DOTA 2 Catch-all

Coyotebd wrote:

Solo'd Rosh as Lycan, Tusk comes in at the last second and grabs Aegis.

But that Tusk was carrying your whole team.

I'm guessing that's sarcasm? Me 15/3/14 vs. Tusk's 8/7/11

Coyotebd wrote:

I'm guessing that's sarcasm? Me 15/3/14 vs. Tusk's 8/7/11

Yes. That tusk was terrible. Still you guys managed to win 4v5

UMOarsman wrote:

Do we do any team games? I've finally mustered up the courage to give Dota 2 a go (ex-LoL player).

Sorry about last night-- You might have to jump on a bit earlier to grab most of us EST guys. Also, consider coyote -- he's on a bit later usually and is newer. Pairing old and new people usually leads to wonky matching results in a non-5 man.

Hope you don't mind me volunteering you Coyote!

Try again later this week to play with me too! I'll try to invite you next time we get started. Though warning: I might be out of rotation this week mostly. We'll see how things with girls go.

Good trolling by the way Cask.

Blisters good but he seems to fall into cruise control farming pretty often --not aggressively like Barash but more of a weird meditation state. Hmm.

No worries, definitely look me up. I've been playing with some guys, one of which I met through GWJers. You'll be able to connect with them as well.

They are all around my level +/- so you should fit in.

It was a good troll. I was all: "What the hell is he talking about?!" then "Maybe I thought I was awesome but really wasn't?" then "No, I did way better then Tusk! What the hell?" then "Oh, I think he was being sarcastic"

I meant Troll Warlord! The knives come out -- accusations fly!

Gotta love people who hang out at a quarter health in the suicide lane when there's an enemy KOTL (Me) nuking them from outside of their vis. Fun times.

OK, so I am seriously considering trying out a MOBA and I am leaning toward DOTA2. How solid is the Goodjer community here? Well, not solid... all goodjer communities are solid. But how active? Everyone ok with another noobster messing it all up for everyone?

I read that they key to enjoying the initial learning curve in any MOBA is having a cool group of people to play with. Aint no better group than GWJ

We're a small group but relatively active and friendly. I see other goodjers on nearly every night. There is a fair amount of skill disparity for some of us though, with some having played since Dota 1. Personally I started playing back in December and I'm closing in on 200 hours according to steam. Oddly I still consider myself a bit of a newb.
If you see me online, feel free to hit me up; I mostly play during weekday evenings.

In the meantime if you're alone with some time, check out purgegamers.com for some beginning guides and play some bot/co-op games to grok the basics.

They are both free, so try them both! I was playing both quite a bit before I moved to no Internet rurlal Ireland.

dibs wrote:

They are both free, so try them both! I was playing both quite a bit before I moved to no Internet rurlal Ireland.

no way, that is far too big a time commitment. I also have no desire to partake in any of the LoL community. Nothing but poison that is

Cobble wrote:

OK, so I am seriously considering trying out a MOBA and I am leaning toward DOTA2. How solid is the Goodjer community here? Well, not solid... all goodjer communities are solid. But how active? Everyone ok with another noobster messing it all up for everyone?

I read that they key to enjoying the initial learning curve in any MOBA is having a cool group of people to play with. Aint no better group than GWJ :)

We definitely have some regular players, but the skill gap between new and experienced players and the resulting matchmaking makes it difficult to group together on a regular basis. But, there are definitely players that will take time to help you get acclimated and there seems to be a trickle of new goodjers coming to the game. I expect there will be a larger influx when the game gets its official release.

I'm the same as Dany, relatively new to the game and happy to group with beginners to help them up.

Has anyone set up an in game GWJ channel? It makes it much easier to see who is on and let new people join. I've tried for a while to finder GWJers unsuccessfully...

I'm new to DOTA as well, so feel free to send an invite my way. Also, check out Awesomenauts - there's a small core group that plays regularly, and the game is an awesome MOBA-ish game for those new to the genre. Very different from DOTA / LOL (side-scrolling vs isometric, quicker, less pressure) - there's definitely room for both in your gaming rotation.

UMOarsman wrote:

I'm new to DOTA as well, so feel free to send an invite my way. Also, check out Awesomenauts - there's a small core group that plays regularly, and the game is an awesome MOBA-ish game for those new to the genre. Very different from DOTA / LOL (side-scrolling vs isometric, quicker, less pressure) - there's definitely room for both in your gaming rotation. :-)

I bought Awesomenauts a month or two ago but haven't gotten around to trying it yet.

I'll hop into a GWJ channel tomorrow when I log in.

There is now a "GWJ" channel on dota2. I echo the sentiments above, there are a bunch that play, at all different intensities and skill levels, but overall the community is good.

If everyone joins/creates the channel GWJ when they join DOTA it'll be easy to group up in game.

played with Fear from Evil Geniuses this morning.

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Nice. Sub 20 minute game. I'm guessing as soon as you killed one enemy hero he had you push and if they attacked piecemeal he destroyed them and kept pushing, but he didn't have you guys push too far.

That's the thing I hate. I played a terrible game as SK last night. I think some people may have watched it. Didn't play well myself but my team was terrible. We were down in the game and had destroyed top1, mid 1 and 2, and bot 1. They kept wanting to push the middle 3rd Tier against a team that was teamfighting better then us and better levelled.

Ya, he was mid, and the team overall just played really well. I watched and ulted into fights, and it just wasn't even close. I was just happy that I played well haha.

Played 4 games or so and I think I have experienced enough to know this game just isn't for me.

Cobble wrote:

Played 4 games or so and I think I have experienced enough to know this game just isn't for me.

Honestly, don't give up yet. MOBAs are a slow burn and tough as nails when you get started. I was miserable with it the first 10 matches or so, but it's now one of my favorite (non-stress relieving) genres. Getting friends to play with you helps tremendously.

I agree. You need some people that will calmly tell you that very basic stuff which will get you in line with 80% of the playing public.

UMOarsman wrote:
Cobble wrote:

Played 4 games or so and I think I have experienced enough to know this game just isn't for me.

Honestly, don't give up yet. MOBAs are a slow burn and tough as nails when you get started. I was miserable with it the first 10 matches or so, but it's now one of my favorite (non-stress relieving) genres. Getting friends to play with you helps tremendously.

Find ussss..... in the GWJ channel!

UMO -- I still want to play with you!

The biggest thing i don't like about this (and all MOBAs i believe) is the Last Hit mechanics. I really don't like not attacking anything, trying to manage my last hit against the creeps while not autoattacking to push the line forward. Its just not fun for me at all. It really feels like a cry to the past. This is going to be hard to explain but I will try. Playing the game doesn't feel like playing the game to me. It feels more like gaming the game. Trying to manipulate systems to get more numbers than the other team. This isn't fun for me.

I would much rather it be more about what you are doing rather than number manipulation. I am not sure if that makes sense because the number manipulation is about what you are doing but i cant put it into words any better than that. If only there were a way to make it feel like I am competing against the other players more directly instead of winning (or losing) because I gamed the systems better(or worse) than they did.

I think that's party of the appeal frankly --- all games are number manipulations, but the degree of separation from core statistics is les sin a moba. With less separation from the design, less opaqueness, it allows for interesting and rapid evolutions of both the individual players play as well as the community.

And that's frnakly what make sit over whelming. The sheer awareness of all the systems and the numbers associated with them can make it overwhelming. The seeming number manipulation seems odd, but once you get over it, you are still playing against the other players.

But before you call it quits, hit us all up, and try rolling with a five man. '

Also -- Jungle Pudge ideas for players that are interested in Pudge. Which isn't me, but still look intriguing.

I think that's party of the appeal frankly --- all games are number manipulations, but the degree of separation from core statistics is les sin a moba. With less separation from the design, less opaqueness, it allows for interesting and rapid evolutions of both the individual players play as well as the community.

And that's frnakly what make sit over whelming. The sheer awareness of all the systems and the numbers associated with them can make it overwhelming. The seeming number manipulation seems odd, but once you get over it, you are still playing against the other players.

But before you call it quits, hit us all up, and try rolling with a five man. '

Also -- Jungle Pudge ideas for players that are interested in Pudge. Which isn't me, but still look intriguing.