Minecraft Multiplayer: GWJ World

VeggiePirate wrote:

If it helps anyone with the large-biomes decision, you can see an example on our map. The downsides have already been discussed, but they also give the world a more "realistic" feel (if there is such a thing in Minecraft). With how much you guys love building rail systems, that seems like a bit of a win.

http://dysnomia.org:8123

Ah that's not actually as big as I thought they would be. Seems cool

Shawnosaurus wrote:
VeggiePirate wrote:

If it helps anyone with the large-biomes decision, you can see an example on our map. The downsides have already been discussed, but they also give the world a more "realistic" feel (if there is such a thing in Minecraft). With how much you guys love building rail systems, that seems like a bit of a win.

http://dysnomia.org:8123

Ah that's not actually as big as I thought they would be. Seems cool :)

No, but it still takes a bit of planning an "expedition" for us to reach a jungle. Yeah, it's pretty fun.

Orphu wrote:

Yeah, it's mainly the map renderer. But, honestly that's not such a big deal either. It renders every hour now, but if it gets too bad we just bring down the frequency. It also affects backups. But both of those more a function of how spread out players are. If more regions are being changed, more data needs to be re-rendered and backed up.

I think mcmap might not have much life left in it. I'll probably switch over to just Overviewer in the future. You can do all sorts of cool overlays with overviewer. I saw one neat one that mapped out rail systems (excluding mines, mostly)

OK so its just a problem with the map. I was thinking it might be a hardware limitation of some kind, but its nice to know the server isn't going to melt down if I go to far in any one direction.

Poll is at 17-10, in favor of large biomes. Last response was at 4:07 PM EST Yesterday (2-9). I don't see any reason to stop collecting responses yet.

I logged into the server and felt a bit lost as to what to do. I didn't want to mess up anyone's vista, so I mostly wandered around for a bit.
Also, if I accidentally left a creeper in the rail tunnel, I am terribly sorry. I was scared.

Is it safe to assume I could just wander off a ways and start digging/building?

yup!

I'm not too concerned about biome size. Given that my usual Minecraft experience is to log into a new world and build my little log cabin. Then, just when I feel good about it I look around and realize that everyone else has built their obsidian death fortresses in the same time.

tanstaafl wrote:

I'm not too concerned about biome size. Given that my usual Minecraft experience is to log into a new world and build my little log cabin. Then, just when I feel good about it I look around and realize that everyone else has built their obsidian death fortresses in the same time.

Don't feel bad.
I've been doing the "gather wood, make tools, gather stone, hope for coal, dig a hole in the side of a mountain for your first night" thing over and over.

Then I think "ooh! I'll go caving!" and about 10 minutes in realize I have no food. Blarg. Ok, back to the surface. Kill all the grass. Start a crummy little "farm". Realize how slow that's going to be. Kill all the pigs I can find. And chickens. Think "Why do we have to have hunger? I wish I could turn just that off. None of the let's plays I have watched have them. "

Oh, then once i have a ton of iron and coal and stone, I think "I know, let's make a new world! I just thought of a fun seed to use! I'll use "Rincewind"/"Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"/"Superfun" whatever.

Then it starts again.

I've never found diamonds.

My son is a neverending font of MC wisdom, though. Any time I need to know the recipe for something, he knows them all. Durned kids these days.

duckilama wrote:
tanstaafl wrote:

I'm not too concerned about biome size. Given that my usual Minecraft experience is to log into a new world and build my little log cabin. Then, just when I feel good about it I look around and realize that everyone else has built their obsidian death fortresses in the same time.

Don't feel bad.
I've been doing the "gather wood, make tools, gather stone, hope for coal, dig a hole in the side of a mountain for your first night" thing over and over.

Then I think "ooh! I'll go caving!" and about 10 minutes in realize I have no food. Blarg. Ok, back to the surface. Kill all the grass. Start a crummy little "farm". Realize how slow that's going to be. Kill all the pigs I can find. And chickens. Think "Why do we have to have hunger? I wish I could turn just that off. None of the let's plays I have watched have them. "

Oh, then once i have a ton of iron and coal and stone, I think "I know, let's make a new world! I just thought of a fun seed to use! I'll use "Rincewind"/"Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"/"Superfun" whatever.

Then it starts again.

I've never found diamonds.

My son is a neverending font of MC wisdom, though. Any time I need to know the recipe for something, he knows them all. Durned kids these days.

This makes me feel less intimidated with my little cobblestone castles. Mind if I drop by sometime? My minecraft name should be the same as the one on the forums.

duckilama wrote:
tanstaafl wrote:

I'm not too concerned about biome size. Given that my usual Minecraft experience is to log into a new world and build my little log cabin. Then, just when I feel good about it I look around and realize that everyone else has built their obsidian death fortresses in the same time.

Don't feel bad.
I've been doing the "gather wood, make tools, gather stone, hope for coal, dig a hole in the side of a mountain for your first night" thing over and over.

Then I think "ooh! I'll go caving!" and about 10 minutes in realize I have no food. Blarg. Ok, back to the surface. Kill all the grass. Start a crummy little "farm". Realize how slow that's going to be. Kill all the pigs I can find. And chickens. Think "Why do we have to have hunger? I wish I could turn just that off. None of the let's plays I have watched have them. "

Oh, then once i have a ton of iron and coal and stone, I think "I know, let's make a new world! I just thought of a fun seed to use! I'll use "Rincewind"/"Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"/"Superfun" whatever.

Then it starts again.

I've never found diamonds.

My son is a neverending font of MC wisdom, though. Any time I need to know the recipe for something, he knows them all. Durned kids these days.

I'm essentially the same way except I tend to stop right around the point of finding a little gold or redstone and then getting distracted by something shiny. I think I have built one portal to the nether and found 6 diamonds total.

My wife just discovered the fun of playing in creative mode on a peaceful survival server. We're having fun building up a village and messing with the NPCs.

I think we should hold off any resets until we can properly manage the spawn protected area. Last reset, we had grands to build a spawn that went on permanent hold because no one could build there.

Woohoo! Minecraft: Pi Edition shipped.

I know what I'm doing tonight.

Are RP's cheap enough that one could build a minecraft dedicated handheld?

Wait, I should mail that to myself, then pitch it to Mojang.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

I think we should hold off any resets until we can properly manage the spawn protected area. Last reset, we had grands to build a spawn that went on permanent hold because no one could build there.

This was fixed a few patches ago. You can turn off spawn protection now, and I think we did.

OMG, the world I started with seed "Rincewind", I actually found diamonds.
And then I found an abandoned mine, but was too scared to lose my stuff, so I made my son go in with me.
He proceeded to run around like a monkey on meth grabbing all the chests and not following my methodology for not getting lost.
Had to tell him to quit running ahead and clearing out the chests, grr!

I guess that's the price of hired protection.

Also, the abandoned mine is right next to a swamp, so my base has so many bad noises from slimes ALL THE TIME! I might move it to Bukkit and just turn off slimes.

Had fun on the GWJ server last night helping Aries make a tunnel. Saw some really amazing ravines. I think I'll try to find my way out NorthEast(I think) again and set up a little home.

Is there a way to make the Map be top down? That orthogonal view really screws with my sense of direction.

There might be, in a dropdown box, if you search around for it. I at least remember the classic map viewer having something like that.

So I decided to screw around on single player with large biomes for a bit. There's still problems with the generation. Holes get generated easily, square ones. Sometimes there's nothing in them, sometimes the game makes up for it and makes huge deep lakes... The biomes don't always come together right, and have the old problem of a very easily divided line that will just start up a new biome on the side of it.

The world does seem larger, in comparison. When you have to walk 10 minutes to get to the next biome because you want a sheep, or vines or whatever, it does make it a trek for sure. Just not sure I'd want the whole next world to be that way. (My 2c)

Aendiev wrote:

There might be, in a dropdown box, if you search around for it. I at least remember the classic map viewer having something like that.

Not that I can find. Maybe there's a URL parameter you can give it, but I don't know what it is.

Also, how do I "claim" land? Is it just drop a sign and everyone's on the honor system?
How much land mass is "allowed"?
Are there any rules or conventions regarding roads/transit appearances/styles?

I know we'll be resetting sometime "soon", but I just would like to try building something out in the boonies.

My procedure has always been to look at the night mode on the map, pick a distant spot with no torches, and set up shop there.

Signs are polite, think of what your neighbors will see before you build giant cobblestone walls or skybridges, and generally be nice.

Diamonds are at levels 10-16.
Dig way down, or go caving and take every down opportunity you can.
Take a couple of water buckets, and lots of torches.

I think I've got a nice spot, I just don't want to take up too much land/space.
I'll start small and expand if needed. I'm pretty sure it's far away from anyone. I'll take a trek out there today and look around to see what view distance is like and make sure I can't see anyone.

To claim land is a simple process:

1. Go to the Surveyor's Office in spawntown.

2. Request form 551-a. This will be a $5 dollar fee.

3. After a brief 4 to 6 week wait, the form will arrive in the mail.

4. You'll need to hire a bonded survey company to provide the proper documentation outlining the borders of the land. Roughly $300.

5. Submit an environmental impact study with the GWJ EPA. Limited comment size prevents me from going over the process to do this.

6. Go to the Agriculture office and file the 551-a form, with survey and environmental impact documentation.

7. Proceed to sheriff's office for fingerprinting.

8. Response should arrive via certified mail in 6 months.

What's the exchange rate between Gravel and Dollars? I may be a millionaire and not know it.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:

To claim land is a simple process:

Responses like this really annoy me. I mean seriously? This is how you spend your time? You go through the effort to enumerate the necessary steps and then you bungle the last one:

8. Response should arrive via certified mail in 6 months from the date the application was processed at the Agriculture Office.

And yes, we are backlogged at the moment. The good news is that thanks to recent budget-cuts we have been forced to begin expediting certain requests before the stack collapses and prevents access to the restroom door again.

I thought it was implied. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Rezzy wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

To claim land is a simple process:

Responses like this really annoy me. I mean seriously? This is how you spend your time? You go through the effort to enumerate the necessary steps and then you bungle the last one:

8. Response should arrive via certified mail in 6 months from the date the application was processed at the Agriculture Office.

And yes, we are backlogged at the moment. The good news is that thanks to recent budget-cuts we have been forced to begin expediting certain requests before the stack collapses and prevents access to the restroom door again.

Guys, I can't process this paperwork any faster. Maybe if you finally hired some help, but no. "Budget cuts, budget cuts, budget cuts, wah."

As an Oklahoma native I say do it Sooner style.

Actually, the way to claim a land mass is to find the desert closest to Q-Stone's build, and strip-mine the desert to make glass. The fill his buildings' insides with glass blocks, just to rub it in.

(Then go build where you want, mindful of others who are close by. The nighttime torch trick is a fair one.)