How to Be an All-Inclusive Gender Thread

I know some people locally now, and can talk to them about stuff sometimes. I also have a good friend from a while back who I can talk to on-line, and I've been hanging out in the various trans-related places on reddit (which are actually reasonably nice, even though it [em]is[/em] reddit and all. ;>) Transgender is an adjective, by the way, not a noun. :p

And, of course here Clocky and I get to see what the other is sharing about. That's pretty nice.

Adjectives? Nouns? Them be words I know not!

ALSO: I've been educated.

My wife caught me looking at my elbows and instantly knew what thread I was reading.

Edwin wrote:

My wife caught me looking at my elbows and instantly knew what thread I was reading.

Yeah, but in this instance, you actually were "reading it for the articles".

I'm entirely too pleased that this thread exists. Keep posting things here, folks, so I can refresh obsessively.

Amoebic wrote:

I'm entirely too pleased that this thread exists. Keep posting things here, folks, so I can refresh obsessively.

I know, right?

*F5*

Yes, Cheeze, you did change your avatar to Caitlin Moran didn't you?

Awesome =)

Maq wrote:

Yes, Cheeze, you did change your avatar to Caitlin Moran didn't you?

Awesome =)

Woah, this is like a forum meta-game! : D

<3 Caitlin Moran. You should all read her book.

I'm glad this has spun off into my own thread, so all the ladies can post about the things they do to be a lady and I can be like "hey wait, should I be doing THAT?"

Like eyebrow shaping. Without my needlessly bushy eyebrows, how will I look like a mad scientist?

The one nice thing about waxing/epi-ripping is that it takes a month or two for the hair to come back, and there's not as much of it.

I have a sneaking suspicion my hair may prove to be faster at coming back than that. But we'll see. Certainly won't come back as fast as shaving, though!

Hypatian wrote:

I have a sneaking suspicion my hair may prove to be faster at coming back than that. But we'll see. Certainly won't come back as fast as shaving, though!

Well, it's one of those weird metrics. The hair starts growing back the next day, depending on where the follicle is in the growth cycle... but it takes a couple months to get back to the point it was at when you started. Return waxers are supposed to go back for their next session when the hair is 1/4", which is 4-6 weeks. After several treatments the repeated trauma to the follicle means the hair grows back finer

/hair nerd

I need to look into waxing, etc. As it is, my daily shaving routine takes 45 minutes to an hour. It sucks.

Hair removal is definitely an area where technology needs to advance much much faster. I want to push a button and have the hair all go bye bye.

I rate waxing regions in order of priority/shaving PITAness/cash flow. Brows > nethers > underarms > lower legs > lower arms > full leg > etc.

Armpit waxing is the only body treatment that has ever actually made me cry *wince*

Yellek wrote:

Hair removal is definitely an area where technology needs to advance much much faster. I want to push a button and have the hair all go bye bye.

Seriously. Or there needs to be a working version of those loofah pads that are supposed to zip all the hair off. I'd be ok just scrubbing it off if I didn't need a cheese grater to do it.

clover wrote:

Seriously. Or there needs to be a working version of those loofah pads that are supposed to zip all the hair off. I'd be ok just scrubbing it off if I didn't need a cheese grater to do it.

Haha, you mean the sanding disc that's marketed as hair removal discs? Sure, just sand away the skin so it hurts so bad you forget you were trying to remove hair.

Yellek wrote:

Hair removal is definitely an area where technology needs to advance much much faster. I want to push a button and have the hair all go bye bye.

You want more technology than fricking lasers? Some people are never happy.

Yellek wrote:
clover wrote:

Seriously. Or there needs to be a working version of those loofah pads that are supposed to zip all the hair off. I'd be ok just scrubbing it off if I didn't need a cheese grater to do it.

Haha, you mean the sanding disc that's marketed as hair removal discs? Sure, just sand away the skin so it hurts so bad you forget you were trying to remove hair.

I was thinking of this thing.

Jonman wrote:
Yellek wrote:

Hair removal is definitely an area where technology needs to advance much much faster. I want to push a button and have the hair all go bye bye.

You want more technology than fricking lasers? Some people are never happy.

Yeah, I've done the lasers. They work, kinda, as long as you go every 6-8 weeks for 9 months and only care about removing the darkest/thickest hairs. Definitely has lightened the hair issue, but I still have to shave/wax regularly. I just don't feel quite as much like a woolly mammoth between shavings.

clover wrote:
Yellek wrote:
clover wrote:

Seriously. Or there needs to be a working version of those loofah pads that are supposed to zip all the hair off. I'd be ok just scrubbing it off if I didn't need a cheese grater to do it.

Haha, you mean the sanding disc that's marketed as hair removal discs? Sure, just sand away the skin so it hurts so bad you forget you were trying to remove hair.

I was thinking of this thing.

Is it bad that after reading that I'm curious about trying actual sandpaper to see the results?

Yellek wrote:
clover wrote:
Yellek wrote:
clover wrote:

Seriously. Or there needs to be a working version of those loofah pads that are supposed to zip all the hair off. I'd be ok just scrubbing it off if I didn't need a cheese grater to do it.

Haha, you mean the sanding disc that's marketed as hair removal discs? Sure, just sand away the skin so it hurts so bad you forget you were trying to remove hair.

I was thinking of this thing.

Is it bad that after reading that I'm curious about trying actual sandpaper to see the results? :)

600 grit, per the article

Yellek wrote:

Is it bad that after reading that I'm curious about trying actual sandpaper to see the results? :)

I'm going to go with "yes" on that one.

And yeah, electrolysis is just about the only straight-up permanent method--and that has to go hair by hair by hair, and depending on the skill of the electrolysist and the method used you'll have more or less re-growth. (Mine claims that with the blend method he uses 80% of the hairs he treats won't re-grow. On the down side, the blend method is slower per hair than the short-wave method. On the up-side it hurts less. Of course, take that with a grain of salt, as with any self-promotion. :D)

I'm going to spoiler a horrifying thing here, regarding electrolysis and bottom surgery:

Spoiler:

So, since the new parts are formed from inverting and moving around skin from the penis and scrotum, before having surgery you need to have electrolysis on all of that--so right there, OUCH. But, of course, electrolysis is not 100% effective per treatment per hair. So, any hair that makes it through the super Darwin electric-shock-rod-of-natural-selection test might grow back [em]in there[/em]. Euuuuugh. I find that whole concept just horribly icky.

At least doing "that half" of things is optional. I have a trans friend from high school who has decided thus far that the actual surgery part is unnecessary.

(She's #2 in this video, it's rather well done)

clover wrote:

At least doing "that half" of things is optional.

Yeah. I'm still undecided about what I want to do there, and suspect I will be for a long time.

Some people, it's really not optional--they just absolutely cannot deal with it. Other people don't really care that much one way or the other.

Hypatian wrote:

If anything gets awkward, it will probably be over the thread title. But since I can't think of a thread title that's really a perfect fit, this is good enough until it becomes an issue.

New thread! Woo!

And now, off to my first therapist appointment...

And no need to be defensive, NSMike. Things did kind of go on for kind of a long time, sorry about that. :)

"Finding the perfect fit".

Works for Clothes, and Identity.

Edit: Oops, no offense intended, bad joke removed!

Edit: Thanks, Mex.

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In other news: After three days of multiple hours of epilation, I'm pretty hair-free. Ow. I'm kind of hoping it doesn't come back all at once. >_> Might have to look into waxing or sugaring, because it's quite nice, but damn was it time consuming to get to this point.

m0nk3yboy wrote:
Hypatian wrote:

If anything gets awkward, it will probably be over the thread title. But since I can't think of a thread title that's really a perfect fit, this is good enough until it becomes an issue.

New thread! Woo!

And now, off to my first therapist appointment...

And no need to be defensive, NSMike. Things did kind of go on for kind of a long time, sorry about that. :)

"Finding the perfect fit".

Works for Clothes, and Identity.

"So Long, My Wee"?

In my head I always read that thread title as "so long, mais oui"