The Great Video Game Business and Financial (In)Stability Thread

jamos5 wrote:
bobbywatson wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

So much wasted money that could have made a new Unreal Tournament.

Isn't there a UT game that's in some kind of permanent alpha state?

Yep! It's laid dormant for years. Not sure why they stopped working on it honestly...

Fortnite made money.

bobbywatson wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

So much wasted money that could have made a new Unreal Tournament.

Isn't there a UT game that's in some kind of permanent alpha state?

It's abandoned, and it had like 4 people at Epic working on it. They came at it from a direction of, "the 'community' is going to build the game", which translates to, "Epic afforded this project no money, and the couple guys there that love Unreal were trying whatever they can".

With the rise in Boomer Shooter popularity, that UT license is, as the McKinsey MBAs say, "under-monetized."

Carlbear95 wrote:

I think Edgar is referring to the docs that were leaked from the FTC/Justice (or maybe UK equiv?) hearings on MSFT-ATVI.

Yes, I was. Thanks for trying Robear.

Many leaks, apparently...

But thanks, I'm told I can be very trying at times!

Naughty Dog laying off contractors, and The Last of Us multiplayer "on ice"

I'd love to read a more "neutral" story on that... conflating "terminating" or "not renewing" contractors with layoffs is click-baity and not equivalent. If we want to debate the fairness of contract vs. full time employment that's fine, but if these individuals were indeed contractors by the standard definition, no severance is standard.. not some dirty secret.

The article says there was a mix of contract and 'developers' which we assume are not contract who were affected. It also specifically says contracts were 'cut short' but I'm certain these 'contracts' are just simple work for hire agreements with nebulous end dates and no protections for the worker, not actual contracts to work for some amount of time with a penalty for cutting it short. (source: me. I worked for years as a 'contract' QA person. You technically work for some 3rd party company you may never actually interact with like Volt and the studio just says 'give me 10 minimum wage testers and 1 senior tester' to the company, or even does the hiring work themselves and tells Volt 'hire this person for us' and terminates them whenever they want.)

Another sign game devs of all levels need a union.

John Riccitiello is stepping down at Unity

That is good news at least.
Well, maybe not good news for Unity, as it might be the rats jumping ship.

beanman101283 wrote:

John Riccitiello is stepping down at Unity

Effective immediately. More likely he was fired.

Let the door hit you on the way out!

SpacePProtean wrote:

Let the door hit you on the way out!

he gets charged for each time it hits him

Really, I'm the first person to post about Xbox ABK deal going through? I thought you people were on top of your game. *searches for way to insert appropriate gif*

Technically I don't' think your post counts since it doesn't have an link

Microsoft Finally Closes Massive Activision Blizzard Deal, Making Call Of Duty Officially Part Of Xbox Now

farley3k wrote:

Technically I don't' think your post counts since it doesn't have an link

Microsoft Finally Closes Massive Activision Blizzard Deal, Making Call Of Duty Officially Part Of Xbox Now

Then I congratulate you on being the first.

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On the subject though does this really mean anything to most of us? A few more games on Gamepass when the backlog is already a mile long, more sequels with guaranteed return on investment, etc.

I'm in my "corporate consolidation is absolutely bad" vs. "Activision-Blizzard's management chain was awful and toxic and Microsoft has been better about that, so maybe it's better for those employees" battle at the moment. GamePass-wise, it'll mean more games I don't have time to play and probably a couple extra bucks in a subscription per month at some point.

1Dgaf wrote:

Really, I'm the first person to post about Xbox ABK deal going through?

Xbox is purchasing Alasdair Beckett-King? Good on them, the dude's hilarious!

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I'm in my "corporate consolidation is absolutely bad" vs. "Activision-Blizzard's management chain was awful and toxic and Microsoft has been better about that, so maybe it's better for those employees" battle at the moment.

The latter definitely won for me.
Had it been basically any other company than Blizzard, I would have been against. But this might actually be good for them.
From what I have seen, even employees are daring to be hopeful.

I also really hope they, and ATVI in general, test MS on unionizing.

Microsoft should have been squeezed for more concessions, like being forced to agree to make Crimson Skies and Midtown Madness games again.

I’d settle for a new Fable ARPG damnit.

TheGameguru wrote:

I’d settle for a new Fable ARPG damnit.

The best I can do is a high quality old school Ultima-esque game made by one of the co-creators of Fable: But hey, it's 100% free!

Microsoft should have been squeezed for more concessions, like being forced to agree to make Crimson Skies and Midtown Madness games again.

Sudeki too!

It looks like The Escapist is imploding again. They are losing the Zero Punctuation guy this time so I've got my doubts they are going to be able to stay afloat while they "pivot" or whatever.

Also in news that will shock no one, The Epic Store is still not turning a profit. I know I personally have well over 100 games on Epic but I can count the number I've payed actual money for on one hand.

Sounds like Ubi is downsizing. And Bungie before that.

Over/under on when MSFT starts trimming back from ActiBlizz?

Ubi's downsizing is not at all a surprise to me. They have been rudderless for at least a couple years now. Not to mention their earlier full throated support of NFTs in gaming (Ubisoft Quartz). :shudder:

Even when they introduced a new IP that was fun and reasonably popular despite weird spelling (Fenyx Rising), they didn't follow through on it. They spent all the good will they generated with The Division franchise by ditching what made it great and trying to turn it into some free to play garbage. The Assassin's Creed franchise is flailing. They assassinated the Ghost Recon franchise by turning it into something decidedly not-Ghosty and then even failing to follow through on the new direction. After bringing Rainbow 6 back from the brink by listening to players, they failed to capitalize on that reversal. The Crew Motorsport, despite having good bones, is a disaster. FarCry gets worse with each new release. Watch Dogs is there, I guess, but I don't know enough about it to really comment.

But I guess Just Dance is still doing okay?

Do I sound bitter? I guess I am. They ruined a lot of games I loved.

Maybe the Avatar game won't suck?

Agent 86 wrote:

It looks like The Escapist is imploding again. They are losing the Zero Punctuation guy this time so I've got my doubts they are going to be able to stay afloat while they "pivot" or whatever.

Also in news that will shock no one, The Epic Store is still not turning a profit. I know I personally have well over 100 games on Epic but I can count the number I've payed actual money for on one hand.

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