NHL 2013-2014: Islanders sold, Wang stops losing money, on to the next save-all

To be fair, there are renovations being done at MSG. They call it, "The Transformation". It actually has it's own website!

Wow, Edmonton's goaltending is atrocious.

So I'm torn about what to watch tonight. I can either watch the Kings/Blues game out at a bar somewhere, or stay home and stream my beloved Avs. The Kings/Blues game has the drama of both teams being as yet undefeated, and also that both teams are fairly high-scoring. On the other hand, the Avs are still undefeated and are playing a team that had their number during the pre-season. Perhaps I'll just watch the Avs game, and then stream the Kings/Blues game afterward, trying to stay on black-out about the final score. Although I suspect that the commentators won't be able to keep their mouths shut about it.

Kings are playing tampa tonight, it's the Sharks that are taking on the Blues.

also, St-Louis' win streak is a bit less impressive considering they're hosting their 5th straight home game, only team left in the league without a single road game

GrandmaFunk wrote:

Kings are playing tampa tonight, it's the Sharks that are taking on the Blues.

also, St-Louis' win streak is a bit less impressive considering they're hosting their 5th straight home game, only team left in the league without a single road game

Dammit, I meant Sharks.

They really dorked the Blues in some ways. While a five game homestand has provided a nice start to the season, it has cost them real money when going head-to-head with the Cardinals in the playoffs. In recent years, they've had more road games to start the season to avoid the conflict.

Jayhawker wrote:

They really dorked the Blues in some ways. While a five game homestand has provided a nice start to the season, it has cost them real money when going head-to-head with the Cardinals in the playoffs. In recent years, they've had more road games to start the season to avoid the conflict.

To avoid the conflict of automatically assuming the Cards are going to be in the playoffs and going deep? ;P

jowner wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

They really dorked the Blues in some ways. While a five game homestand has provided a nice start to the season, it has cost them real money when going head-to-head with the Cardinals in the playoffs. In recent years, they've had more road games to start the season to avoid the conflict.

To avoid the conflict of automatically assuming the Cards are going to be in the playoffs and going deep? ;P

Well, over the last 14 years it has been a safe assumption. They've been in the playoffs 10 times, and as at least as far as the LCS eight times. Once MLB added wildcard teams, it has really increased their odds of making a run.

Worst case scenario, they miss the playoffs and the Blues just have road games to start the season. St. Louis has a nice core of hockey fans, but it is a baseball town through and through. When they are in the playoffs, it dominates everything. They don't have the size of Boston, NY, or LA to maintain their attendance. And Chicago almost never has baseball teams in the playoffs.

I'd say Philadelphia and Detroit has similar situations, but neither has teams in the playoffs nearly as often as the Cardinals, despite recent success.

they actually moved tonights game in detroit back half hour due to the tigers playoffs.... ofcourse tigers and wings are owned by the same person....

FSeven wrote:

To be fair, there are renovations being done at MSG. They call it, "The Transformation". It actually has it's own website!

But who wants those bridges?

6-0-0. Not a bad start, Avalanche. Not at all.

The Rangers looked like a whole new team those last 2 periods last night. Of course it was against a team that is also having a tough time, but you've got to start somewhere. Maybe Lundqvist will get out of his own head now.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

6-1-0. Not a bad start, Avalanche. Not a all.

You are welcome

So the Avs beat the Pens in a low-scoring but exciting game to watch. I'm a little stunned, as I was very sure that tonight would be an Avs loss. Given how well they played (especially Giggy), I would have actually been okay with a loss to what is clearly a higher echelon team. It's still very early days, and the possibility of a tailspin definitely exists, but I'm starting to think that the cries of "fluke" should start dying down, and people start looking at the Avs a bit more seriously.

What a pleasant change that will be!

Phil "the Phil" Kessel, ladies and gentlemen, with the hat trick against the Ducks. He woke his team up and reminded them that they were indeed supposed to be playing a hockey game tonight.

First period was really really bad (2 shots for the Leafs.. 2), but the second and third were good - once Kessel got the team going by scoring some pretty excellent goals. Also, Anaheim couldn't score on a 5 on 3 powerplay, which helped build momentum.

I hope this means Toronto is breaking out of their funk of the last couple games and when they face Columbus on Friday they'll play the whole 60 minutes.

The dream of every hockey fan: To watch their team play the full 60 minutes. Outside of the playoffs it's that bit of pure brilliance that reminds us that yes, every team is capable at this level of the game. It's all about how well they can put it together this time.

Sens

Loui Erikson my third round pick ;_:

jowner wrote:

Loui Erikson my third round pick ;_:

I am so pissed right now. A bottom skimming player on a bottom skimming team takes him out the day before the Bruins play one of the toughest teams in the league. There was nothing accidental in that play either.

imbiginjapan wrote:
jowner wrote:

Loui Erikson my third round pick ;_:

I am so pissed right now. A bottom skimming player on a bottom skimming team takes him out the day before the Bruins play one of the toughest teams in the league. There was nothing accidental in that play either.

My frustration is that I post the same thing in my hockey pool thread and a guy responds `hes not a repeat offender, he will get 5 but deserves more'.

Well give him f*cking more than 5 then. Why do you have to wait for a plug to turn into Cooke before you whack him with a huge suspension.

Here's a gif of the hit:
IMAGE(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/3447333/cheapshot.gif)

Looks to me like Scott had every chance to hit Erikson on the shoulder and laid a check on his head instead. It's a dirty hit.

I didn't listen to the Milbury rant (I cannot stand him), but the thing about John Scott is that he has no place in an NHL hockey game. When you watch him on the ice, he can't keep up with guys around him. He's a big body and he's willing to drop the gloves, that's all. Guys like that aren't just liabilities to their own teams when they're on the ice - their lack of skating ability means they are more likely to land dirty hits, simply because otherwise they'd hardly make contact at all.

And I say this with Colton Orr and Frazer McLaren on the Leafs. At least those two can at least skate fast enough to deliver a hit.

nihilo wrote:

I didn't listen to the Milbury rant (I cannot stand him), but the thing about John Scott is that he has no place in an NHL hockey game. When you watch him on the ice, he can't keep up with guys around him. He's a big body and he's willing to drop the gloves, that's all. Guys like that aren't just liabilities to their own teams when they're on the ice - their lack of skating ability means they are more likely to land dirty hits, simply because otherwise they'd hardly make contact at all.

That's basically what Milbury said, in addition to reaming out Rolston for putting Scott on the ice instead of a goal-scorer when the game was still in reach. Milbury could be seen as a bit of a hypocrite given his past but maybe his mentality has actually evolved over the years, I dunno.

Milbury rant is actually pretty good especially considering its him.

I'd go one further than reaming out the coach though. Fine the Sabres 100k. That way the owner is calling the GM/Coach the next day asking who the f*ck John Scott is and why hes on the ice costing him 100k.

If the NHL is actually serious about getting that sh*t out of the game they should actually get serious about it and start whacking people involved hard.

edit:

I never understood the suspend the guy the length of the injury logic either. It makes sense on the surface but you have to remember these thugs are fringe NHL players who will do anything to get a contract and a job.

If teams still employ thugs guess what... guys are going to keep being thugs. Start hitting the owners and that will threaten the Coachs and GMs jobs and you will see these guys disappear quick time.

jowner wrote:

Milbury rant is actually pretty good especially considering its him.

I'd go one further than reaming out the coach though. Fine the Sabres 100k. That way the owner is calling the GM/Coach the next day asking who the f*ck John Scott is and why hes on the ice costing him 100k.

If the NHL is actually serious about getting that sh*t out of the game they should actually get serious about it and start whacking people involved hard.

edit:

I never understood the suspend the guy the length of the injury logic either. It makes sense on the surface but you have to remember these thugs are fringe NHL players who will do anything to get a contract and a job.

If teams still employ thugs guess what... guys are going to keep being thugs. Start hitting the owners and that will threaten the Coachs and GMs jobs and you will see these guys disappear quick time.

+1. Could not agree more.

FSeven wrote:
Coldstream wrote:

This Ducks/Rangers game is just getting uncomfortable. I wanted to the Ducks to win, but it's 5-0, not even at the halfway point, and the Rangers haven't pulled Lundquist. Not clear what's going on, but not cool.

I've been a Ranger fan since the early 80's and I can honestly say that I don't remember a time when the Rangers played as bad as this. The defense is, well, there is no defense. Ryan McDonagh has looked the worst I've ever seen him. Lundqvist looks lost. Brad Richards is actually looking like the best player on the team. AV even said it himself when asked if something could be done to simplify his system for the players. He said "making a tape to tape pass has nothing to do with the system" and he's right. His system is based around passing and the Rangers can't string together 3 consecutive passes and have difficulty stringing together 2.

Watching the Kings game and how good the Rangers looked, I have a hard time thinking that it's the system. The Kings are on par with the Sharks and Ducks and the Rangers beat them soundly. There was a distinct lack of effort in the Sharks and Ducks games.

Personally I'd like Sather to be fired at some point. Sure he brought us a cup 20 years ago but he's done nothing since. He made his career riding the wave of that old Edmonton crop of players. After they all retired his deficiencies as a GM have been on display for the world to see yet Dolan keeps him around. He has to go. We need someone that can build a winner without using players that played in Edmonton with Gretzky.

If you are referring to Sather winning a cup with the Rangers, that's not true. It was coach Mike Keenan and GM Neil Smith. As for the Rangers, I am getting tired of Sather as well. It's also ridiculous that they play their first home game on their 10th game regardless MSG doing their renovation or not. One of the only things I am happy about is that Dolan doesn't stick his nose into the Rangers business as much as he does with the Knicks.

whispa wrote:
FSeven wrote:
Coldstream wrote:

This Ducks/Rangers game is just getting uncomfortable. I wanted to the Ducks to win, but it's 5-0, not even at the halfway point, and the Rangers haven't pulled Lundquist. Not clear what's going on, but not cool.

I've been a Ranger fan since the early 80's and I can honestly say that I don't remember a time when the Rangers played as bad as this. The defense is, well, there is no defense. Ryan McDonagh has looked the worst I've ever seen him. Lundqvist looks lost. Brad Richards is actually looking like the best player on the team. AV even said it himself when asked if something could be done to simplify his system for the players. He said "making a tape to tape pass has nothing to do with the system" and he's right. His system is based around passing and the Rangers can't string together 3 consecutive passes and have difficulty stringing together 2.

Watching the Kings game and how good the Rangers looked, I have a hard time thinking that it's the system. The Kings are on par with the Sharks and Ducks and the Rangers beat them soundly. There was a distinct lack of effort in the Sharks and Ducks games.

Personally I'd like Sather to be fired at some point. Sure he brought us a cup 20 years ago but he's done nothing since. He made his career riding the wave of that old Edmonton crop of players. After they all retired his deficiencies as a GM have been on display for the world to see yet Dolan keeps him around. He has to go. We need someone that can build a winner without using players that played in Edmonton with Gretzky.

If you are referring to Sather winning a cup with the Rangers, that's not true. It was coach Mike Keenan and GM Neil Smith. As for the Rangers, I am getting tired of Sather as well. It's also ridiculous that they play their first home game on their 10th game regardless MSG doing their renovation or not. One of the only things I am happy about is that Dolan doesn't stick his nose into the Rangers business as much as he does with the Knicks.

Yeah, the '94 Rangers team was filled with ex-Oilers (Messier, Lowe, Anderson, MacTavish, Tikkanen, and Beukeboom) but Sather was still the Oilers GM at the time.

Vigneault does have a very complicated defensive system. He also either coached a lot of the Canucks guys in the AHL or had warhorses willing to do anything for the team (Sedins, Salo, and Linden). Completely different situation for him with the Rangers. Not sure what the make-up of the team is actually supposed to be. Sather seems to like shuffling the forwards.

We are going to have to change a title to this thread to "When will my Wings win a game...." if it keeps going this way.

Fastmav347 wrote:

We are going to have to change a title to this thread to "When will my Wings win a game...." if it keeps going this way.

I knew there was a reason I had a warm fuzzy.

Kessel is putting on a clinic out there.. that was a hell of goal. Once the highlights are out, check out his second goal against the Oilers tonight.

edit: now with gif:
IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/QDtiL0H.gif)