NFL 2013: Week 8

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* Chad Henne has thrown for 300 yards in back to back games. That hasn’t happened in Jacksonville since Byron Leftwich, way back in 2004, in that brief period of time when Leftwich hadn’t yet been injured at the NFL level. And that happened only once. The time before that was Mark Brunell in 2000.

* Let’s put it this way: Mark Brunell had back-to-back 300 yard passing games as a Washington Redskin (in 2005) more recently than the Jags had one before Henne’s past two games. This is the offensive futility I have cheered for for so many years.

* The Patriots got hosed by that call at the end of the game, right? Except apparently they had already been warned about doing it by the officials earlier in the game. The Jets reportedly spotted the Patriots breaking this rule in prior games, and told the officials to watch for it. Seemingly another case of Belickick’s disinterest in rule following biting him and the team.

* Josh Gordon trade rumors heating up. Obvious landing places include San Francisco, who has a bounty of draft picks from which to deal, and Indianapolis, who look capable of a Super Bowl run this season, but just lost Reggie Wayne.

* Fun fact: the Browns already hold not only the Colts 1st round pick (Trent Richardson), but also their 4th round pick (traded during 2013 draft for Cleveland’s 3rd round pick, used to select Montori Hughes). It would only be fitting if they trade even more picks for Gordon.

* I heard the Colts dressed a whole lot of DBs this week. Like 10.

* Some fantasy football idiot tweeted a death threat to Brandon Jacobs, demanding Jacobs perform to a certain level on Monday night. Not only are death threats, even as jokes, completely distasteful and inappropriate, but what level of fantasy moron do you have to be to take things that seriously, yet fail to bench Jacobs, who hadn’t practiced all week and was progressively downgraded on the injury report over the weekend?

* How did the Cardinals not manage to be the ones that traded for Bryant McKinnie? I guess they figure they aren’t playoff competitors this year, so why chase a veteran stop-gap? That does make sense, but they’re gonna get Carson Palmer K-I-L-T killed.

* Jeff Garcia reached out and offered his services to the Browns.
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* I have to confess, I enjoy football games on weeknights a whole lot. Thursday and Monday games are my favorite. On Sundays, it’s hard, because I feel like I need to not spend my entire Sunday in front of a television. But on weeknights? Screw it, I spent the whole day working, I watch guilt-free.

Pick ‘Ems

Cowboys @ Lions: Dallas has been about as up and down as a team can be. Their win over Philly last week was never in doubt, but the 17 points scored was hardly inspiring. Detroit was obviously better last week with Megatron back to health, but it wasn’t enough to topple the Bengals. Detroit has some issues at offensive tackle, where injuries forced rookie LaAdrian Waddle onto the field. If the Lions are lucky, DeMarcus Ware won’t yet be back in the lineup for Dallas.

Steelers @ Raiders: A battle of 2-4 ball clubs. Pittsburgh hasn’t been as bad as that record indicates, and both of their wins have come in the last two games. The Raiders, though, have played a brutal schedule (their losses: Indianapolis, Denver, Washington, Kansas City - teams with a combined record of 20-6). Fun fact: the Raiders haven’t won a game following their bye week in 11 years.

Jets @ Bengals: An interesting matchup of two teams who have good records, yet are by far the lowest scoring teams to have those records. The Jets has scored only 12 touchdowns, putting them tied with Oakland and Houston, and ahead of only Pittsburgh (9), Tampa Bay (9) and Jacksonville (7 little miracles). Their 134 total points scored put them well below every other team with a winning record, and below every .500 team as well, along with a few losing records. Cincinnati’s 148 points puts them a little higher, but below every winning team except… the Jets.

Falcons @ Cardinals: Nothing has gone right for Atlanta this year, but at least after a bye week of rest, they can still come out and whip Tampa Bay. They’ll get another someone-their-own-size matchup this week with Arizona, and the NFL’s most hapless offensive line. The Falcons have Osi Umenyiora, who only plays like 5 snaps a game now, but still brings a pass rush when he’s on the field. He’ll have ample opportunity to notch some sacks this week. Still, the Falcons have been bad enough that the Vegas betting line has the Cardinals favored to win, for the first time this season.

Redskins @ Broncos: Manning and the Broncos were revealed to be mortal against the Colts, although in this case, “mortal” means “still frackin’ dangerous”. Beating the Broncos is going to require a high scoring affair. Suddenly, though, the Redskins are playing like a team that can play in high scoring affairs. RG3 looked something like himself for the first time last week against Chicago, and the ground game got rolling with a Morris/Helu backfield pairing. Still, keeping pace with Denver at Mile High is a tall order, and it’ll be a longshot.

Make Your Week 8 Pick’Ems Now!

Week 7 Results:
Infyrnos: 5-0
TheGameguru: 5-0
Stele: 4-1
Zaque: 4-1
Laarrs: 4-1
Jayhawker: 4-1
Oddsmakers: 4-1
Leroyog: 3-2
TrashiDawa: 3-2
Mudbunny: 3-2
Xeknos: 3-2
zellbrigen 26: 3-2
Jowner: 3-2
billt721: 3-2
Elliottx: 3-2
tboon: 3-2
onewild: 3-2
Grumpicus: 3-2
TempestBlayze: 3-2
psu_13: 3-2
Blackanchor: 3-2
Jasonofindy: 3-2
Nomad: 3-2
S0LIDARITY: 3-2
Kush15: 3-2
Thin_J: 3-2
Kosars: 3-2
LeapingGnome: 3-2
McFinn: 3-2
MilkmanDanimal: 3-2
oldmanscene24: 2-3
Top_Shelf: 2-3
AnimeJ: 2-3
kaostheory: 2-3
Bzzz: 2-3
Jolly Bill: 2-3
thejustinbot: 2-3
karmajay: 2-3
garion333: 1-4
iaintgotnopants: 1-4

Season to Date:
Oddsmakers: 25-10
tboon: 24-11
billt721: 23-12
Cobble: 23-7
mudbunny: 23-12
psu_13: 23-12
Zaque: 23-12
TheGameGuru: 23-12
Mudbunny: 23-12
Elliottx: 22-13
Laarrs: 22-13
McFinn: 22-13
oldmanscene24: 22-13
thejustinbot: 22-13
Jasonofindy: 22-13
Stele: 22-13
Kush15: 21-14
Jayhawker: 21-14
Kosars: 21-9
Leroyog: 21-14
MilkmanDanimal: 21-14
Thin_J: 21-14
Xeknos: 21-14
S0LIDARITY: 21-14
kaostheory: 20-15
karmajay: 20-15
Grumpicus: 20-15
iaintgotnopants: 20-15
Infyrnos: 20-15
LeapingGnome: 19-16
onewild: 19-16
Zellbrigen26: 19-11
Jolly Bill: 18-7
Bzzz: 18-17
garion333: 18-17
MudderFudder77: 16-9
Top_Shelf: 16-14
Secret Asian Man: 15-15
Jowner: 15-10
TempestBlayze: 15-15
Blackanchor: 15-15
FSeven: 12-13
paleocon: 11-9
Atras: 10-15
TrashiDawa: 10-5
AnimeJ: 9-11
Gumbie: 8-7
lostlobster: 4-6
Fedaykin98: 3-2
zellbrigen 26: 3-2
Nomad: 3-2
Certis: 2-3
Tempest Blayze: 2-3

Josh Freeman is doubt for WEEK 8 due to a concussion. My bet is he really has MRSA, but the Vikes are playing it off as a concussion.

garion333 wrote:
Josh Freeman is doubt for WEEK 8 due to a concussion. My bet is he really has MRSA, but the Vikes are playing it off as a concussion.

If you can get MRSA in the head, that would explain a lot about how the Bucs front office has been going this year.

I blame my 1-4 pick performance on Gumbie and Legion somehow subliminally making me pick the Titans and the Jags.

Vegas is now beating all of us.

I blame *Legion*'s picks. :p

Thursday night's game: CAR at TB

I fully expect Cam to continue to be accurate and for the Panthers' D line to have their way with the statue TB has at QB.

But Carolina being Carolina, they can figure out a way to screw this up.

I really don't expect this game to be all that watchable, to be honest. Legion, feel free to transfer some of your Thursday night viewing hours to Sunday GUILT FREE!

P.S. Don't mess with Steve Smith. You will lose.

I heard the condom line live on the radio yesterday and thought it was in poor taste. But, hey, Steve Smith, ladies and gentlemen.

Enix wrote:
But Carolina being Carolina, they can figure out a way to screw this up.

YOU SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH.

Ain't NOBODY who can find ways to screw up a game like Tampa.

BUC PRIDE!

This was linked on FO. Breaking Madden: The Buccaneers and their 44 Greg Schianos. It must be seen.

iaintgotnopants wrote:
I blame my 1-4 pick performance on Gumbie and Legion somehow subliminally making me pick the Titans and the Jags.

Hey now, the 3-3 Titans had a chance against the 49ers at home, but the Jags...wtf were you thinking?

Oh man it's worth reading for Greg Schiano anagrams alone.

And the gifs... so funny.

Gumbie wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:
I blame my 1-4 pick performance on Gumbie and Legion somehow subliminally making me pick the Titans and the Jags.

Hey now, the 3-3 Titans had a chance against the 49ers at home, but the Jags...wtf were you thinking?

Greg Schiano.

Gumbie wrote:
Hey now, the 3-3 Titans had a chance against the 49ers at home

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but the Jags...wtf were you thinking?

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RELEASE THE KRACKEN!

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That is a completely realistic version of a Greg Hardy sack.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Josh Freeman is doubt for WEEK 8 due to a concussion. My bet is he really has MRSA, but the Vikes are playing it off as a concussion.

If you can get MRSA in the head, that would explain a lot about how the Bucs front office has been going this year.

You can definitely get MRSA in the head; my middle daughter had a MRSA infection in her melon(specifically in an ear canal, colonized in a PE tube).

I know Matt Cassel is not a long term solution at QB, but he is still the best QB on the Vikings roster, Freeman included. He was far better than his tenure in KC indicated, as he was hampered by a crap OL, and an even crappier OC (except for his Pro Bowl year with Weis). And he, you know, won a game for Minnesota.

I think he deserved a much longer look than the Vikings have given him.

Jayhawker wrote:
I know Matt Cassel is not a long term solution at QB, but he is still the best QB on the Vikings roster, Freeman included. He was far better than his tenure in KC indicated, as he was hampered by a crap OL, and an even crappier OC (except for his Pro Bowl year with Weis). And he, you know, won a game for Minnesota.

I think he deserved a much longer look than the Vikings have given him.

I thought Cassel got released? I heard it somewhere...

Also, on the season tally up top, I noticed that last weeks score was put as a new person, not as me. Can we merge those two? I was 19-11 and 3-2 up there, all cause there was a space between the name and 26.

Jayhawker wrote:
I know Matt Cassel is not a long term solution at QB, but he is still the best QB on the Vikings roster, Freeman included. He was far better than his tenure in KC indicated, as he was hampered by a crap OL, and an even crappier OC (except for his Pro Bowl year with Weis). And he, you know, won a game for Minnesota.

I think he deserved a much longer look than the Vikings have given him.

Matt Cassell played well when he had an out-of-his-mind-awesome Randy Moss to throw to. Other than that, he stunk. He doesn't deserve a longer look; Cassell's at best an OK career backup. Starting Freeman after two weeks was stupid, but it was a logical move for Frazier; he's dead in the water unless things completely turn around. AP is not unexpectedly human again, so they have to have a passing game to score. Neither Ponder nor Cassell have shown they're capable of doing that. Freeman is a huge risk, but at least there's a possibility of upside there. I mean, if they start going mad bomber and completing some deep stuff, maybe it opens up for AP. Ponder and Cassell can't do that.

It's a roll of the dice for Frazier, but, if he doesn't risk it, he's 100% done at the end of the year. He started Freeman because it was something new and at least a potential way to keep his job.

It will fail.

I have more faith in Cassel than I do in Ponder. I'm a bit surprised they're going back to Ponder as Cassel did well enough in my eyes (not that I watch the Vikings this season ... who does? :P).

Why do London games have to be a home game for one team? Wouldn't it be more fair to have it be an away game for both teams?

garion333 wrote:
Why do London games have to be a home game for one team? Wouldn't it be more fair to have it be an away game for both teams?

Can't make the schedule come out evenly if you do that.

Do season ticket holders get a break in price for the year their team plays in London? Or do they get a tickets to that game and have to fly and hotel in London on their own dime??

TheGameguru wrote:
Do season ticket holders get a break in price for the year their team plays in London? Or do they get a tickets to that game and have to fly and hotel in London on their own dime??

Ticket holders of teams giving up a home game get their season ticket costs reduced by 1 game.

Teams going on an away game are, of course, unaffected.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Why do London games have to be a home game for one team? Wouldn't it be more fair to have it be an away game for both teams?

Can't make the schedule come out evenly if you do that.

I think you can though. Make the Jets and Giants in the same division. Done.

garion333 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Why do London games have to be a home game for one team? Wouldn't it be more fair to have it be an away game for both teams?

Can't make the schedule come out evenly if you do that.

I think you can though. Make the Jets and Giants in the same division. Done.

And see how many women get punched out?

Considering the melee will be giants and jets fans tho...

Greg Schiano, worse than MRSA (courtesy of Deadspin).

Apparently SI is now piling on the Schiano-must-DIAF-train. Yikes.

You watching tonight, MMD? I'm hoping someone wraps this game up early. I've got to be at my kid's school before sunrise so I can eat donuts with fourth-graders.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Why do London games have to be a home game for one team? Wouldn't it be more fair to have it be an away game for both teams?

Can't make the schedule come out evenly if you do that.

I also assume it has to do with how the gate/concessions/etc is split - the home team will take more of it, and for that reason I assume that the teams (at least on the business side) don't mind losing an actual home game one bit.

billt721 wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Why do London games have to be a home game for one team? Wouldn't it be more fair to have it be an away game for both teams?

Can't make the schedule come out evenly if you do that.

I also assume it has to do with how the gate/concessions/etc is split - the home team will take more of it, and for that reason I assume that the teams (at least on the business side) don't mind losing an actual home game one bit.

From Wikipedia:

Teams that are selected to give up a home game to play overseas are typically franchises that have been struggling with attendance at home games. In an effort to promote season ticket sales, this allows teams to sell a cheaper season ticket package that contains only seven regular season games rather than the usual eight.

There's no source, and I don't know if it's true, but it makes some sense, I guess.

I can tell you Rams fans flipped out when the team agreed to play home games in London two years in a row. They were convinced that stan was trying to move the team to London.

If Boston sweeps the Cardinals it won't be a huge problem, but next Monday, when the Rams play at home on Monday night and the Cardinals play Game 5 at Busch, there are predictions of less than 10K showing up.

Jayhawker wrote:
I can tell you Rams fans flipped out when the team agreed to play home games in London two years in a row. They were convinced that stan was trying to move the team to London.

If Boston sweeps the Cardinals it won't be a huge problem, but next Monday, when the Rams play at home on Monday night and the Cardinals play Game 5 at Busch, there are predictions of less than 10K showing up.

10,000? That sounds really absurd to me. Not selling out I can see, but only 10,000 people?

Do more than 10K people think the Rams will beat the Seahawks?

In the StLToday Rams forum, the prediction thread seems to be a competition as to ho can predict the worst blowout. I don't think anyone thinks the Rams can win. And most talk in town is already about where they will pick in the draft and what QB they can get.

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