NFL 2013: Week 16

Stele wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Really looking forward to football today, and by "looking forward to football" I mean "sitting at my father-in-law's house in the middle of Tennessee not watching football".

They don't even have wi-fi, so I can't fire up the NFL Sunday Ticket app on my tablet. THE. HORROR.

Can't you use your cell phone? Don't they at least have 3G coverage?

I'm out in the sticks; coverage is bad enough here I had my signal dropped after watching a few plays several times, so I just gave up. Eventually snuck into the back office to watch bits of the late games, but missed all the good stuff.

Looks like the Pack will stay alive... Crazy.

Still think they have a punchers chance if they get in.

Packers fan's.... did you send a big thank you to Chip Kelly?.. still amazed we bothered to play given it was a meaningless game.

Play? They didn't play they annilahted.

Officiating it seems has been awful this year.. yesterday we had the debacle that was the Blocked FG by the Steelers vs GB. We saw a clear recovery and pitch back by the Steelers yet the refs never allowed that to be reviewed. Additionally last night (admittedly it was meaningless) but Cutler at the end of the half is clearly down and short of the first down by at least a yard.. Not only did the officials get the spot wrong.. there was no chains for measure OR a replay to ensure that the spot was legit. Awful.

When you have rules to avoid situations like the above and you still get it wrong we got issues.

With the regular season all but over I thought I'd say which coaches are gonna be fired on Black Monday or whatever it's called.

Jim Schwartz. The talent hasn't changed too much the past few years and yet their record has been all over the place. With the Lions unable to secure the division while the Bears and Packers stayed competitive with backup QBs the story here has been of Schwartz's hot seat and I think he's gonna be the fall guy.

Gus Bradley. The Jags were supposed to be the worst team in the league and once they dumped Gabbert for Henne they became respectable again. Bradley keeps his job.

John Fox Fired. J/K, this guy is likely about to win a ring.

Jason Garrett. Who knows? The hiring of Monte Kiffin is clearly a giant blunder and I don't believe Garrett has shown himself to be a head coach. Now that he's shed his OC duties things have clearly turned around for Garrett, right? I don't see enough here to warrant bringing him back and I feel like the talk from Jerry Jones has weakend sufficiently for me to say that Garrett will be back. What? I think Jones likes Garrett because Garrett is his Female Doggo. Kiffin is the scapegoat and even though Garrett played a role in that

Leslie Frazier. We've seen enough here to say his tenure has been a failure, yes?

Tom Coughlin. He may not be fired, but he's likely to retire instead in order to save face. This season has been pretty disastrous and I'm surprised the Giants have won as many games as they have.

Mike Smith. Tough to say here. Injuries clearly account for issues with the Falcons, but their defense is pretty bad coupled with the inability to run the football gives this team no identity without Jones and White on the field. Not sure of his contract situation, but I have a feeling Smith gets another chance. Especially considering this year is likely to see more turnover at head coach than the prior few season.

Mike Shanahan. Are you kidding me? Gone. If he isn't fired it's because Synder and Shanny are doing some dance to see who will blink first. Shanny quitting would be Synder winning, being fired would be Shanny winning. Who cares? Either way he's gone. Too much dysfunction, though that's par for the course in Washington.

Greg Schiano. Safe, for now. If, as MilkmanDanimal points out, the Glazers find a way to fire him without having to pay him then he may be gone. If not, the team has turned around enough to possibly save his job. I think this comes down to money.

Dennis Allen. I'm really not sure here because the Raiders have overperformed at 4 wins. He's GM Reggie McKenzie's guy and it's tough to know which way a rebuilding franchise will go. Two 4 win seasons though, isn't showing any signs of growth though. Carry a trillion dollars in dead cap this season after letting all the overpaid veterans go means that McKenzie is going to be around for a while as he's still gutting the roster, but does the team believe in Allen. Frankly, I don't know because I haven't paid any attention to Oakland this year. I think he gets one more shot coaching a roster filled with his players and not a cap crippled roster.

Rob Chudzinski. He's fine. For one more season. Weeden wasn't his guy. Not his fault.

Mike Munchak. It's tough to move on from people who have been with an organization for so long and Munchak has been with them for my entire life. But the Titans lack an identity and they're going to move on from Locker, Chris Johnson and Muke Munchak.

Allen stays; the Raiders were effectively giving up before the season even began by getting rid of all their dead cap money this year. He gets to build for the future, with Josh Freeman playing QB next year. Wait . . . yeah, just a few seconds of weeping, now I'm good.

Frazier, Schwartz, and Munchak are gone. I'm really looking forward to seeing the Snyder-Shanahan debacle implode. Greg Schiano is still a giant douche, even with four wins. Also, he's a giant douche.

garion333 wrote:

Tom Coughlin. He may not be fired, but he's likely to retire instead in order to save face. This season has been pretty disastrous and I'm surprised the Giants have won as many games as they have.

I hope they fire Gilbride. I cannot stand him, and I don't know how they won two Super Bowls with him. As long as Buddy Ryan is alive, I still hold out hope that he will run on the field and slug Gilbride again.

Kush15 wrote:

As long as Buddy Ryan is alive, I still hold out hope that he will run on the field and slug Gilbride again.

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garion333 wrote:

With the regular season all but over I thought I'd say which coaches are gonna be fired on Black Monday or whatever it's called. ...

My first thought when I saw your list was ... where's Ron Rivera?

Then I remembered: The guy who wasn't going to be on the payroll after the bye week is now Riverboat Ron, and he's probably going to get Coach of the Year. (Unless Belichick gets it; he's down more with less talent than anyone in the league.)

For better or worse, Carolina is stuck with Rivera for another couple of years. Weird how football works.

Enix wrote:
garion333 wrote:

With the regular season all but over I thought I'd say which coaches are gonna be fired on Black Monday or whatever it's called. ...

My first thought when I saw your list was ... where's Ron Rivera?

Then I remembered: The guy who wasn't going to be on the payroll after the bye week is now Riverboat Ron, and he's probably going to get Coach of the Year. (Unless Belichick gets it; he's down more with less talent than anyone in the league.)

For better or worse, Carolina is stuck with Rivera for another couple of years. Weird how football works.

Good, hopefully he's in Carolina just long enough until Cal is ready to fire Dykes (2 years?) and Riverboat Ron can come back to his alma mater.

garion333 wrote:

Jim Schwartz. The talent hasn't changed too much the past few years and yet their record has been all over the place. With the Lions unable to secure the division while the Bears and Packers stayed competitive with backup QBs the story here has been of Schwartz's hot seat and I think he's gonna be the fall guy.

Schwartz is a big part of the problem IMO. He needs to go. The only thing in Detroit more derelict than the coaching is the discipline.

Gus Bradley. The Jags were supposed to be the worst team in the league and once they dumped Gabbert for Henne they became respectable again. Bradley keeps his job.

Not only does he keep his job, but I think this season goes down as a "win" for him. Coaching was not the problem with that team. They mulligan'd this season much like the Raiders ($27 million in dead money, second only to Oakland's $50 million). Next season, Jacksonville's books are completely clean - a mere $32,000 in dead money.

Jason Garrett. Who knows? The hiring of Monte Kiffin is clearly a giant blunder and I don't believe Garrett has shown himself to be a head coach. Now that he's shed his OC duties things have clearly turned around for Garrett, right? I don't see enough here to warrant bringing him back and I feel like the talk from Jerry Jones has weakend sufficiently for me to say that Garrett will be back. What? I think Jones likes Garrett because Garrett is his Female Doggo. Kiffin is the scapegoat and even though Garrett played a role in that

I don't think it matters who coaches here, they will struggle to be effective in that environment. That said, I think Garrett is one of those guys who is a better coordinator than head coach. As I like to repeatedly say, the head coach job is half coaching and half management. I don't think Garrett has been successful at the latter, though again, I wonder who can manage effectively while trapped inside Jerry's snow globe.

Leslie Frazier. We've seen enough here to say his tenure has been a failure, yes?

I can't say that I've seen anything that makes me think he needs to be kept.

Tom Coughlin. He may not be fired, but he's likely to retire instead in order to save face. This season has been pretty disastrous and I'm surprised the Giants have won as many games as they have.

I wonder if Coughlin has the energy left to keep going. If he does, I would not be so quick to fire him.

Mike Smith. Tough to say here. Injuries clearly account for issues with the Falcons, but their defense is pretty bad coupled with the inability to run the football gives this team no identity without Jones and White on the field. Not sure of his contract situation, but I have a feeling Smith gets another chance. Especially considering this year is likely to see more turnover at head coach than the prior few season.

There's no way in hell Atlanta should think about firing Mike Smith.

Mike Shanahan. Are you kidding me? Gone. If he isn't fired it's because Synder and Shanny are doing some dance to see who will blink first. Shanny quitting would be Synder winning, being fired would be Shanny winning. Who cares? Either way he's gone. Too much dysfunction, though that's par for the course in Washington.

No question there.

Greg Schiano. Safe, for now. If, as MilkmanDanimal points out, the Glazers find a way to fire him without having to pay him then he may be gone. If not, the team has turned around enough to possibly save his job. I think this comes down to money.

#GregStrong

Dennis Allen. I'm really not sure here because the Raiders have overperformed at 4 wins. He's GM Reggie McKenzie's guy and it's tough to know which way a rebuilding franchise will go. Two 4 win seasons though, isn't showing any signs of growth though. Carry a trillion dollars in dead cap this season after letting all the overpaid veterans go means that McKenzie is going to be around for a while as he's still gutting the roster, but does the team believe in Allen. Frankly, I don't know because I haven't paid any attention to Oakland this year. I think he gets one more shot coaching a roster filled with his players and not a cap crippled roster.

Allen deserves praise for his work, not a firing. Oakland knew what it was doing this year. I don't think Allen's coaching can be pointed to as the problem.

Rob Chudzinski. He's fine. For one more season. Weeden wasn't his guy. Not his fault.

I seriously want to see this team play with Brian Hoyer. It's one of the biggest disappointments of the whole season that his season was cut short.

Mike Munchak. It's tough to move on from people who have been with an organization for so long and Munchak has been with them for my entire life. But the Titans lack an identity and they're going to move on from Locker, Chris Johnson and Muke Munchak.

Munchak leaped from positional coach straight to head coach in Tennessee, because he had the confidence of Bud Adams. Now, Adams is gone, and Munchak has nothing in his tenure to point to to justify keeping him. Tennessee is going to start fresh. And hopefully still suck.

I always hear other local Bengals fans Female Doggoing about Marvin Lewis.

I want to punch them. A little bit.

Goodbye candlestick tonight. I hope ESPN shows a lot of memories.

Rice and Young. Together again. The last 10 min of ESPN has been the best ever Monday countdown.

Thin_J wrote:

I always hear other local Bengals fans Female Doggoing about Marvin Lewis.

I want to punch them. A little bit.

He's under contract, he stays. Done a hell of a job with Adam Jones or Jones finally grew up. But really Cincy is all about Mike Zimmer and the fact Lewis keeps him around is a good enough reason to keep his job.

Horrible first half. And that penalty on a shoulder tackle... Ugh!

Much better start to the 2nd.

Thin_J wrote:

I always hear other local Bengals fans Female Doggoing about Marvin Lewis.

I want to punch them. A little bit.

It would be deserved. Show them the standings from the previous 20 years before Lewis. Outside of a couple Wyche years, well, you hardly need me telling you what that list looks like.

Luckiest onside ever. Holy sh*t.

YES. YES. Motherf**kin YES.

I'm glad my neighbors are on vacation.

Whew. Good night, Candlestick. Hello playoffs.

McFinn wrote:

I'm glad my neighbors are on vacation.

I yelled so loud, Grumpicus probably heard me.

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You know, the 9ers are a time I like to watch play as they play fundamental defense and their offense is fun to watch. At least when they aren't derping themselves into mediocrity (see the first half of last year's Super Bowl, much of this season). But there isn't a coach in the league I hate more than Harbaugh. So yeah, that's my new favorite gif.

Thought this was a cool chart:

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