Fabulous Final Fantasy Franchise Discussion Catch-all

*shrug* I don't think it's a huge knock against the games or anything, but I also don't think it's unreasonable for people to wonder whether their progress might not carry over in some form.

TheMostRad wrote:
farley3k wrote:

Will it be the rest of the story or are they making a part 3?

No way in heck this covers "the rest of the story". From what we're seeing, I'd wager this will lead up to the end of original's Disc 1 (if even, still no footage of Cid).

EDIT: Okay probably further actually since we see a Weapon & the firing of the Junon Cannon.

There was a developer interview on the Playstation blog that says Rebirth will include locations up to "The Forgotten Capital".

Playing part one again since I started thinking about it and I forgotten how frequently it makes you stop and walk slowly. Time and time again you’re walking along until you have to walk slowly for no particular reason. I assume it’s doing some sort of loading in the background, but it is really noticeable and quite frustrating. It breaks the immersion like crazy.
Currently, I just want to walk with Arieth to the school, but I have to slowly walk past the whole town rather than be able to run.

Try viewing it as an opportunity to increase your sense of immersion. Would you sprint through a town at full speed the first time you entered? You’d likely take in the sights while taking your time. They’re trying to get you to really absorb the plight of life under the plates.

You can preorder Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. There are, of course, the expected fancy physical editions (including one with a Sephiroth statue).

What's more interesting to me is you can preorder both Remake and Rebirth together for the price of one game if you get them digitally. There are regular and deluxe editions of the "twin pack." It's a very cost effective way to start the series, and you can start playing Remake now, which should give you enough time before February 29.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 3 is "in the same situation today" as Rebirth was when development on the first game ended

So does that mean 4 years before part 3 comes out? I sure hope not but then I have a huge backlog and if it takes that long I won't be lacking in fun games to play.

I think three to four years is a reasonable assumption for the next game.

Some time ago I predicted they wouldn't finish it this decade. So they're on pace to prove me wrong.

Y'all might hate me for this, but what's the difference between Remake and Rebirth? Either way, I'm not in a rush for anything FF7 right now. I just finished replaying 6, and am in the middle of 4. Next up is The After Years, and then probably 5, since I find I've forgotten many of the details of the older games.

Remake is part one
Rebirth is part two

FF7 was originally one game so they cut the game into parts. Part one ends about when the team gests out of the first big city.

There will be a third part, as yet unnamed. "Reunion" is my guess, but we'll see in three or four years.

Rebirth is open world, and comes with all the same openness and baggage that are typical for the genre

Thanks for the clarification. Yeah, I'm really in no rush to re-play an as-unyet finished game.

Some folks here might enjoy this YouTuber's project that (probably?) just wrapped up. About 3 years ago he played Final Fantasy VII Remake after not playing any other game in the series, and he decided to review them all before Rebirth released. It's really entertaining and shockingly thorough (I never realized so many of the games had prequel books).

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...

Side Note: It's on my mind today because I just hit the third DLC of Stranger of Paradise. Hoooo boy does that take a swerve to connect to the deep lore of a sub-series that I was never going to play. Real glad I had a base understanding of it from those videos.

How good, worth it is Stranger of Paradise?

Darkhaund wrote:

How good, worth it is Stranger of Paradise?

I’m a huge fan of SoPFFO, and I’d recommend it fully as long as you enjoy action games like Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, or Onimusha.

If you’re just a Final Fantasy fan, but don’t like action games like that, I think it’s worth a playthrough on an easier difficulty. The plot in the game is bonkers, and begins making no sense, then makes all the sense, and is awesome. You could just watch the story on YouTube if hard action games are totally anathema.

If you’re neither into hard action or FF, I think it’s safe to skip it.

So I just finished the Yuffie DLC for Final Fantasy VII Remake, and I am wondering - can someone explain who the hell I fought in the final boss fight? And, whether that guy, or the guy he spoke with before the fight, ties into Rebirth at all?

Spoiler:

I've played Final Fantasy 7 before, but haven't really dabbled in the "expanded universe," so I would imagine that Nero and Weiss are from Crisis Core or Advent Children or something like that. I've certainly never heard of the organization they belong to. (Tvieste, or something like that?). I mean, human experimentation is par for the course for Shinra, and Nero reminds me a little bit of Vincent, so it wouldn't surprise me if this ties into something they'll be doing in Rebirth.

But I've heard that a lot of Rebirth's plot follows Disk 2 very faithfully, and it also wouldn't surprise me if this thing was some fan service nonsense that isn't really explained or teased out. I'd love a little info from someone who's been through the next game, if you wouldn't mind.

LastSurprise wrote:

So I just finished the Yuffie DLC for Final Fantasy VII Remake, and I am wondering - can someone explain who the hell I fought in the final boss fight? And, whether that guy, or the guy he spoke with before the fight, ties into Rebirth at all?

Spoiler:

I've played Final Fantasy 7 before, but haven't really dabbled in the "expanded universe," so I would imagine that Nero and Weiss are from Crisis Core or Advent Children or something like that. I've certainly never heard of the organization they belong to. (Tvieste, or something like that?). I mean, human experimentation is par for the course for Shinra, and Nero reminds me a little bit of Vincent, so it wouldn't surprise me if this ties into something they'll be doing in Rebirth.

But I've heard that a lot of Rebirth's plot follows Disk 2 very faithfully, and it also wouldn't surprise me if this thing was some fan service nonsense that isn't really explained or teased out. I'd love a little info from someone who's been through the next game, if you wouldn't mind.

You're on the right track. They're from Dirge of Cerberus.

As for Rebirth, I haven't played it first hand but I'm watching a pretty complete let's play and the only time it's come up has been in relation to Yuffie's trauma around the events. Nothing related to the plot machinations at all.

There are some very quick flashes to the events from the Yuffie DLC, but they don't feature prominently. I believe, in the end game sequences in the last chapters, it hints at them again, but I'm having trouble remembering how or what exactly. That should tell you how memorable or important it was.

It's possible it'll feature more prominently in part 3 when we go to Wutai.

If you don't mind spoilers for very late game Rebirth (end of chapter 13)

Spoiler:

Each of the characters (except Cloud) has to relive a traumatic moment from their past in the Temple of the Ancients. The scene with Sonon giving his life to let Yuffie escape is hers. Other than that, I do not remember Nero or Weiss coming up at all.

I also have zero extended universe knowledge, so they felt very out of the blue and stupid for me.

That's pretty much how they felt to me, too, and how the fight against whatever-they-were-called felt at the end of Remake.

I looked it up, the Whispers. It felt a lot like that. The game does such a great job with world-building at times, then can't help itself, at other times, from injecting extraneous nonsense.

LastSurprise wrote:

The game does such a great job with world-building at times, then can't help itself, at other times, from injecting extraneous nonsense.

Sounds like Tetsuya Nomura!

FF16 is coming to PC next month, and there's a demo you can play now.

beanman101283 wrote:

FF16 is coming to PC next month, and there's a demo you can play now.

I pity the SteamDeck that tries to play that absolutely gorgeous game.