, and between the time I sent that direction and the time that he responded, the Count declared Jaromir a pretender. Jaromir is tired of war (and had no hope of victory), so agreed to their demands and left to make the Duchy of Carinthia his primary title (he also has Greater Poland and Holland). He chose Carinthia over the others because it is the only one in which he still holds a County.

As if to kick a Duke when he's down, a faction led by a Countess in Greater Poland demanded both Gavelkind Succession and Greater Council Power shortly after Jaromir's arrival in Carinthia. He was powerless to resist.

The game came to a merciful end at this point. According to the "score" it was a very successful game. There are Premsylids all over Europe now. I had wanted to use the character search to see how many were rulers, but once you've reached the end of the game all you can do is look at your score or quit.


Nice work, Hrdina! That's a long and amazing dynasty. Congrats on seeing it to the end. I've enjoyed following along!

So, what's next?

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

Nice work, Hrdina! That's a long and amazing dynasty. Congrats on seeing it to the end. I've enjoyed following along!

Thanks! I honestly thought that Jaromir was going to die without an heir in 1450 or so.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

So, what's next? ;)

Ha ha.

After that last few decades, I'll need some downtime before I start another game. I'm pretty sure I want to be outside the HRE.

I had the game save my Chronicle to a file at the end. The last entry was this:

Premyslid Chronicle wrote:

- 1452 -
A goat with three heads was born in Ancona.

Seems like a fitting ending.


Happy 7th, Paradox!

(Despite the bloat, CK2 is likely my fave GaaS title of all time!)

Game As A Service?


That's what all the crazy kids are calling 'em these days.

Not sure why... They run locally, you don't subscribe to them, they are not based on a consumption model...

I think it's more of an umbrella term these days covering a variety of continued support & monetization models.

I thought it meant Graaaaaaaand Strategy. ^_^

I don't think of Paradox games as services. They aren't F2P supported by micro transactions or even have a network component. They are old strategy game in a box with optional expansions to fund development. It's not much of a tweak in the business model on PCs in the 90s.

I agree. I work with "As A Service" stuff, and games on Steam are not really that. Still, love the game, love Steam, I even love the periodic update formula. So not complaining.

Except just more.

I can see how you could think of a long-tail game like CK2 as a GaaS, it's kind of how I have come to think of all the PDS games. I've read that they are thinking of making the next CK F2P for the base and just charging for expansions and unit packs and etc.

The problem with the current PDS model is that the "game" ends up costing $1000 (probably exaggeration, I don't have time to do the math) if you toss in all the main expansions. The positive, of course, is that we as gamers spend that over years and get an ever-evolving game, so long as we get in on the ground floor. If someone decides now to get into CK2, man, that just seems daunting. Yeah sales, blah blah blah but reducing that dauntingness (new word!) for new players is the main reason I did my expansion buying guides back in the day.

It's not a service, though. If it were, we'd play it with a browser or a *small* client app, and not host it ourselves. We'd likely pay for the time we connected to the game, as well as the number of stored games we keep. And we could turn off the charges at the end of the month, archiving everything for a low fee until we wanted to play again.

We would not have to install it, provide space on our systems for it, update it, or otherwise manage it. We'd simply connect and play.

I think we will get to that model at some point, although it will take a while for graphics intensive games to not have to put their graphics environment on the client. But PDS games are not services in anything like the IT sense.

They are, however, very good and satisfying.

While everyone else appears to be off playing Imperator, I started up a new game of CK2. This time I've decided to start as High Chief Cirulis Palemonaitis of Lithuania in the Early Middle Ages (769 CE). This has proven to be a murder-filled game so far.


The High Chiefdom makes up only a small part of the de jure Kingdom of Lithuania, so this should leave a little room for early-game maneuver. The High Chiefs of Lithuania strive to create a kingdom, and to protect their Romuva faith.

By the time that Cirulis died of depression in 777, he had conquered or subjugated a number of nearby provinces, expanding his high chiefdom. His realm was split between his eldest son, Rimgaila, and his youngest, Jogaila. His third son (by his second wife), Lutuveras, had some land but was still a vassal of Rimgaila.

Rimgaila proved to be a successful ruler, despite being a dull, uncouth, cynical lunatic. He first fought his brother to re-unify his father's realm, then used his impressive military skills to subjugate enough provinces to declare himself King of Lithuania in 806. By the time he died in 814, he had lost both eyes and one legs to a combination of battle injuries and medical treatments.

Rimgaila was succeeded by his half-brother, Lutuveras, as Jogaila had already died in 809. Lutuveras had great promise as a leader, which was thwarted by a disgruntled council and a rivalry with Rimgaila's son, Kesgaila 'the Spider'. Kesgaila had been groomed by his father, but was not elected. Instead, he took his lands and did not swear fealty to the King. Lutuveras quickly defeated him to take back Livonia, leaving him only with a single county (Deltuva). However, the reign of Lutuveras ended abruptly when he fell from a tower, probably by the order of his son Skirgaila.

No one could prove Skirgaila's connection to his father's death, and he was elected to be his successor in 818. He had, apparently, made an enemy of Cirulis II, son of King Rimgaila and High Chief of Skalva (a vassal). Cirulis II was presumed to be Skirgaila's heir, yet he ordered the murder Skirgaila's wife, which occurred in 821. Skirgaila eventually got his revenge, and took part in the plot that led to the death of Cirulis in 829.

Skirgaila also saw to the end of Kesgaila, who had left Lithuania and converted to Islam after losing his chiefdom to an uprising. He returned at the head of an adventuring band in 828, and won a couple of battles against Skirgaila (disfiguring him in the process and capturing the Queen). He was eventually outmaneuvered and killed in battle by one of Skirgaila's allies in 830, but not before Queen Brita had died in his dungeon.

Despite saving Lithuania from the invader, in 832 Skirgaila also died under suspicious circumstances and was succeeded by his half-brother, Tarvydas, who was the son of a concubine.

The reign of Tarvydas lasted just over one year before he, too, died under suspicious circumstances. He was succeeded in 833 by Minigaila, a true child of Skirgaila and Brita. His goal should be to die a natural death while protecting the realm. We currently hold most of the de jure provinces of Lithuania. A couple of coastal provinces are held by the proto-Swedes, and some in the south are held by relatively friendly powers (Saxony, Bohemia, Vyatichia). We have one extremely powerful vassal in our north, High Chief Volodar of Latgale (our Steward), who has expanded his territory at the expense of Estonia. He currently controls most of the land north of the river Daugava, and can raise more troops than us, so Minigaila will have to tread carefully with him. Voldar is of a different culture & religion, too.


769-777: High Chief Cirulis
777-814: King Rimgaila 'the Lion'
814-818: King Lutuveras 'the Lionheart'
818-832: King Skirgaila
832-833: King Tarvydas 'the Ill-Ruler'

Edit: When I restarted, I immediately proposed a betrothal between King Minigaila (24) and High Chief Volodar's oldest daughter (12). He accepted, and they were married as soon as she turned 16. Hopefully that will keep him civil for a while. Given that he's in his 50s...

Ha! You’ve got more people dying than Game of Thrones! That’s awesome. Good luck with Lithuania!

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

Ha! You’ve got more people dying than Game of Thrones! That’s awesome. Good luck with Lithuania!

Thanks, I'm sure I'll need it.

Ironically I just finished the second GoT book. I'm only three behind, and pretty confident that I can get to those before the sixth book is released.

With the pace he’s publishing them at, you should have plenty of time if you read one page a day.

King Mingaila 'the Wicked' is now 50 years old, which is a surprisingly long lifespan for a Lithuanian King.

His decision to marry the daughter of the High Chief Volodar proved to be wise. Volodar caused the King no trouble until his death in 848 (aged 72). His daughter, Viachaslava, has been a good match for Mingaila. Despite the fact that he is homosexual, possessed, a lunatic, and has Great Pox, they have had 6 children.

After Volodar's death, his son Putiata became High Chief and has become a thorn in the side of the King. He has taken counties from two of my vassals, and now controls 5 of our 7 counties north of the river. He complains that I should grant him my High Chiefdom of Sakala (as we each hold one of its three counties). He is plotting to fabricate a claim on the kingdom.

Mingaila married one of his daughters to Putiata's heir, to gain a non-aggression pact, and also made him the Chancellor. Mingaila wanted to revoke at least one of Putiata's counties, but was unable to convince the Council to pass the Title Revocation law. Finally deciding that the threat was too great, the king recalled Putiata to Vilnius from Novgorod (where he had improved our relations), then ordered his arrest in the middle of the night. This must have suprised Putiata as the arrest was successful despite having only a 31% chance.

Mingaila replaced Putiata with a more friendly Chancellor, and got the Title Revocation law passed. Unfortunately he cannot use it against Putiata due to the non-aggression pact. That will have to wait until Putiata's tragic demise in the dungeon.

The reign of Minigaila 'the Wicked' came to an end in a circuitous fashion.

In 863, his eldest son Svitrigaila, who was his Spymaster, was murdered. Evidence led back to High Chief Lutuveras II of Livonia, a powerful vassal and occasional claimant of the throne. Minigaila ordered him to be killed, but (being a lunatic) lost patience and ordered him arrested (with a 55% chance).

Lutuveras evaded the arrest and declared a rebellion. At this point Minigaila learned what he should have checked before the arrest; Lutuveras had many allies.

The start of the rebellion saw each side consolidate their forces and siege the other's territory. One open battle happened in Zemgale, and the loyalists were forced to retreat. They circled around north and besieged the rebel city of Riga. As the rebels approached the city, the loyalists moved across the river Daugava, daring the rebels to follow. They did so, and were beaten and forced to retreat.

At this point the loyalists finished their siege, and then foolishly moved on to siege another city. This allowed the rebels to cross the river unopposed and with the help of some late-arriving allies crush the loyalist army.

Seeing no hope, Minigaila was prevailed upon by his councilors to surrender in March of 866. He abdicated in favor of Gedigaudas, a son of King Rimgaila 'the Lion'. Minigaila now serves as the Chancellor of Curonia. He had a long and successful rule, despite his many handicaps, but will be remembered for the tragic way he lost his crown and brought destruction to his kingdom.

Gedigaudas will be at best a caretaker king. He is already 62, and is not well-liked. He also must deal with a treasury that was depleted by the war.

769-777: High Chief Cirulis
777-814: King Rimgaila 'the Lion'
814-818: King Lutuveras 'the Lionheart'
818-832: King Skirgaila
832-833: King Tarvydas 'the Ill-Ruler'
833-866: King Minigaila 'the Wicked'

Edit: Not surprisingly, Mingaila 'the Wicked' died of Great Pox just six months after his abdication.