Help Me Build My PC Catch-All

Dakuna:

So, all that is getting upgraded is the CPU, Motherboard, Memory, and case? It would be better to go with 2 4-GB sticks rather than 1 8-GB stick. The motherboard will want dual channel memory. The 1 stick will work, but it's not ideal, and you won't be taking advantage of the available bandwidth. DDR3-1600 MHz is good.

I wouldn't expect a big boost in gaming performance without doing a GPU upgrade as well. I imagine that the GT630 is pretty underpowered. I'm assuming that this is a preliminary upgrade until the GPU gets upgraded.

I'm going to check those crossfire comparisons for Oily and Wipeout now.

So, for Oily, to compare the 6870 crossfire option versus the 7950 option, I'm going to do a quick rough comparision going on the idea that 6870 roughly doubles the performance minus 10 percent. The 6000 series cards were the first to really get good crossfire efficiency with the drivers. Obviously, not all games support crossfire and some won't run as well as others. So, if you look at this comparison chart via Anandtech, you will see that a single 7950 runs just a little bit less than twice as fast FPS-wise than a single 6870. So, you would probably get similar performance with 6870 crossfire. So, if your power supply can handle it, might as well go with another 6870. Since your current one is probably getting older, I would just go with a used one to save money. There should be a ton of used ones up for sale on eBay because the card is a bit older and many people may have upgraded to newer cards.

So, that's a really rough idea of what to expect. If you going any higher resolution than 1920x1080, I would go with the 7950 just because it has 3 GB of available memory.

Doing the same for Wipeout's question, you can look at this comparison chart. A single 6950 versus a 7970 shows that the 7970's performance is double or a little better in some cases. Since crossfire will almost double the performance, you really aren't going to benefit from a single 7970. The 670 performs a bit worse in terms of raw numbers. It might be easier on the eyes, though, with smaller FPS-fluctuations than AMD cards due to the nicer drivers. I'd save your money, WipeOut.

Thanks, TB =)

oilypenguin wrote:

Thanks, TB =)

No problem! The other thing to consider is that crossfire profiles with AMD sometimes take a few weeks to come out unless it's the triplest of triple A game. It can be really frustrating if you are the type of person that buys any games on day 1. In those cases, you would be glad to just be running one, new, powerful card.

tuffalobuffalo:
Thanks I'll do the 2x4 gb sticks then.

Thanks a ton mr buffalo I am no expert on hardware by any stretch, and I very grateful for the input.

Thanks for the info, Tuffalo! I'm thinking I'll be upgrading my VGA coolers within the next couple months (when I get more time-- so busy, I've hardly been playing games at all lately!! )

Really quick question hopefully. I have this motherboard and this graphics card. The card is getting a bit noisy lately and running a bit hot. Since it's almost 3 years old I might want to upgrade it.

Any suggestions?

Norfair wrote:

Really quick question hopefully. I have this motherboard and this graphics card. The card is getting a bit noisy lately and running a bit hot. Since it's almost 3 years old I might want to upgrade it.

Any suggestions?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...

Looks like a good deal...

That is a mighty fine deal, especially with the game deal thing going on right now.

TheGameguru wrote:
Norfair wrote:

Really quick question hopefully. I have this motherboard and this graphics card. The card is getting a bit noisy lately and running a bit hot. Since it's almost 3 years old I might want to upgrade it.

Any suggestions?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...

Looks like a good deal...

Doesn't look like my mother board has a PCI Express 3.0 slot. Would that be a problem?

Norfair wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Norfair wrote:

Really quick question hopefully. I have this motherboard and this graphics card. The card is getting a bit noisy lately and running a bit hot. Since it's almost 3 years old I might want to upgrade it.

Any suggestions?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...

Looks like a good deal...

Doesn't look like my mother board has a PCI Express 3.0 slot. Would that be a problem?

no the cards are backwards compatible to PCI 2.0 and honestly you won't notice any real world benefits from PCI 3.0... Theres a bug in Nvidia 600 series cards that won't even flip on PCI 3.0 in X79 boards and there really isnt any need right now to even care.

Norfair wrote:

Really quick question hopefully. I have this motherboard and this graphics card. The card is getting a bit noisy lately and running a bit hot. Since it's almost 3 years old I might want to upgrade it.

Any suggestions?

I have a 4870 and thought I had been doing a good job of cleaning it with canned compressed air until I pulled the card and looked at the heatsink head-on. It was clogged like mad and only direct compressed air in a way I couldn't apply it while it was in the case regardless of how the case was sitting was able to clean it out. I dropped 15 or so degrees just by doing that.

Yeah I was going to clean it out too but the fact that it's older then my daughter made me start thinking of upgrading it.

Norfair wrote:

Yeah I was going to clean it out too but the fact that it's older then my daughter made me start thinking of upgrading it.

The techie's best solution to everything -- Just get a new and better one.

Doh. I got my new video card in, tried it out. Wouldn't boot the system up all the way. Figures that the card needs 500w and my PSU puts out 400w. Hopefully this will be the last PC related purchase for a bit, I'm afraid my wife will lose her patience if there is much more to replace.

I'm still of the mindset that having a PSU that will barely get by is a bad idea. You want to be somewhere in the 50-75% range for peak performance for most PSUs, right? More to the 75%, I think.

Need to do some research.

Norfair wrote:

Yeah I was going to clean it out too but the fact that it's older then my daughter made me start thinking of upgrading it.

So I took the card out last night and gave it a good dusting. When I first booted it up the card immediately sounded quieter. Unfortunately windows decided not to boot. After an hour of playing around with boot disks and system restores (which it couldn't find) I figured out that I accidentally pulled the power cord on my main drive.

All back to normal now.

Also, I bought that card and should have it by Wednesday.

DOUBLE SUCCESS!

Norfair wrote:

After an hour of playing around with boot disks and system restores (which it couldn't find) I figured out that I accidentally pulled the power cord on my main drive.

Been there, done that a number of times. The "oh, I'm such an idiot" moment is a relief.

Currently enabling a console only friend to build a PC. It's always fun to walk people through the motions.

TempestBlayze wrote:

Currently enabling a console only friend to build a PC. It's always fun to walk people through the motions.

Good luck, and remember we're all counting on you.

TempestBlayze wrote:

Currently enabling a console only friend to build a PC. It's always fun to walk people through the motions.

Growing tired of being the techsupport guy I stopped doing that a few years ago. If a friend is building one on their own and needs help I will gladly assist but no way am I going to be the one that sparks the project!

Newegg has a real decent looking sale on the 500gb Samsung 840 SSD for $280

I know it's not the Pro, so the write speeds are reduced, although from a comparison or two I saw the read speeds were pretty close. I'm trying to figure out how often a reduced write speed would detract for me. I'm thinking I do a lot more saving of smaller files these days, text basically and small images, and not as often large PSD files.

For the price, about $0.60 a GB, think it's worth it? I'd love to have breathing room on my SSD

My sub $1000 2013 1080P Gaming Build.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Gzgc

If you want higher FPS with max details then you would need to swap out the Video Card to a 7970 3GB or a 680GTX 2/4GB VideoCard which would add another ~$200 to the price.

I'm kind of excited-- I get to build my friend/co-worker's workstation this weekend. For a few short hours I get to live vicariously through him and build something close to what I'd like to have. Minus the video card, because he's not really a gamer at all so we didn't go balls out on that one...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BHw7

Go for a Z77 Mobo rather than a Z68

Sure it will work fine.. it might need a bios update to properly support Ivy Bridge if its been sitting on the shelf a while... in general Z77 is slightly more feature rich and mature.. as well it will support 32GB memory a good deal better than the Z68. But that should be fine.

Oh crap-- he's already bought the parts But can I ask why? I've heard the Z77s are better overall, but I'm still not clear what makes them superior exactly. In my friend's case, he'll be using Photoshop and Illustrator more than anything else, maybe some ZBrush as well, so he primarily needs CPU power-- I figured the Z68 would suffice in the bang-for-your-buck category. When I was coming up with the list a few weeks ago, I was trying to skimp in some areas to get the 16GB RAM, SSD and somewhat-higher-end GPU into his budget.

Thanks! I'll definitely keep that in mind for my inevitable new build. Though probably by the time I get around to building myself a new computer there'll be something newer/better than the Z77's and i7's.

Also: Any recommendations on Z77 boards in that $120-150 price range?