World of Tanks: Catch All

Hmm... T1 is probably a bad "fun" introduction to Heavies. But if you stick with it, it'll teach you how to survive. It's a good training tank, but a bad "fun" tank. Especially if you're ok with training being achieved through painful lessons. You can definitely minimize the pain though, if you learn lessons about exposing different parts of your tank to enemy. And angling your surfaces properly. But these aren't necessarily lessons for your first heavy tank.

There are two advice routes I can add to the above "stick with it to learn painful lessons" advice. If you wish to stick with the American tree, then as of last patch, they changed the progression path. Now, if you go from M4 to M4A3E2, then you can go straight to T29. This is a fantastic grind route as it allows you to completely bypass M1 and M6 and go straight for T29 which is one of the better tanks in the game. My hesitation to pronounce that as a be-all-end-all path is that T29 should NOT be your first heavy tank in the game. It requires several advanced heavy driving techniques to play successfully and achieve its full potential.

Perhaps the most painless and fun route that I could suggest is to switch over to the Russian tree. KV-1 and onto KV-1S would probably be an easy and fun introduction to heavy tanks. Many people claim that KV-1S is the golden tank. It sports the same firepower as IS, but gets better MM ranking. Which means you get the same damage potential--therefore the same money making--but go up against lower level opponents. Chances are you'll see a lot of one shot kills with that tank. I imagine it plays very similarly to T29, but not as extremely.

To make money, the key is low repair rates and low ammo cost. As I mentioned a couple of posts ago, I'm having a hard time not losing money with my IS-3 because the repair cost of the tank is around $12k and each shell costs $1k. So every shell that misses or bounces or hits spaced armour puts me deeper into the hole I have to dig out of, just to break even and not lose money. A T5 tank that costs $1k to repair, on the other hand, and has rounds that cost $100 per shot, can easily make that money back and then some. Often times, the money you get for just participating will cover your expenses.

Robear wrote:

Thanks for the advice, guys.

I have you friended, but rarely see you on -- if I catch you on (though my work schedule has been rather insane lately) I'll send you an invite and we can certainly roll together.

I've been on in the daytime the last week, so taking it easy in the evenings. I'd be happy to play with you, though. Let me know when is good; Steam message maybe?

But I have to say that the stutter lag is getting really bad for me. If I start a scenario and the sound stutters, then the game will become unplayable in the next few minutes. Not sure how to fix it, it seems to have come in the last two patches.

Any ideas?

I love my Sherman! I have it fully upgraded, though using the 105. Tuesday night when I was platooning with a couple friends I one shotted a guy in a sniper spot in a city and then one shotted another guy I could barely see the top of his tank. haven't decided yet on what my next tank is, but might go spend some time with my Lee again and research the Priest.

If anyone wants to friend me, username is Rainsmercy....big surprise

If you've never played arty before, I suggest playing at least one country tree from scratch. Just to get a feel of what it's like.

Robear wrote:

I've been on in the daytime the last week, so taking it easy in the evenings. I'd be happy to play with you, though. Let me know when is good; Steam message maybe?

But I have to say that the stutter lag is getting really bad for me. If I start a scenario and the sound stutters, then the game will become unplayable in the next few minutes. Not sure how to fix it, it seems to have come in the last two patches.

Any ideas?

I can see you on you know We can work the steam message system when you're down for platooning.

Well, send me a message. I've been playing like 3 or 4 battles, then doing something else.

I finally got into arties, wow, they are fun! Just got the tier3, the one before the priest.

Rainsmercy wrote:

I finally got into arties, wow, they are fun! Just got the tier3, the one before the priest.

Yeah, the priest is a sad beast, but the M12 is a great one.

I've been doing Russian arties, have not started the American ones. I like the tendency of the Russians to be thumpers, one-hit kills make my day. And I get a good number of kills at the end of a scenario via direct fire.

Wow, the game really opens up around Tier V and Tier VI. Learning to use my VK's correctly, as well as my various light tanks, has made things much more enjoyable. I've even made a few outings with my scrawny little heavies.

Moondragon, I've been sick the last two weeks, maybe we can play again Sunday if you feel like it. I am not the biggest coop player, but I enjoyed platooning with you. I'd like to learn some more tricks, and I got the AMX-13 (the one after the ELC) all rigged out with camo and netting. And the VK's have 88's now.

Robear wrote:

Wow, the game really opens up around Tier V and Tier VI. Learning to use my VK's correctly, as well as my various light tanks, has made things much more enjoyable. I've even made a few outings with my scrawny little heavies.

Moondragon, I've been sick the last two weeks, maybe we can play again Sunday if you feel like it. I am not the biggest coop player, but I enjoyed platooning with you. I'd like to learn some more tricks, and I got the AMX-13 (the one after the ELC) all rigged out with camo and netting. And the VK's have 88's now.

The VK2801, pound for pound, is one of my favorite tanks to play -- in fact, that whole heavy German line is pretty darn great. The Tiger II and E-75 when run right become absolute monsters of the battlefield.

I'm just struggling to get past tier 5, my Sherman is my highest level tank. I think I am 2/3 of the way in exp to the Jumbo Sherman. Maybe when I get back from vacation next month I'll spring for a premium membership.

It makes all the difference..

At any rate, tomorrow, 1-17, the new update comes out and that includes Chinese tank lines.

Got my T1 and have gotten enough exp to get the upgraded treads/turret/gun, now to grind exp and get the better engines, t1s are slooooooowwww.

Had a good run one day last week in my M8 (American TD). It was the map with the ridge, and I was on the other side. I snuggled in on a rocky hilltop on the right flank of our team, and proceeded to hit 12 tanks (of 15 opposing) and kill 8. With standard ammo. Top Gun, Sharpshooter, Master Gunner and something else. What a rush. Our team was down by five at one point in the game, and then we won. I can't imagine what the other team was saying.

Robear wrote:

Had a good run one day last week in my M8 (American TD). It was the map with the ridge, and I was on the other side. I snuggled in on a rocky hilltop on the right flank of our team, and proceeded to hit 12 tanks (of 15 opposing) and kill 8. With standard ammo. Top Gun, Sharpshooter, Master Gunner and something else. What a rush. Our team was down by five at one point in the game, and then we won. I can't imagine what the other team was saying. :-)

That is one of my favorite TD's; can't take much abuse but, dishes it out real well.

The T49 is almost as good. Not as nimble, however.

Finally got my Hellcat. It's awesome. That is all.

Robear wrote:

The T49 is almost as good. Not as nimble, however.

Ye gods, enjoy it, because the T28 Prot is a slow, slow pig. Good, fast gun, but getting to some of the fights requires patience... before the update before last (or when they made gold rounds more readily available) it could at least take a shot on its heavy frontal armor and stand toe-to-toe with almost anything out there, but lately, I can't handle much and once you're flanked, you're finished. 16-18 kph on even ground or downhill, 4 kph up it. Here's to hoping that T30 is better.

I am glad the devs got on their horse with the M8 Hellcat and included it in the game after their egregious error of excluding it before the American TD patch. One of the most versatile and useful TDs the Americans fielded in WWII.

I find I enjoy the TDs, especially the nimble American ones, because it gives me a chance to damage heavies, and I can absolutely go to town on the little scouts and often the mediums too. I just need a good shooting position and the discipline to move before things get hot. I've gotten very good at deflection shots on fast movers, too. It's surprising how many people try to use speed to shortcut what would be a longer, safer path. I like them; they are my victims, in the end.

Nothing is as much fun as effectively shooting someone who can't see where you are. They sit there, track unzipped, turret going back and forth while shells slam into them. Oh, I remember that feeling from the other side, but this way around, it's great fun.

Get a camo net with TDs.

I know... But I'm still funding a few of the essential bits first. Guns, new turret, new radio, suspension...

camo nets are one of the few items that can be transferred from tank to tank.

Rainsmercy wrote:

I'm just struggling to get past tier 5, my Sherman is my highest level tank. I think I am 2/3 of the way in exp to the Jumbo Sherman. Maybe when I get back from vacation next month I'll spring for a premium membership.

Yeah, tier 5 is right when you start to notice the grind. It only gets worse from there. (Not in the way that it makes the game bad, but you will spend a looong time in a tier 5+ before getting into the next tank, and the next, and the next...)

I haven't played in ages, but I think I have a tier VIII, or 2, and a couple just a bit lower. Never spent a dime on the game, and still enjoyed it.

My apologies Robear. I haven't been online in 2-3 weeks. Moving/driving across the continent on a short notice will do that to you. In fact, this is the first time in 2 weeks that I'm even browsing GWJ.com.

I still don't have my computer set up at home. Should be done some time this week. Once I'm up and running, I'd love to platoon again. Running with AMX's was pretty damn fun last time.

As far as premium goes... I'd suggest holding off on it, until tier 7. Tier 5 should still go quite fast. If you make sure you take advantage of bonus weekends, and try to buy tanks when they are on sale, you'll be quite OK on money. Once you get into tier 7, the costs or running are starting to equal income. But costs of next tier are doubled. So it becomes significantly harder to earn money, and you need significantly more of it. For me personally, tier 8 is a zero sum game. At tier 8, I break even, or even lose money over time. But tiers 5 and 6 are a breeze.

Broke down and bought gold the other night, with several American tanks being on sale, I also bought a few days premium so I could more quickly grind my t1 heavy, and got my M6, and used gold to get 100% trained crew to start with. And the last battle with my T1 before I sold it? I got 6 kills and got the badge for it! I also used the gold to exchange for regular money and bought my Sherman Jumbo. So now I have 2 tier 6's!

Rainsmercy wrote:

Broke down and bought gold the other night, with several American tanks being on sale, I also bought a few days premium so I could more quickly grind my t1 heavy, and got my M6, and used gold to get 100% trained crew to start with. And the last battle with my T1 before I sold it? I got 6 kills and got the badge for it! I also used the gold to exchange for regular money and bought my Sherman Jumbo. So now I have 2 tier 6's!

The Sherman Jumbo with that 90mm gun is a lot of fun to play. I think you'll really enjoy it. The thing shoots really fast and, as long as you're showing the front of your tank, you'll also rack up a few steel walls for your trouble.

Alright, I just signed up, and this game is addictive as hell. Someone friend me so I can start dying with people I know insulting me.

Prederick wrote:

Alright, I just signed up, and this game is addictive as hell. Someone friend me so I can start dying with people I know insulting me.

Pred, what's your name in the game and I'd be happy to run with you..

Mine is Biacksheep (that is an I, not an 'l'). I've got some tier 2-4s I keep around for new players.