I can't count the reasons I should stay, One by one they all just fade away. Community S6! #andamovie

Gaald wrote:
PaladinTom wrote:

Dean Pelton's rap had me and my family crying. We backed it up and watched it again before the rest of the episode.

The rap was great, but his reaction to it once he was done was even better.

We backed up to see Britta's reaction again, which seemed to be the pure and honest shock of the actress herself.

Here's the clip.

Yonder wrote:

We backed up to see Britta's reaction again, which seemed to be the pure and honest shock of the actress herself.

Here's the clip.

Same exact thought. Jim Rash, Rap Genius, scaring all the childen'

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I hear there might be some dragons tonight.

Sadly will have to catch it either really late tonight or tomorrow morning. Who schedules TV shows during March Madness?

Through an elaborate chain of events, I ended up having a D&D character named "Lavernica," so I'm really hopeful her namesake makes a return appearance tonight.

Fantastic episode last night. Great guest star. Nice ending, side-stepping the predictable "Big Confrontation."

The interrogation scene KILLED me. One of the finest moments of the season, in my opinion, but yes, an amazing episode all around.

So Mike from breaking bad kills it again.

Great episode...

Watched it with my wife, and realized she fundamentally hates D&D. I used to think she just didn't give it a chance, or try to understand how it works. As soon as Abed started into the story she was just so offput by it.

I used to think that it just hadn't been introduced properly, but I have now given up. I tried relating the story telling method to books... but she says when she is consuming content like that she is never pretending to be the characters. Which I understand, but it seems to be that fundamental disconnect which cannot be breached. *sigh*

It was pretty great, though obviously not as good as the original, which is a bonafide classic. Abed having "a few notes" on the surrounding area hit pretty close to home for me. It must be said, though, that Lavernica is way cooler than Fibrosis.

A lot of invisible dicks this episode:

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HAhahahahaha. The Dean was so amazing because he got so INTO it...

Certainly not as good as the first DnD episode, but it was pretty damn good 2nd attempt. The moments with the Dean were hilarious. The singing while flying on the spiders was pretty fantastic as well. LOL

So much good stuff.

2nd Edition?

REALLY ABED? 2ND EDITION?!

That was a great episode, but I suspect I enjoyed it more than my wife.

I loved seeing Fa...bulous Neil in the hallway behind Jeff while Jeff was talking about him.

manta173 wrote:

Great episode...

Watched it with my wife, and realized she fundamentally hates D&D. I used to think she just didn't give it a chance, or try to understand how it works. As soon as Abed started into the story she was just so offput by it.

I used to think that it just hadn't been introduced properly, but I have now given up. I tried relating the story telling method to books... but she says when she is consuming content like that she is never pretending to be the characters. Which I understand, but it seems to be that fundamental disconnect which cannot be breached. *sigh*

Abed's initial story was super old-school, very trad. The DM comes up with the story and the players have to follow it. Some people still do play that way but so many games over the past 20 years facilitate actual character-driven campaigns.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

2nd Edition?

REALLY ABED? 2ND EDITION?!

That was a great episode, but I suspect I enjoyed it more than my wife.

I loved seeing Fa...bulous Neil in the hallway behind Jeff while Jeff was talking about him.

manta173 wrote:

Great episode...

Watched it with my wife, and realized she fundamentally hates D&D. I used to think she just didn't give it a chance, or try to understand how it works. As soon as Abed started into the story she was just so offput by it.

I used to think that it just hadn't been introduced properly, but I have now given up. I tried relating the story telling method to books... but she says when she is consuming content like that she is never pretending to be the characters. Which I understand, but it seems to be that fundamental disconnect which cannot be breached. *sigh*

Abed's initial story was super old-school, very trad. The DM comes up with the story and the players have to follow it. Some people still do play that way but so many games over the past 20 years facilitate actual character-driven campaigns.

And they now have these new computing machines that run specialized programs that come up with the story and keep track of the character sheets and dice and everything...

You can play as a troll (Chan) in d&d?

mooosicle wrote:

You can play as a troll (Chan) in d&d?

By default in 2nd Edition, no. In addition, in no version of D&D does the dungeon master do all the die rolls.

Doesn't mean you can't. Seems like in both episodes that they simply show up with zero prep and Abed's taken care of everything. A fair enough solution in this circumstance so they can just play. Getting Jeff to pretend to buy a pegasus is probably the most you can hope for in terms of engagement. I doubt he'd be bothered enough to know what to roll or what his rolls mean in game terms.

McChuck wrote:

Doesn't mean you can't. Seems like in both episodes that they simply show up with zero prep and Abed's taken care of everything. A fair enough solution in this circumstance so they can just play. Getting Jeff to pretend to buy a pegasus is probably the most you can hope for in terms of engagement. I doubt he'd be bothered enough to know what to roll or what his rolls mean in game terms.

Also: it's simplest in presentation/storytelling terms. As grognardy as some accurate mechanics could be, I think back to table talk and dice rolls in my most recent D&D game, and exciting TV it would not make. I realize it's not the main point Quentin's making, but it stands to reason all the same.

RSPaulette wrote:
McChuck wrote:

Doesn't mean you can't. Seems like in both episodes that they simply show up with zero prep and Abed's taken care of everything. A fair enough solution in this circumstance so they can just play. Getting Jeff to pretend to buy a pegasus is probably the most you can hope for in terms of engagement. I doubt he'd be bothered enough to know what to roll or what his rolls mean in game terms.

Also: it's simplest in presentation/storytelling terms. As grognardy as some accurate mechanics could be, I think back to table talk and dice rolls in my most recent D&D game, and exciting TV it would not make. I realize it's not the main point Quentin's making, but it stands to reason all the same.

What I learned in all the years I studied acting, theater, movies, storytelling, scriptwriting, directing (but mostly acting), for stage and film you take what works and throw out the rest. For the people who put together that episode of Community, it meant letting Abed do all the dice rolling. It totally worked for me, it had the feel of an epic and absurd night of role playing that kept me as a viewer engaged and laughing.

Unfortunately some people get so caught up in the details they let the incorrect minutia ruin the overall experience. It's a shame.

Also, Abed seems like enough of a control freak he might just do all the rolling regardless of the rules.

Although Spencer, Harmontown's DM/Harmon's assistant/Annie's brother, does all the rolling as well. I always figured it was to simplify things for people who didn't have a clue how to play (in Htown and Community, both).

I hope no one is suggesting that I felt like they made a mistake. I was just pointing out to mooosicle that they fudge the rules for entertainment value.

Gaald wrote:

Unfortunately some people get so caught up in the details they let the incorrect minutia ruin the overall experience. It's a shame.

Yes. They are called nerds.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

2nd Edition?

REALLY ABED? 2ND EDITION?!

That was a great episode, but I suspect I enjoyed it more than my wife.

I loved seeing Fa...bulous Neil in the hallway behind Jeff while Jeff was talking about him.

manta173 wrote:

Great episode...

Watched it with my wife, and realized she fundamentally hates D&D. I used to think she just didn't give it a chance, or try to understand how it works. As soon as Abed started into the story she was just so offput by it.

I used to think that it just hadn't been introduced properly, but I have now given up. I tried relating the story telling method to books... but she says when she is consuming content like that she is never pretending to be the characters. Which I understand, but it seems to be that fundamental disconnect which cannot be breached. *sigh*

Abed's initial story was super old-school, very trad. The DM comes up with the story and the players have to follow it. Some people still do play that way but so many games over the past 20 years facilitate actual character-driven campaigns.

Which would make my wife even less interested I think... lol

manta173 wrote:

Which would make my wife even less interested I think... lol

The interesting bit is how no one ever plays along.
Except Annie/Hector the Well Endowed.
That wo/man gets stuff done.

I don't know. Jeff yelled "Cleave!" with intensity he rarely shows.

manta173 wrote:

Which would make my wife even less interested I think... lol

The only RPG I've ever played with my wife is Fiasco; it's about as non-trad an RPG you can find.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
manta173 wrote:

Which would make my wife even less interested I think... lol

The only RPG I've ever played with my wife is Fiasco; it's about as non-trad an RPG you can find.

Yeah it's not the theme alone... it's the very idea of thinking as if you were someone else, or just trying to determine what a character would do in a certain situation.