Pro Wrestling Catch-all

That show was rough. Of course the crowd is going to cheer Lesnar. How was it being there live?

TOO MANY DANG COMMERCIALS! Besides that, some of the matches were amazing, like the triple threat at the end. The New Day vs Shamus and Cesaro was also amazing. The Divas signing for Hell in the Cell was mostly annoying. I like Foley a lot, but it felt like was drama llama-ing it and almost crying about it. The prematch was ok(Sin Cara, Lince Dorado and Cedric Alexander defeated Tony Nese, Drew Gulak and Ariya Daivari)
, the superstars match between Neville and Titus was decent. The dark show at the end was Rusov vs Roman Ranes with Ranes winning/retaining. The Cruiser weight was a lot of fun, Rich Swann is amazing! The Jericho list promos were hilarious, I was actually enjoying Jericho spots for once. Enzo and Big Cass getting their mics cut by Gallows and Anderson and having the entire audience recite their it was also hilarious.

The Royal Rumble Randy Orton push seems odd considering they had Lesnar knock him down into the middle ranks not long ago.

I hadn't been watching wrestling since 2002 but started casually watching Raw and Smackdown about six months ago again. One thing I really don't like is how much they push people that are part timers. Guys like Lesnar, Cena, Goldberg that you see a few times a year just to briefly wear the belts or do PPV's. I don't remember that being a thing back when I used to watch it.

JeremyK wrote:

The Royal Rumble Randy Orton push seems odd considering they had Lesnar knock him down into the middle ranks not long ago.

I hadn't been watching wrestling since 2002 but started casually watching Raw and Smackdown about six months ago again. One thing I really don't like is how much they push people that are part timers. Guys like Lesnar, Cena, Goldberg that you see a few times a year just to briefly wear the belts or do PPV's. I don't remember that being a thing back when I used to watch it.

I think Cena is okay because he still shows up every week most of the time, he does get a lot of time off for movies and has been injured a few times in the last year. Lesnar, Goldberg, and Taker a pretty inexcusable at this point, especially because it makes everybody else look weak and makes watching RAW and SD every week seem pointless because they make it feel like they are staffed with second class talent.

Overall, I thought the Rumble as a PPV was pretty good, I really liked the Styles v. Cena match, as I expected to. The Women's match was good. The Reigns Owens match was decent. I could not care less about the cruiserweight stuff, and then the Rumble match itself, which I was enjoying until about 25 or so when they had Lesnar, Goldberg, and Taker come in close to the end, clean house, then get thrown out. Then Roman came in again....

I haven't been able to watch any wrestling stuff in... a long time... but just about all my wrestling loving friends were complaining a lot about Roman Reigns last night.

If you can, find the NXT Takeover events and watch them. Other than the one from this weekend (which was *only* on par with the Rumble), the rest of them have all been head and shoulders above anything the main roster puts on.

TakeOver really impressed me as most of the matches I didn't expect much from really delivered. I didn't think for example that Roode and Shinsuke would have any chemistry but that was by far and away the best Nakamura match since Sami Zayn.

I don't think I've been watching long enough to get the Roman Reigns hate. From what I've seen the last six months I've just been kind of indifferent about him. People seem to get real worked up over him though.

JeremyK wrote:

I don't think I've been watching long enough to get the Roman Reigns hate. From what I've seen the last six months I've just been kind of indifferent about him. People seem to get real worked up over him though.

Seems to happen to certain guys. It's 'cool' to hate on him. Roman's far from perfect but he's on par with a lot of the more over wrestlers. The biggest negative about his is he's been pushed so hard by creative it can be a bit much.

The internet wrestling community loves to hate on RR because they don't like that he beat Daniel Bryan a couple of years ago in the RR. (Never mind that it enabled the ascension of Bryan to his amazing series of matches.) As such, the IWC has determined he is "bad" and must be booed.

That most of his matches are pretty good is ignored by the IWC as well.

From what I've gathered, Vince McMahon has been pushing RR for years regardless of whether or not the fans actually liked him.

I'm a lapsed fan, but I've always loved The Undertaker and I especially love when he "appears" behind his opponent instead of walking down the aisle. And God help us all if he had to meander down that particular aisle. There was a theory floated (at the party I was at) that Undertaker would win and wrestle Cena at Wrestlemania with his career on the line so he could retire. Then Reigns threw him out.

From what I've seen of Brock Lesnar so far people should do less complaining about RR and more about him. This guys sucks. He's so boring. In the ring... out of the ring. BORING. He literally just stood in the middle of the ring last night.

I've never been a fan of Brock either but he's always been massively pushed. I always get the impression he's just there for the money. He just seems to never go all out and his matches are pretty much the same thing - suplex city.

Brock Lesnar was great until he decided he'd rather play American Football. That didn't work out. Then he was set to be Mr. MMA until that didn't work out, either. Pro wrestling is just what Brock Lesnar does to earn a living in the absence of anything better. He is paid well. Pushed hard. Gets to work a lighter schedule than most. He isn't being challenged and is coasting. It's a shame because in the beginning he was awesome. He had some great moments with Big Show, The Rock, Kurt Angle, and Eddie Guerrero. I even enjoyed his turn as a face.

Then there was the original Goldberg fued. The less said about that the better. I never tuned in for the recent return matchup. I assume it was better.

I'm only a few times a year viewer now, so I don't get the whole picture, but it certainly seems a less interested Lesnar these days.

Brock is pretty clear that he is literally for-hire.

And the reason why he is pushed (or often at the top) is that people like to see him suplex the sh*t out of people. And now, with Goldberg coming back, they like to see Goldberg beat him up. Now, at WM, people will pay to watch Brock suplex the everliving f*ck out of Goldberg.

I'm not sure watching someone get suplexed over and over is what I consider an entertaining wrestling match.

Speaking of entertaining wrestling matches I though last night's smackdown main event was very entertaining. Also, the Miz is surprisingly good at the announcer table.

I think the current Lesnar run was good until he started suplexing people.

When he wants to go, he can f-ing go. However the Suplex City stuff was just a long series of squash matches that worked really well against Cena, because nobody does that to Cena, but afterwards not so much. As of now, they have built him to be unbeatable, then he has gotten squashed by Goldberg twice...really I just hope they don't renew his contract when it ends, but I am sure that they will and he will continue to take up a spot at the major PPVs instead of an actual wrestling match.

Kamakazi010654 wrote:

I think the current Lesnar run was good until he started suplexing people.

When he wants to go, he can f-ing go. However the Suplex City stuff was just a long series of squash matches that worked really well against Cena, because nobody does that to Cena, but afterwards not so much. As of now, they have built him to be unbeatable, then he has gotten squashed by Goldberg twice...really I just hope they don't renew his contract when it ends, but I am sure that they will and he will continue to take up a spot at the major PPVs instead of an actual wrestling match.

I hope he's done too. There's enough big guys around now, especially with Strowman. I'm actually surprised by how much Goldberg has dominated Brock lately. Brock completely dominated everyone he fought against and all of sudden this.

So I wasn't going to go to WWE Smackdown when it is here in the Twin Cities on the 28th, but one tickets yesterday from a local radio station, so now I'm going

Rainsmercy wrote:

So I wasn't going to go to WWE Smackdown when it is here in the Twin Cities on the 28th, but one tickets yesterday from a local radio station, so now I'm going :)

Nice. My gf kind of wants to go to Smackdown at some point because she sees a lot of them from watching Total Diva's.

Anyone have opinions on WWE 2k17? It has finally hit $30 on the PSN. The reviews seem to be all over the place. I haven't played a wrestling game since the early 2000's. Is it even worth that price?

dewalist wrote:

I haven't played a wrestling game since the early 2000's. Is it even worth that price?

Not even a little bit. The more recent (last 3-5 years) WWE 2K games have been pretty bad. There was a mode where you could build your own storylines and stuff like that to at least make that part enjoyable, but it's been gutted for awhile and hasn't returned. It's best to just take a pass on this one and any subsequent WWE 2K game for the forseeable future (and past)

CptDomano wrote:
dewalist wrote:

I haven't played a wrestling game since the early 2000's. Is it even worth that price?

Not even a little bit. The more recent (last 3-5 years) WWE 2K games have been pretty bad. There was a mode where you could build your own storylines and stuff like that to at least make that part enjoyable, but it's been gutted for awhile and hasn't returned. It's best to just take a pass on this one and any subsequent WWE 2K game for the forseeable future (and past)

Bummer! Thanks!

I miss the Fire Pro wrestling games.

JeremyK wrote:

I miss the Fire Pro wrestling games.

I missed the Fire Pro games completely when they were popular. I picked up Fire Pro Wrestling Returns when it was released on PSN and wished I would've played it back then--loved the mechanics of that one.

Lucha Underground is coming to Netflix (Seasons 1 and 2)!!!!

And just realized I can't even use the tickets I won(if they ever call me back with the info as it was a text to win) because I have class that night and I can't miss it.

Going to Smackdown in April with the gf. It will be my first live wrestling event. Should be interesting.

Make a giant poster with Stan on it so you can hopefully be immortalized on TV.

Speaking of Smackdown, I had an impromptu run-in with a buddy of mine this Tuesday and ended up hanging with him for the evening, in which I discovered some familiar NXT faces have graduated and that Smackdown is fun to watch. So I'll probably try tuning in every Tuesday and will be chilling in his living room for Wrestlemania.

It was also my first time actually seeing John Cena wrestle, and I can totally see why he's popular among child fans. He just comes off as extremely affable.

I've definitely enjoyed Smackdown more than Raw since the brand split.