DOTA 2 Catch-all

I honestly don't know how they figure it out. And I'm saying this, while trying to be humble because I don't consider myself really good by any means, but the majority of my pub games I am either the best or second best player on my team, so i always knew that WR was not a good metric. I don't think it's going to affect me much, I'm still going to pick what I pick, and play how i play.

It's funny, cask saw my team get DESTROYED last night, and I immediately picked BH because of this so I could feel better about myself.

42nd percentile in Silver. I AM YOUR GOD!

Also, it looks like I've played the most DOTA here. I'm just shy of game 800.

1542 (Platinum) 86% Percentile, 426 - 388 52.33% win rate. Not bad, considering most of it is solo queue in EU. https://dotabuff.com/players/32026134

I don't think it should affect how you play. The key is to have fun. The ratings are secondary.

Now that they have paypal hooked back up, I bought a month worth of Plus access. There's some interesting stuff in there. I can see that my win rate is better in random draft than any other mode. (although, not in the past week) My favourite thing so far is looking at the builds in a match. Comparing skill builds is neat, but even more helpful is seeing when you bought each item. It also clearly indicts those that don't buy enough TPs.

DBR rating over time:
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edit: video, your lower ranking may be due to all the games you've played with me (and some other new players) as we've come up. If DBR is ELO-based, those losses would have counted against you harder and the wins would have counted for you less.

I guess I really should have waited for a more clear resolution to all of this before paying for dotabuff Plus. https://dotabuff.com/pages/2013-01-2...

Dotaholic was so much better for stats, even offering stats that dotabuff puts behind a paywall. Too bad the community didn't get behind it and it died.

I've watched a couple good tutorial videos over the weekend. They were put together by merlini, who I understand was a pro dota player who is now returning to the scene in Dota 2.

The first is an overview of launch settings, console commands and other configuration minutia. There were a lot of great tips, including how to set up key binds for checking the rune spots quickly. I've definitely incorporated a few of his suggestions into my setup.

The second is a comprehensive warding video. Even if you think you know all there is to know about warding, there's probably a few nuggets in here that will help your game. Of course, if you are already somewhat of an expert, it does end up going over some ground you are probably familiar with.

Gosh, stoners in DOTA drive me crazy. They stop moving for minutes at a time, respond slowly, think theyre doing fine.

I got stuck in an All pick with a stoner who was the solo support. Ended up having to support as Razor to make up for it. Game went terribly.

Think I need to take a break for a few days.

Well, when the support doesn't do his job you shouldn't support yourself if you're a carry. Just play even greedier and more self-centric.

liquid wrote:

Well, when the support doesn't do his job you shouldn't support yourself if you're a carry. Just play even greedier and more self-centric.

Ah, I randomed razor -- there were two harder carries on the team.

But perhaps you are right.

See? That's the team worker in you speaking. If it's pubbing and not a premade and people are being dicks you should at least do better in your personal stats, even if you still lose the game. That's at least how I play so I have some consolation feeling that at least I did well in the game and have a positive kdr :).

liquid wrote:

See? That's the team worker in you speaking. If it's pubbing and not a premade and people are being dicks you should at least do better in your personal stats, even if you still lose the game. That's at least how I play so I have some consolation feeling that at least I did well in the game and have a positive kdr :).

Ultimately it's a team game though. If you have a weak teammate, you can still pull out a win if the rest of the team is playing well. And I think we all overestimate how much warding should be exclusively a support activity. If placing a ward saves your life once or allows you to gank once or even gives you enough vision to farm a lane safely, it more than makes up for the cost of the wards and the time spent placing them. The same is true for vision items.

And video, I can definitely understand the urge to step away after a frustrating streak. I've been lucky over the past few days to pub with some extremely friendly, communicative people. I think I commended everyone I played with for a straight 6 games. But, that seemed to stop yesterday. I'm sorry for sticking you guys with modest and lucky for a couple matches. Modest isn't great and lucky is just uncommunicative. I hope we can get back to our own 5-mans soon.

A carry buying wards when competing for last hits with his teammates is very bad, not to mention it puts him behind the enemy carry even more. Sure, warding is not exclusive to supports for the entire game. It is exclusive to them in the early stages, though until you get at least one of your core items and are doing well. Or you random.

I wasn't competing for last hits. I was mostly trying to stay alive.

Your lucky day died with nearly 4000 in the bank. And Had enough for heavy armor and to finish his blood stone. I watched. He had that money for a good ten minutes.

So stoners. They annoy me, mostly because they seem to think it doesn't effect their ability to play, when it clearly does. Then act like disapproving of their play is the real problem.

Christ I sound like Mister Hand.

If you get even minimal value from wards, that 150g is paid off pretty quickly. And if you only have one support, it isn't unreasonable to expect someone else on the team to pitch in.

I bought all the wards, the courier, and the upgrade.

I was the support. Lion just stopped 3 minutes at a time, to smoke up.

Does the cause of your teammate's bad play really make a difference?

Well yes. Different causes have different effects. Some can be over come, some can't.

New people, are bad, but they' re open to suggestion, and tend to be vocal about it up front -- you can picka round it.

Drunk people also are vocal, if not amenable.

Trolls are trolls.

Stoners tend not to be detectable until its too late, and tenable compensation cannot be made. And of course most frustrating, is that they don't see the material dulling their skills, instead blaming the observer for their judgement. The drunk, again, are at least open about their reduced capabilities.

This of course is from personal experience, but I feel like I've had enough to make a fairly sound conclusion..

I have no great problem with what people do on their own, substance wise as long it doesnt hur tpeole. But involving yourself in a highly competitive, team based game that requires quick thinking and movement, while taking a substance that dulls both dexterity in motion and thought.....well that just doesn't make sense.

I played 2 games over the weekend, and learned two very important things in them:

- I hate Drow Ranger.
- I love Vengeful Spirit.

I was also disappointed to find that Workshop for this game is just a way to vote on what you want to pay for. I thought I'd be able to install free user-made customizations, but no such luck. Then I learned about item drops and realized what people meant when they said that DotA 2 was getting TF2 hats. Now I want to play more.

Atomicvideohead wrote:

I have no great problem with what people do on their own, substance wise as long it doesnt hur tpeole. But involving yourself in a highly competitive, team based game that requires quick thinking and movement, while taking a substance that dulls both dexterity in motion and thought.....well that just doesn't make sense.

Thanks for the reasoned response Videohead. The point you bring up reminds me that games like these could really use a "Beer league" queue, for those people or times when you'd like to play a game but not really give your all. How a designer could implement that without it turning into a mess, I've no idea.

I find myself still going to dotabuff on a somewhat daily basis as i go through my bookmarks, and am disappointed every time.

DanyBoy wrote:
Atomicvideohead wrote:

I have no great problem with what people do on their own, substance wise as long it doesnt hur tpeole. But involving yourself in a highly competitive, team based game that requires quick thinking and movement, while taking a substance that dulls both dexterity in motion and thought.....well that just doesn't make sense.

Thanks for the reasoned response Videohead. The point you bring up reminds me that games like these could really use a "Beer league" queue, for those people or times when you'd like to play a game but not really give your all. How a designer could implement that without it turning into a mess, I've no idea.

The matchmaking is supposed to balance that kind of thing out in the long run, I think. And I think the generalization about stoners is probably still a generalization. It's just that much more frustrating to learn that someone's inattention is because they are baked.

Unfortunately, videohead isn't very good at the game, so he ends up with the dregs.

*troll*

Happytime Harry wrote:

I find myself still going to dotabuff on a somewhat daily basis as i go through my bookmarks, and am disappointed every time.

You are not alone. I had a good run this weekend and I wanted to see where my record was now. I was 3 games under .500 at one point, but I wanted to see where I ended up when I finished on Sunday. I think it was 4 under, but can't recall.

Valve thinks I need to give more DOTA2 away. I just got 4 more gift copies. That brings the total up to 9 copies. Hit me up on Steam or add it to your wish list and friend me up.

Going to cross post in deals thread.

I have so many Dota invites that I'm afraid to give away because I know my friends can't handle it.

Troll Warlords Helmet: it doesn't protect this face, or his brain. It does show off his fancy 'do though.

I suddenly own 5 copies of this game. Anyone have any friends that want it?

Grenn wrote:

I suddenly own 5 copies of this game. Anyone have any friends that want it?

Seems they are pretty much making this open to anyone. Most anyone in this thread seems to have 5+ copies at this point.

https://dotabuff.com/pages/enabling-...

not sure how much info this gets you, all i want is basic win/loss, but we will see.