I'm in two minds about whether I would even want to start with anything other than the original backers ship. I think it will add more to it if I have to work towards something, rather than just buying it up front. But then, it's obviously more to lose - so back to that 'manning up' I mentioned before 
My original backer's ship has a free lifetime warranty. That seems a handy thing.
"Maq backed into an asteroid"
"Maq backed into an asteroid"
"Maq backed into an asteroid"
"Maq flew head first into an asteroid"
So, joystick or no joystick? If joystick, which?
For me it's definitely joystick. You can't fly without a joystick, that's just crazy. Wonder if there are any shiny new joysticks out there I should look into or if I should stick with the old standby, my MS Sidewinder. I'm not sure I'm comfortable flying my nice new ships with a 15 year old joystick ;).
So, joystick or no joystick? If joystick, which?
For me it's definitely joystick. You can't fly without a joystick, that's just crazy. Wonder if there are any shiny new joysticks out there I should look into or if I should stick with the old standby, my MS Sidewinder. I'm not sure I'm comfortable flying my nice new ships with a 15 year old joystick ;).
Is it the force feedback sidewinder? That was easily my favorite joystick I ever owned. Next to the old Gravis three button joystick I used:
I always like the resistance that joystick had with it as it felt like I had extreme precision. I've never been able to find a joystick that was comparable in terms of resistance--all other joysticks seem a bit too floaty for me.
I'm currently running with a Thrustmaster Hotas X now though and it doesn't seem too bad. It takes some getting used to if you're used to having the throttle on the joystick itself, but it works fine for me and the extra buttons are nice.
I have a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro which serves me well enough.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Extre...
I had a Gravis Advanced back in the day, it had two buttons on top!! Seriously though, I loved that joystick.
Definitely joystick. I'll be using my Thrustmaster Warthog and Saitek rudder pedals.
This shot is before my Obutto R3volution upgrade.
Holy shit, Mantis! That....is....amazing.
So is that what...4 monitors? How the hell does that even all hook up?
Oh my...
That's even too cool to be jealous of... just has to be admired.
Sadly, with my current gaming predicament, I'll be restricted to 360 controller, but pretty much every demo I've seen has used one, so I can only presume that it will work just fine.
Actually, I'm starting to wonder if a 360 controller might work even better then a joystick.
Actually, I'm starting to wonder if a 360 controller might work even better then a joystick.
You know you just broke LM's heart with this statement, right?
So is that what...4 monitors? How the hell does that even all hook up?
Yeah, four monitors using three video cards at that time. The bottom screen is a touchscreen running a 3rd party program to simulate the cockpit controls. The game shown, A-10c, has a lot of screen configurability through the use of Lua config files. The DCS engine it runs on is basically a special case though. For most things I run triplescreen, assuming the FOV works. A lot of games don't have three discrete frustrums or viewports so the edges get really distorted. Hopefully Star Citizen has proper support, although a high res Oculus Rift may be a better solution.
You think that's bad, I'm about to blow a bunch of minds: I actually liked the mouse flight from Freelancer and hope it's an option in this game as well.
billybob476 wrote:Actually, I'm starting to wonder if a 360 controller might work even better then a joystick.
You know you just broke LM's heart with this statement, right?
I'm a life taker and a heart breaker! Seriously though, I'm hitting this with my joystick unless I hear compelling evidence that a different setup works better. I suspect that they'd have to optimize the experience for gamepads since my suspicion is more people have 360 controllers then traditional joysticks these days.
Hopefully Star Citizen has proper support, although a high res Oculus Rift may be a better solution.
This is what I'm counting on. While 4 monitors including 1 touchscreen is seriously awesome, the hardware + video cards is a big hurdle. Strapping on one high-res headset is much more appealing personally. I am glad that the Oculus that's out now for devs is getting plenty of testing. It should make the 1.0 retail version a much higher quality than you'd see otherwise.
I'll still want the badass joystick, throttle and pedals though.
Billybob, I think they are running the game primarily with 360 gamepads in mind. Its what they seem to use internally for day to day stuff, though I imagine their joystick support will be much better than say, Planetside 2.
Definitely joystick. I'll be using my Thrustmaster Warthog and Saitek rudder pedals.
This shot is before my Obutto R3volution upgrade.
I'll be in my bunk...
Just give me a direct neural interface, and I'll be happy.
I'll be in my bunk...
Oh, you should see the new cockpit version. Here's a shot just after I got it set up, so pardon the mess, it was a ton of work to pull the old desk out and deal with all the cabling and peripherals. The Obutto rig makes it much easier to switch between driving and flying.
Veloxi wrote:I'll be in my bunk...
Oh, you should see the new cockpit version. Here's a shot just after I got it set up, so pardon the mess, it was a ton of work to pull the old desk out and deal with all the cabling and peripherals. The Obutto rig makes it much easier to switch between driving and flying.
The really crazy bit is that's the same rig he uses on our Fantasy Grounds D&D campaign nights. Too bad FGII doesn't have multimon support!
The really crazy bit is that's the same rig he uses on our Fantasy Grounds D&D campaign nights. Too bad FGII doesn't have multimon support!
And I was all set to ask whether he was in four campaigns that met at the same time. 
There's a really badass argument for developing and playing this game with a 360 controller in mind for primary control and that argument IS the Occulus Rift.
Sit, stand, turn, puke guts out after crashind and spinning through space....all while holding 360 controller. No hunting for mouse, keyboard, sticks, etc across your desk while being immersed in a 3D virtual world via the Occulus Rift.
First time i flew with a 360 controller instead of sticks was arma 2, but boy oh boy am i sold now. No more finiky and expensive and cumbersome sticks setups where i have to switch back n forth for on foot and flight. The 360 controller does it all just as well.
I'm an old school flight sim fanatic but i'm sold on the 360 controller for games where there's more than JUST realistic sim flight.
Oh, you should see the new cockpit version. Here's a shot just after I got it set up, so pardon the mess, it was a ton of work to pull the old desk out and deal with all the cabling and peripherals. The Obutto rig makes it much easier to switch between driving and flying.
What's holding up the monitors?
LiquidMantis wrote:Oh, you should see the new cockpit version. Here's a shot just after I got it set up, so pardon the mess, it was a ton of work to pull the old desk out and deal with all the cabling and peripherals. The Obutto rig makes it much easier to switch between driving and flying.
What's holding up the monitors?
His giant epeen from that awesome set up 
Seriously, though, taking a look at the chair it seems that it just has multiple brackets for mounting the different monitors.
My wife would want her pilot's license and a real plane before she'd let me drop coin on a setup like that. But 
LiquidMantis wrote:Oh, you should see the new cockpit version. Here's a shot just after I got it set up, so pardon the mess, it was a ton of work to pull the old desk out and deal with all the cabling and peripherals. The Obutto rig makes it much easier to switch between driving and flying.
What's holding up the monitors?
Turtles.
All the way down.
I want a download link already!
Looks like someone got their filthy hands on it early. Just spotted this on twitter: http://bit.ly/fRLUZ9
Looks like someone got their filthy hands on it early. Just spotted this on twitter: http://bit.ly/fRLUZ9
What a jerk rubbing it in everyone's face! How did he get it? I can't wait to do the same thing tonight!
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