Fertility Support Catch-All (including "alternative ways to acquire offspring")

I'll be the first to admit I know absolutely nothing about all of this. But I just happened to be listening to the local radio here in Vancouver, which mentioned something relevant.

Apparently Canadian birth certificates are changing/have been changed to allow up to 4 names when recording the parentage of a child. The first two are for the legal parents, which can be a same-sex couple. The third is for a surrogate mother, and the fourth is for a sperm donor, if any.

That is actually incredibly awesome.

Positive thoughts for you, feegle!

Stuff with the clinic is done, and they implanted 4 embryos in the surrogate. Pregnancy test is due March 24th.

At least we have a week of tooling around India to keep our minds occupied while we wait.

Wow, four! They aren't messing around!! What's the plan in case or triplets or quadruples?
Enjoy sightseeing, India can be a beautiful place!!!

Visit these places:

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Eleima wrote:

Wow, four! They aren't messing around!! What's the plan in case or triplets or quadruples?
Enjoy sightseeing, India can be a beautiful place!!!

In case of more than twins, they are legally obligated to reduce to twins. Doc says successful pregnancies with these conditions are 70% single, 25% double, 5% more than double.

Today is Holi:
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And this is us whiteys, focus for the excitement and curiosity of Indians all throughout Vrindavan:
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Enjoy your time there! And your odds are good. I had 4 embryos implanted when we went through IVF, and now we have our beautiful daughter. I am sending you good vibes through gravitational waves (thinking of another current thread).

I only had ovarian stimulation and knew the odds for multiples were slim when I had four ovocytes raring to go. Wasn't sure in case of fertilized eggs/embryos.
Wow, I'd forgotten about Holi! Glad to see you guys are enjoying sightseeing!!!

Had my parents over for the weekend and there were quite a few subtle and not so subtle "Kids soon?" moments from my mother. At one point wife and I both reflexively replied 'We're trying!' Which feels a little strange considering the implications of 'trying' at this stage of things. Anyway... lots of positive thoughts to Clan Feegle!

Hope things continue to go well Feegle.

I pleased to say one of my wife's relatives in India who we met when bringing home our daughter is looking to adopt. I'm excited that things may have changed enough there that that is now an option for them.

Ugh, Rezzy, that sucks. I wish people would just stop asking these kinda of questions. Hopefully, it'll become less and less spirally acceptable, particularly with the emergence and acceptance of couples who choose not to have children.
Always something I avoid asking anyhow, that's for sure.

Excellent news, Rahmen!! I hope the process isn't too lengthy nor grueling for them.
Also, time for a CYT.

No surprise Eleima that you'd notice even before I did.

You got lucky, the last two CYTs totally passed me by with all that's been happening lately. It's not easy browsing the forums on an iPhone!!! But this is one thread I pay close attention to.

Rezzy wrote:

Had my parents over for the weekend and there were quite a few subtle and not so subtle "Kids soon?" moments from my mother. At one point wife and I both reflexively replied 'We're trying!' Which feels a little strange considering the implications of 'trying' at this stage of things. Anyway... lots of positive thoughts to Clan Feegle!

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Maybe try, "Look, Mom, we're f*cking as hard as we can!"?

Although, that might instigate detailed sex advice and personal anecdotes. Huh. Use at your own risk.

Ha! I love your advice, LarryC! Could be horribly uncomfortable if it backfired but funny. For us to hear about afterwards of course.

Last Monday we got a note from the clinic that the Beta HCG report had a level of 85. This morning we got a follow-up note that they've done an ultrasound and identified a healthy gestational sac with measurements consistent with 4 weeks of pregnancy.

So, um, yeah. I'm trying really hard not to be through the roof just because, you know, it's only 4 weeks in, and a lot of stuff can happen between now and 8 months from now, but... yay.

Epic high five to you!

Woo! I remember the cautious excitement when we got the call for our second child (now almost 2yrs old) that numbers looked good and everything was proceeding apace. Congratulations, I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed, but this is good news!

Cautious excitement is a good way to describe the feeling. That's just how I felt when we got the positive numbers early on with my IVF. I was even more excited when the early ultrasound showed only one heartbeat.

Cautious optimism and excitement is *exactly* how it's "supposed" to feel, I think. Totally been there too. Still cause for a celebration even though it's no done deal just yet.
Still happy for you and fingers crossed things stay on track.

Miscarriage.

Sorry Feegle. It's a rough roller coaster. I know your pain. Try to stay positive, though I know that there are few words that will help.

Damn, Feegle, sorry to hear that. My wife and I went through three miscarriages and they were utterly devastating, and that was without all the extra stuff you and your wife have gone through. Not that it means a whole lot in the long run, but you have all my sympathies.

Aw fudge, fudggity fudge FUDGE.
There are no words, but I'm just really really sorry to hear that.
My thoughts are with you guys.

Aww shoot. It took us a couple of tries before we were successful, and I remember the heartbreak of our miscarriage distinctly. What I didn't mention in the previous post was that was our second try. The first one had numbers that look alright, but they didn't tell us that at the level they were seeing, that there was a distinct possibility of something wrong. We went in for our first ultra sound and found the placenta, womb, and nothing else. It took us a while to build up the courage to try again, but our daughter is the result of that next try. I wish you the best and hope that things work out.

Feegle, I'm so sorry to hear that

Wife and I went to a fertility clinic back in February. First order of business was to put her on Letrozole (generic form of Femera). First cycle in March was a big fat nothing. I'll know about the 2nd cycle in about another week.

Feegle, I"m so sorry for you and your wife for the loss. I'm thinking of you both.

So sorry. =(

I'm sorry, Feegle. I had been refraining from joining the optimism brigade a while back because I knew how some of these things turned out. A non-trivial number of prospective pregnancies do end up in miscarriages. I attend a fair number of them annually. We suspect that the actual percentage is higher - people just misconstrue them as heavy periods.

I hope you can try again. My own sister-in-law and a bunch of friends went through miscarriages. They're tough.