NHL 2013-2014: Islanders sold, Wang stops losing money, on to the next save-all

I missed the beer pouring. Wow.

The helmet taking is kind of funny. Stupid but funny. The beer pouring is downright rude. Pretty easy to find the guy and kick him out, though.

Vector wrote:

The helmet taking is kind of funny.

Eh, I don't see that as funny at all--he had to rip that helmet off the guy's head so that the chin strap snapped off. Not saying the drunk could have done any serious injury, but it definitely wrenched his head/neck back a bit. I know fans like to get into the game, but that's just going overboard.

Ladislav Smid was basically the first young player the Oilers got when they started their post-Pronger rebuild. They just traded him for (unimpressive) prospects and a friend of mine who's an Oilers fan is both incredulous and not all that surprised at the continued incompetence.

CptDomano wrote:
Vector wrote:

The helmet taking is kind of funny.

Eh, I don't see that as funny at all--he had to rip that helmet off the guy's head so that the chin strap snapped off. Not saying the drunk could have done any serious injury, but it definitely wrenched his head/neck back a bit. I know fans like to get into the game, but that's just going overboard.

Helmets come off fairly easily. Can't believe the gal to even attempt it. Remember when a fan tried to steal a stick from the Boston's in the 70s? Mike Milbury beat him with his own shoe.

Roke wrote:

Ladislav Smid was basically the first young player the Oilers got when they started their post-Pronger rebuild. They just traded him for (unimpressive) prospects and a friend of mine who's an Oilers fan is both incredulous and not all that surprised at the continued incompetence.

As a Canuck fan, I can't stop laughing. Oilers hired the worst of the Canucks-Burke executives, then fired him and replaced him with a guy with no managerial experience. 8 year rebuild!

I must admit, I enjoy seeing the Oilers in any kind of turmoil after 3 consecutive #1 picks, I don't even think a team should be allowed 2. I do feel sorry for their fans though.

Outlandish wrote:

I must admit, I enjoy seeing the Oilers in any kind of turmoil after 3 consecutive #1 picks, I don't even think a team should be allowed 2. I do feel sorry for their fans though.

I don't. Most, not all but many, are insufferable. I've had to put up with a lot from Oiler fans I've come to take great enjoyment out of knowing that those jerks are suffering.

Vector wrote:
Outlandish wrote:

I must admit, I enjoy seeing the Oilers in any kind of turmoil after 3 consecutive #1 picks, I don't even think a team should be allowed 2. I do feel sorry for their fans though.

I don't. Most, not all but many, are insufferable. I've had to put up with a lot from Oiler fans I've come to take great enjoyment out of knowing that those jerks are suffering.

Really? Canucks fans of all people should be careful about making generalizations about entire fanbases. Many fans from any fanbase are insufferable. Oiler fans in my experience have actually been among the nicest and most knowledgeable in the NHL.

Either way, Roke pretty much nailed it. This article pretty much sums up my feelings as a slowly lapsing Oilers fan. I mean, it's not like Smid was the be-all and end-all of defencemen, but I don't see how trading him for nothing is a solution in any way, shape or form. Neither is bryzgalov. I was skeptical when McTavish was hired, I was skeptical about his off-season moves, and now I'm convinced that this is just more of the same. I don't think anything is going to change until Kevin Lowe is dragged kicking and screaming from the arena.

I had a large post with many details written out and then my phone reloaded the page. I'll just say that the Oilers fans in the Vancouver area, that I've met, have physically attacked me and been extremely racist to my friends. Among other things. I'm happy when the Oilers fail because I know it makes those pathetic individuals lives a little upset. I know it's petty. I know it's immature.

I approach all fans with the same respect and eagerness to get their perspective on their team.

We've had the same with Buffalo Sabres fans here. Multiple incidents including assaults, along with their pissing on the walls of the bathrooms in our arena for good measure. This in a town that welcomes rival fans with free beer and brats in the parking lot. I've known Buffalo fans for years who are great people, but general opinion in the area is very negative after years of this crap.

imbiginjapan wrote:
AnimeJ wrote:
nihilo wrote:

Kessel is putting on a clinic out there.. that was a hell of goal. Once the highlights are out, check out his second goal against the Oilers tonight.

This is what hockey is all about. That was some beautiful skating and stickwork, pure poetry.

Let's compare and contrast these moments, shall we? :p

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I'd say something like "TIL there are asshole hockey fans", but honestly, the internet disabused me of that notion years ago.

Vector wrote:

I had a large post with many details written out and then my phone reloaded the page. I'll just say that the Oilers fans in the Vancouver area, that I've met, have physically attacked me and been extremely racist to my friends. Among other things. I'm happy when the Oilers fail because I know it makes those pathetic individuals lives a little upset. I know it's petty. I know it's immature.

Sorry you had that experience, vector. I can fully understand why that might give you the perspective you have, and you're fully entitled to some schadenfraude. Hopefully you get to meet some nice Oiler fans to compensate for it.

Stamkos lost an edge while backchecking in what could be a season-ender as his leg crashed into the goal post. Taken away on a stretcher. Man you hate to see stuff like that.

imbiginjapan wrote:

Stamkos lost an edge while backchecking in what could be a season-ender as his leg crashed into the goal post. Taken away on a stretcher. Man you hate to see stuff like that.

I hope he's okay. Still no update from the team though, which is probably a bad sign.

You should update the title of the thread to "Crosby good, except when playing the Blues". Bwahahaha!!!

nihilo wrote:

I hope he's okay. Still no update from the team though, which is probably a bad sign.

He's not okay. He said while on the ice, "it's broken", and Aaron Ward corroborated it on Twitter. Broken tibia, out indefinitely. He'll miss the Olympics.

Sucks for Stamkos. He's one of those superstars that it's impossible to hate.

I've been enjoying Rangers hockey the past two weeks as it seems they've finally acclimated to Vigneault's new system. The icing on the cake was the 5-1 spanking of Pittsburgh. The Rangers look much faster than last year and attack the puck far more aggressively. I like the moves of cutting Asham, Powe, and letting Martin Biron retire. It's given a chance for the Rangers' young hopefuls (Kreider, Miller, Fast, Talbot) to get some ice time and all of them have been contributing well.

Yeah I really hate it when the best players get injured. I mean, I hate to see anyone get injured, but it especially stinks when the guys who are leading the league go down. I hope he has a quick recovery.

nihilo wrote:

The Buffalo Sabres have fired GM Darcy Regier and coach Ron Rolston.

This was pretty expected, if you ask me, given high expectations of Buffalo's owner. He's not going to take dead last in the league, playing terrible hockey. Pat Lafontaine is the new President of Hockey Operations in Buffalo, and he's apparently going to be trying to find a GM as soon as possible. Ted Nolan will be the interim coach of the Sabres.

I'm not going to miss Rolston. Hopefully Nolan will bench John Scott permanently.

Frankly I think the rest of the team needs to go with them. That organization is so damaged at this point.

The Buffalo Sabres have fired GM Darcy Regier and coach Ron Rolston.

This was pretty expected, if you ask me, given high expectations of Buffalo's owner. He's not going to take dead last in the league, playing terrible hockey. Pat Lafontaine is the new President of Hockey Operations in Buffalo, and he's apparently going to be trying to find a GM as soon as possible. Ted Nolan will be the interim coach of the Sabres. Both of those guys look to me like emergency fill-ins while they find more permanent personnel, though Nolan might hold on to the job. Lafontaine is an interesting choice - seems like they're following the Sakic model in Colorado, but Sakic had a lot more grooming before he took responsibilities.

I'm not going to miss Rolston. Hopefully Nolan will bench John Scott permanently.

Ah, you caught me doing my typical instant edits.

Yeah, Buffalo is a real mess right now. It looks to me like they're cleaning house.

I have to imagine that they are going to trade Ryan Miller. Get back a bunch of assets and start over.

Heard the Isles might be a landing spot for Miller.

nihilo wrote:

The Buffalo Sabres have fired GM Darcy Regier and coach Ron Rolston.

This was pretty expected, if you ask me, given high expectations of Buffalo's owner. He's not going to take dead last in the league, playing terrible hockey. Pat Lafontaine is the new President of Hockey Operations in Buffalo, and he's apparently going to be trying to find a GM as soon as possible. Ted Nolan will be the interim coach of the Sabres. Both of those guys look to me like emergency fill-ins while they find more permanent personnel, though Nolan might hold on to the job. Lafontaine is an interesting choice - seems like they're following the Sakic model in Colorado, but Sakic had a lot more grooming before he took responsibilities.

I'm not going to miss Rolston. Hopefully Nolan will bench John Scott permanently.

Lafontaine had worked for the Islanders, so he has some experience. He did leave because he didn't agree with the way Charles Wang and Garth Snow were running the team, though.

Good move by Pegula. Regeir had been making moves to save his job. A bunch of his signings and trades have been flops. Wonder if the Canucks would look to acquire Ehrhoff. The team hasn't been able to score on the PP since he left.

Buffalo never should've gotten rid of Lindy, IMO. Things have only been getting more rotten since then. I'm glad to see them making moves to rebuild but feel bad about the state they're in.

nihilo wrote:

The Buffalo Sabres have fired GM Darcy Regier and coach Ron Rolston.

This was pretty expected, if you ask me, given high expectations of Buffalo's owner. He's not going to take dead last in the league, playing terrible hockey. Pat Lafontaine is the new President of Hockey Operations in Buffalo, and he's apparently going to be trying to find a GM as soon as possible. Ted Nolan will be the interim coach of the Sabres. Both of those guys look to me like emergency fill-ins while they find more permanent personnel, though Nolan might hold on to the job. Lafontaine is an interesting choice - seems like they're following the Sakic model in Colorado, but Sakic had a lot more grooming before he took responsibilities.

I'm not going to miss Rolston. Hopefully Nolan will bench John Scott permanently.

Nolan is going the opposite way. He said that he might bring Kaleta back up.

Word here in Buffalo is that Nolan is temporary, and LaFontaine is here for the long haul. Messier has been floated as a potential GM candidate, based on an interview LaFontiane did during which he said he has a candidate in mind that has won multiple Stanley Cups.

Ruff needed to go. It was time. Regier too, although he made some great trades, including the Vanek for Moulson trade.

TheCounselor wrote:
nihilo wrote:

The Buffalo Sabres have fired GM Darcy Regier and coach Ron Rolston.

This was pretty expected, if you ask me, given high expectations of Buffalo's owner. He's not going to take dead last in the league, playing terrible hockey. Pat Lafontaine is the new President of Hockey Operations in Buffalo, and he's apparently going to be trying to find a GM as soon as possible. Ted Nolan will be the interim coach of the Sabres. Both of those guys look to me like emergency fill-ins while they find more permanent personnel, though Nolan might hold on to the job. Lafontaine is an interesting choice - seems like they're following the Sakic model in Colorado, but Sakic had a lot more grooming before he took responsibilities.

I'm not going to miss Rolston. Hopefully Nolan will bench John Scott permanently.

Nolan is going the opposite way. He said that he might bring Kaleta back up.

Word here in Buffalo is that Nolan is temporary, and LaFontaine is here for the long haul. Messier has been floated as a potential GM candidate, based on an interview LaFontiane did during which he said he has a candidate in mind that has won multiple Stanley Cups.

Ruff needed to go. It was time. Regier too, although he made some great trades, including the Vanek for Moulson trade.

I'm of two minds about Lindy. A part of me thinks it was time and he had had enough. Honestly I do think the state of things was killing him. Another part of me thinks Darcy was using him to cover his ass, and had more to do with the state the team was in at the time (which was why things continued). So yeah, I agree and I don't.

Hejduk, one of the last links of continuity to the glory days of the early Avs (and the Nordiques before that) is retiring. I wish him all the best!

Good to see Kadri get 3 games for the hit on Backstrom, I thought it'd only be 2 since he wasn't a repeat offender. Unfortunately the Wild don't have anyone who can play a particularly physical game, really wish they had someone who could have checked a Leaf into next week in return but more importantly if they'd scored a couple times on the 5 minute major Kadri got for the Granlund hit it would do a lot to help limit this.

Teams need to fear the power play and the Wild's feels like it's been dwindling a bit lately and seems to have a lot of trouble with very aggressive PKs. Passes just aren't quick enough and this is at least the second game where a PK with 4 players standing up hard at the blue line has caused major troubles for zone entry, the Wild don't seem to be able to dump and chase it well enough. Oh well, hopefully Backstrom gets over his almost inevitable concussion soon and Harding can hold up under the pressure of all these games with an unproven backup. I also hope Granlund doesn't end up hurt as well, he didn't look right to me on the bench after that hit.

Outlandish wrote:

Teams need to fear the power play and the Wild's feels like it's been dwindling a bit lately and seems to have a lot of trouble with very aggressive PKs. Passes just aren't quick enough and this is at least the second game where a PK with 4 players standing up hard at the blue line has caused major troubles for zone entry, the Wild don't seem to be able to dump and chase it well enough. Oh well, hopefully Backstrom gets over his almost inevitable concussion soon and Harding can hold up under the pressure of all these games with an unproven backup. I also hope Granlund doesn't end up hurt as well, he didn't look right to me on the bench after that hit.

They have to stop taking notes from the Gophers PP.