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Corsair announces the 900D case at CES... omg

Obsidian 900D

Super-massive, ultra-expandable tower case
10 expansion slots, 9 HDD/SSD bays (3 hot swap), 4 ODD bays, room for 2 PSUs, 15 fan mount points, 5 radiator mount points
Also includes blue and white inserts and installation tool
MSRP and Availability: Price and details in official announcement upon release – ETA: February/March

TheGameguru wrote:

Corsair announces the 900D case at CES... omg

Obsidian 900D

Super-massive, ultra-expandable tower case
10 expansion slots, 9 HDD/SSD bays (3 hot swap), 4 ODD bays, room for 2 PSUs, 15 fan mount points, 5 radiator mount points
Also includes blue and white inserts and installation tool
MSRP and Availability: Price and details in official announcement upon release – ETA: February/March

Not meaning to be a troll, or Bill Gates-circa 1985, just uninformed - why would anyone need 10 expansion slots, 9 HDD bays, 2 PSUs, 15 fans, and 5 radiator mounting points?

McIrishJihad wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

Corsair announces the 900D case at CES... omg

Obsidian 900D

Super-massive, ultra-expandable tower case
10 expansion slots, 9 HDD/SSD bays (3 hot swap), 4 ODD bays, room for 2 PSUs, 15 fan mount points, 5 radiator mount points
Also includes blue and white inserts and installation tool
MSRP and Availability: Price and details in official announcement upon release – ETA: February/March

Not meaning to be a troll, or Bill Gates-circa 1985, just uninformed - why would anyone need 10 expansion slots, 9 HDD bays, 2 PSUs, 15 fans, and 5 radiator mounting points?

Sounds like a small server grade chassis to me. In fact I need to check this out as an option for the server I want to build.

It does seem like the very high end PC stuff going in there, I'm thinking big watercooling kit and 3/4 card SLI.

That case is MASSIVE. Looks at all those wire management slots! I love that you put the power supply on its size.

The 500r I just built with has been amazing. I love corsair cases now.

Scratched wrote:

It does seem like the very high end PC stuff going in there, I'm thinking big watercooling kit and 3/4 card SLI.

You could put 2 separate radiators for cooling CPU and 4 Video Cards... and still have plenty of room for wire management.

http://www.pcper.com/news/Cases-and-...

Cyranix, not sure why you are spending $80 on the CPU cooler. If you wanna grab one today, you can get the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ for $20 after $10 MIR or the slightly better more full contact model, the 212 EVO for $25 after $5 MIR (this one's good to the 14th).

The 212+ has seen a lot of use around here and is the best for the money period. It keeps my i5 750 (that's the 1st gen i5's, not current 3rd) running in the upper 20's at idle and low 50's under full load using the generic thermal paste that came with it without cleaning the top of the cpu that had the stock cpu cooler / thermal pad on for over a year and would run in the low 80's under load.

mrtomaytohead wrote:

Cyranix, not sure why you are spending $80 on the CPU cooler. If you wanna grab one today, you can get the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ for $20 after $10 MIR or the slightly better more full contact model, the 212 EVO for $25 after $5 MIR (this one's good to the 14th).

The 212+ has seen a lot of use around here and is the best for the money period. It keeps my i5 750 (that's the 1st gen i5's, not current 3rd) running in the upper 20's at idle and low 50's under full load using the generic thermal paste that came with it without cleaning the top of the cpu that had the stock cpu cooler / thermal pad on for over a year and would run in the low 80's under load.

It's basically a premium for the quietness, and I'm okay with giving it a try to see if the difference is noticeable.

212 EVO: 9.0 - 36.0 dbA, 600 - 2000 RPM
NH-D14: 12.6 - 19.8 dbA, 900 - 1200 RPM

I'm trading off a slightly higher idle spec for more consistent performance under load (remembering especially that increases in the dbA scale are not linear).

For another data point, I'm using the Arctic Freezer i30, which is rated at 0.3 sones (roughly 21dBA). NewEgg sells it for $30. The only potential issue is that it's enormous and can overhang memory slots on some motherboards.

My 212 EVO is so quiet. I love it.

Just make sure the 212 evo will fit your case. That sucker is big.

complexmath wrote:

For another data point, I'm using the Arctic Freezer i30, which is rated at 0.3 sones (roughly 21dBA). NewEgg sells it for $30. The only potential issue is that it's enormous and can overhang memory slots on some motherboards.

I've got a Freezer 13 and it doesn't overhang my memory slots, it looks about the same size.

I have an ASRock Z77 Extreme6 and the fan overhangs the slot closest to the CPU. I have the fan set to blow air through the cooler and out the back of the case, which is the configuration most likely to do this however. If I rotated the cooler 90 degrees it would probably be fine.

A friend of mine gave me an old Quad Core Extreme and mobo, which, believe it or not, was an upgrade from my current set up. Mobo is a Gigabyte UltraDurable 2. Chip is stock 2.7, over clocked to 3.2.

I set it up, but my PS only had a 4 pin 12v cable, the mobo has an 8 pin slot. Being eager to just get running, I plugged it in. This is Sunday. Up and running, no problems. Have had a few TF2 sessions with no issues but didn't do any significant stress testing.

Last night I fire up BF3. Plays so much better with the new equipment! About an hour in, game freezes, sound looping, pc beeping. Ruh-oh.

Shut it down. Power it up. Getting a single beep, seems shorter than usual, but might be my imagination. HDD is working. Peripherals appear to be being recognized, their lights are coming up and down normally.

Not getting any video. No post screen, no login.

All fans are spinning, no obvious damage anywhere.

So, did I blow something with the 4pin in the 8pin? From what I have read you can get away with this, but probably now with the overclock. BF3 may have pushed it too far?

Coincidence and the videocard has died? If I nuked the chip I wouldn't expect to see the activity with the HDD and peripherals.

This ok in this thread? I didn't see a dedicated help thread.

Yeah, this is the thread for that question. I don't have an answer for you. Maybe look for a PDF of the MB manual and check to see what the beep codes are? It sure would be a pain, but can you test the card in someone else's system or downgrade back to your old system?

Motherboards typically have 2 power sockets, one is a 4 pin and I believe powers the CPU and the other is really big and powers the bus and peripherals. I've never tried with just the one plugged in, but I'm not surprised that it failed. You'll probably need a newer PSU, though maybe there's an adaptor for two 4 pin plugs.

I have an older card I can throw in to test the video theory. Concerned about firing up the system if the 4pin into an 8pin is an issue. It worked fine for a few days though. Could revert to the old board and see if the video card works.

complex, I have the big one for bus and peripherals, the 12v plug is 8pin but I only had a 4. Was looking at adapters, but didn't know if I would just be splitting less power over 8 pins and not increasing the power.

It's a 650W PS from Coolermaster. I think the 12v rails have 18amps each if I read and am remembering correctly.

psoplayer wrote:
FlamingPeasant wrote:

Coincidence and the videocard has died? If I nuked the chip I wouldn't expect to see the activity with the HDD and peripherals.

What HDD activity are you seeing? The mobo will power up your peripherals and drives during POST, so that alone doesn't rule out the possibility of a fried chip.

The led is flickering and I can hear the drive spinning. Not a constant spin, it seems to be behaving as it normally would during startup.

Nevermind. Things were clarified.

FlamingPeasant wrote:

Coincidence and the videocard has died? If I nuked the chip I wouldn't expect to see the activity with the HDD and peripherals.

What HDD activity are you seeing? The mobo will power up your peripherals and drives during POST, so that alone doesn't rule out the possibility of a fried chip.

Edit @complexmath: Newer mobos have more pins on their connectors. There's still a big one, but has four extra optional pins on one end, and the smaller 4-pin has been expanded to 8. Many mobos come with the extra 4 pins on both connectors covered up by a little plastic lid, which is meant to be left there if you have a power supply that doesn't have all the newest pin options. Likewise, newer power supplies have those extra 4 pins on the mobo connectors made as detachable, so you can still power older mobos that don't use them.

FlamingPeasant wrote:

complex, I have the big one for bus and peripherals, the 12v plug is 8pin but I only had a 4. Was looking at adapters, but didn't know if I would just be splitting less power over 8 pins and not increasing the power.

Oh, gotcha. I forgot about the 4 to 8 pin change on that connector. And to think I just built my new PC a few months ago.

Huh. Switched to an analog cable with a dvi adapter to see if the hdmi cable was a factor. Tried to boot but shut itself down after a few seconds. Replaced hdmi, got the 'seems to be booting' behaviour.

Popped in an 8800 GTX, (using analog cable with dvi adapter) and it boots. It wanted to check the harddrive, probably because I had shut it off at a wierd time when I had no video.

Coincidence, or is the power supply a factor? Need to test the card in a different set up I guess. a GTX 295.

My new company is giving me a tech allowance to purchase gear. I'm going to be needing a laptop as I have no office and need to be able to edit video, shop photos and uh, play some sweet ass games.

I'm looking to get this:

ASUS G75 Series Notebook with an i7 2.30GHz, with a 17.3" screen, 12GB of DDR3, a 500GB HD and a GeForce GTX 670M. The problem is this thing weights 8.7 pounds. Is there a lighter laptop with the same specs? Or a really good weight-distribution carrying system?

The link is here: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230408

The shiny picture is below.

IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/maVwO.png)

SB, I have a feeling you'll be in one of those "less weight, lower specs, no videocard - pick two" territory.

Theres a Sony VAIO i7 that weighs under 4lbs, but has the GeForce 640M and you'd probably be using an external HDD for major storage.

Use the Advanced filtering options to show only stuff with a dedicated GPU, and then you can see the bands of hits based on Weight to filter from there, or filter by the specific mobile video card.

I got my laptop here http://www.malibal.com

They ship to Canada, I'm sure there are others as well. I'd suggest looking into Clevo resellers/customizers, you have a lot more options. Asus and MSI do make good gaming/work laptops as well though

McIrishJihad wrote:

SB, I have a feeling you'll be in one of those "less weight, lower specs, no videocard - pick two" territory.

Theres a Sony VAIO i7 that weighs under 4lbs, but has the GeForce 640M and you'd probably be using an external HDD for major storage.

Use the Advanced filtering options to show only stuff with a dedicated GPU, and then you can see the bands of hits based on Weight to filter from there, or filter by the specific mobile video card.

Ho boy. OK then. Anybody got good weight distribution suggestions?

Citizen86 wrote:

I got my laptop here http://www.malibal.com

They ship to Canada, I'm sure there are others as well. I'd suggest looking into Clevo resellers/customizers, you have a lot more options. Asus and MSI do make good gaming/work laptops as well though

Thanks. I'll check it out.

Other question: Is there a site that you can build the laptop you want and they ship it to after? You pick the parts kind of deal?

Strangeblades wrote:
McIrishJihad wrote:

SB, I have a feeling you'll be in one of those "less weight, lower specs, no videocard - pick two" territory.

Theres a Sony VAIO i7 that weighs under 4lbs, but has the GeForce 640M and you'd probably be using an external HDD for major storage.

Use the Advanced filtering options to show only stuff with a dedicated GPU, and then you can see the bands of hits based on Weight to filter from there, or filter by the specific mobile video card.

Ho boy. OK then. Anybody got good weight distribution suggestions?

I lugged around a heavy 17 inch for a long time. There really aren't any good options. It's going to get really annoying on occasion no matter what you do.

Strangeblades wrote:
Citizen86 wrote:

I got my laptop here http://www.malibal.com

They ship to Canada, I'm sure there are others as well. I'd suggest looking into Clevo resellers/customizers, you have a lot more options. Asus and MSI do make good gaming/work laptops as well though

Thanks. I'll check it out.

Other question: Is there a site that you can build the laptop you want and they ship it to after? You pick the parts kind of deal?

Yeah, the one I posted

Also: http://www.powernotebooks.com/
http://www.xoticpc.com/index.html

Quite a few others, but those are some of the more well known ones.

Edit: I'll add that I like the 15" point. It's normally not quite as difficult to lug around, easier to pull out, and unless you are going for top of the top end in video card, like 680m or SLI, you should be able to get a decent one. Mine has a 560m, and I'm gaming on high settings at 1080p. Sometimes SSAO and other crazy settings need to be turned down/off, but for a laptop it kicks ass

Thin_J wrote:
Strangeblades wrote:
McIrishJihad wrote:

SB, I have a feeling you'll be in one of those "less weight, lower specs, no videocard - pick two" territory.

Theres a Sony VAIO i7 that weighs under 4lbs, but has the GeForce 640M and you'd probably be using an external HDD for major storage.

Use the Advanced filtering options to show only stuff with a dedicated GPU, and then you can see the bands of hits based on Weight to filter from there, or filter by the specific mobile video card.

Ho boy. OK then. Anybody got good weight distribution suggestions?

I lugged around a heavy 17 inch for a long time. There really aren't any good options. It's going to get really annoying on occasion no matter what you do.

I could use the workout as well as a debilitating workplace shoulder injury.