NFL 2013: Week 8

Enix wrote:

Greg Schiano, worse than MRSA (courtesy of Deadspin).

Apparently SI is now piling on the Schiano-must-DIAF-train. Yikes.

You watching tonight, MMD? I'm hoping someone wraps this game up early. I've got to be at my kid's school before sunrise so I can eat donuts with fourth-graders.

The only way Schiano isn't fired tomorrow morning is if the Glazers are waiting for the investigation into the leak regarding Freeman being in level one of the drug program to start; if they find evidence he talked about confidential information, they can fire him with cause and he gets paid nothing. WHICH WOULD BE AWESOME.

I have to be at the middle school tonight for LEGO robotics practice, nd am really looking forward to missing part of the game.

I don't quite understand the NFL's push to sell American football in the UK/Europe.

From the perspective of certain NFL teams getting rid of a home game I can understand that logic. Jags yea, Atlanta really?, Oakland yea.

From the perspective of the English Football Association I understand wanting to host games. They will whore out Wembley for anything considering its huge building costs and them liking $$$.

I guess the NFL's perspective is that the NFL is so f*cking popular in the US so why not. You can play a portion of a season with fake refs and people will still watch. Whats a couple more games in London? not like the American fans are going anywhere.

I'm not sure with the time difference UK/Europe will ever care. Also they just might not care at all anyways.

edit: I'd concentrate on Mexico and potentially South America.

jowner wrote:

I don't quite understand the NFL's push to sell American football in the UK/Europe.

To eventually put teams there.

When the NFL eventually expands to 36, it's almost a guarantee that one of the four new teams will be in London.

Growing the NFL into an international sport is the game's next big thing. It's not a 5 year plan, it's a 50 year plan.

edit: I'd concentrate on Mexico and potentially South America.

More money to chase in England, but Mexico is not at all off the radar, either.

I'd put all four teams in Europe. London, Barcelona, Munich, and Paris. That would give the teams 11 games in Europe every season. It would allow US teams to go to Europe for a month and knockout games. And the European teams would need five weeks in the US to complete their games.

So 3 games over here but all of them are at Wembley. I can't help but think that with 3 games, they could afford to take one to another part of the country, like Manchester (Old Trafford), Cardiff (Millennium) or Edinburgh (Murrayfield). Because Wembley really isn't that practical for people who travel by train from the North, where the last train is often quite early. Which is why people were leaving before the end of the Pittsberg game earlier in the year.

Also the area of where the stadium is, is just barren with nothing much in the area. Kind of like the Meadowlands. Plus Leeds Rhinos always lose at the new Wembley which is really annoying.

*Legion* wrote:
jowner wrote:

I don't quite understand the NFL's push to sell American football in the UK/Europe.

To eventually put teams there.

When the NFL eventually expands to 36, it's almost a guarantee that one of the four new teams will be in London.

Growing the NFL into an international sport is the game's next big thing. It's not a 5 year plan, it's a 50 year plan.

edit: I'd concentrate on Mexico and potentially South America.

More money to chase in England, but Mexico is not at all off the radar, either.

If its a 50 year plan theres more money to chase south of the border IMO.

onewild wrote:

So 3 games over here but all of them are at Wembley. I can't help but think that with 3 games, they could afford to take one to another part of the country, like Manchester (Old Trafford), Cardiff (Millennium) or Edinburgh (Murrayfield). Because Wembley really isn't that practical for people who travel by train from the North, where the last train is often quite early. Which is why people were leaving before the end of the Pittsberg game earlier in the year.

Also the area of where the stadium is, is just barren with nothing much in the area. Kind of like the Meadowlands. Plus Leeds Rhinos always lose at the new Wembley which is really annoying.

Bingo

Thats why I question the actual plan. If your actually trying to grow American football in the UK and Europe 3 games at Wembley of all places isn't going to do it. For the FA they are ecstatic.

Lends to the argument that I don't think they actually understand UK and Europe.

Jayhawker wrote:

I'd put all four teams in Europe. London, Barcelona, Munich, and Paris. That would give the teams 11 games in Europe every season. It would allow US teams to go to Europe for a month and knockout games. And the European teams would need five weeks in the US to complete their games.

You just assumed Spanish people and French people want to watch American Football.

Sure you named major cities but I see this akin to the NHL trying to ram franchises down the throats of people who honestly just don't care.

The UK and Germany are the best bets as people actually attend live sports in good numbers. Sticking point is they by no means pay anything close to American prices. The German league has amazing attendance and also very affordable ticket prices. England not so much but in comparison to American football its very affordable.

Quick comparison I went to a Champions League semi final and paid around $230 for a very good seat. The NFL equivalent for teams and prestige of game would of cost me easily past $500. I'm not sure if that would sell in Europe.

I picked big cities that had teams in the NFL D league they ran for awhile.

Completely anecdotal, but in the Front Office Football leagues I've played in there have been more people from Spain than England. Strange, that.

jowner wrote:

If its a 50 year plan theres more money to chase south of the border IMO.

NFL players do not want to live in Mexico. That's an impossible sell for the league's first international team.

Eventually, perhaps, but not first. Europe's coming first.

Ladies and gentlemen, the Carolina Panthers!

Not a bad start.

Hey since it's Tampa the game is actually on a local network.

Tampa making Tolbert look like Jim Brown.

*Legion* wrote:

Tampa making Tolbert look like Jim Brown.

Indeed.

Season average: 3.3 ypc.
Career average: 4.0 ypc.
Tonight: 9.0 ypc.

There is plenty of time during the half to take care of Schiano and then hide the body. Blame it on MRSA. Everybody wins,

Yeah, loved the 2 3rd down bad snaps.

My team sucks, but I've decided to focus on the positive and trash talk in the littlest way I can. LB off! Lavonte David is better than Kuechly. Ha and all.

Or does he only seem that good because of who surrounds him?

Like the semi-hot girl surrounded by her uglier friends.

Remember how I said I like Thursday games?

That only applies when they're legitimate NFL games...

Greg Schiano looked utterly broken in his postgame press conference. No confidence, no positive spin, not even platitudes. It's the first time I've thought maybe he realizes his great master plan hasn't worked.

I have a bottle of champagne chilled, and I am telling you with no exaggeration, if he is fired tonight, I am drinking the entire goddamned thing for breakfast.

Caught some Tampa Sports Talk after dinner tonight and yeah, they were all pretty sure he's gone, and it's just a matter of "when" at this point, not "if".

thread wrote:

Pick ‘Ems
Cowboys @ Lions
Steelers @ Raiders
Jets @ Bengals
Falcons @ Cardinals
Redskins @ Broncos

I would like to request a Giants pickem in the near future, only because in 40 games, they haven't had one. Oakland/Giants in Week 10 doesn't seem like a bad option. Granted, they played so bad I'm surprised they are still part of the NFL, but I'm surprised that Eagles/Giants wasn't part of this week's selection over say, Redskins/Broncos.

Not a complaint, just a request. If you're purposely boycotting the Giants, I completely understand and I don't blame you

He has had 3 Jaguars picks after all. :p

I chose the Jags last week and went 1-4. Never. Again.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Greg Schiano looked utterly broken in his postgame press conference. No confidence, no positive spin, not even platitudes. It's the first time I've thought maybe he realizes his great master plan hasn't worked.

Self-awareness is a b!tch, no? But maybe that'll lead to something better. It took Riverboat Ron Rivera until his third season to realize that, hey, maybe I can make some of those 4th-and-shorts.

This isn't a great Carolina team by any stretch, but it's competent. They held onto the ball, didn't make mistakes, held Tampa in check and walked out of a short-week road game with a W. I'm happy.

Now that CAR is over .500 for the first time in five years (true fact; look it up), I'm trying to figure out their path to 9 wins and a possible playoff berth.

The schedule from here: ATL, @SF, NE, @MIA, TB, @NO, NYJ, NO, @ATL

Five wins would be a split with ATL, a split with NO and wins over MIA, NYJ and TB. It's doable, but, man, I wish we had a do-over on that BUF game.

CAR has an outside chance of winning the division. They still have two games vs. NO, and CAR actually swept the series last year.

Took a total flyer and grabbed Tolbert to fill in at RB on the bye. I'll take 14 points from the fireplug on a craptastic bye week ANY day.

Enix wrote:

Now that CAR is over .500 for the first time in five years (true fact; look it up)

Brad Nessler made sure everyone watching the game on TV knew that factoid.

*Legion* wrote:
Enix wrote:

Now that CAR is over .500 for the first time in five years (true fact; look it up)

Brad Nessler made sure everyone watching the game on TV knew that factoid.

Nessler-->Carolina going over .500 = Gruden-->Freeman's only been on the team for 14 days

Schiano still isn't fired. What's taking them so long?

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
Enix wrote:

Now that CAR is over .500 for the first time in five years (true fact; look it up)

Brad Nessler made sure everyone watching the game on TV knew that factoid.

Nessler-->Carolina going over .500 = Gruden-->Freeman's only been on the team for 14 days

= Collinsworth-->DEY DRESSED 10 DEE BEES!