Fabulous Final Fantasy Franchise Discussion Catch-all

Yeah, tongue was firmly in cheek when I called myself the authority. But this thread was essentially created to rank the games and I had to indulge myself once I hit my goal.

Mantid wrote:
steinkrug wrote:

Rankings ARE subjective, silly and arbitrary.

Yeah. I mean as long as FF6 is ranked #1, then the list is correct.

Just one of the many reasons we're friends. You have good taste, buddy.

steinkrug wrote:

Rankings ARE subjective, silly and arbitrary. :)

Unless you created the franchise and have final say!

That’s awesome!

Random thought: one of the less satisfying parts of XV was that some of the big, storied FF monsters show up, but very rarely are they mechanically as interesting as you’d hope. I’m thankful that VIIR righted the ship in that regard.

So what's it going to take to get a Final Fantasy game with female characters again?

For reference:

Looking forward to a return to medieval fantasy. Looks kinda grimdark, but i'm excited to see more.

Some more info: this is being developed by the same group responsible for Final Fantasy XIV and Dragon Quest Builders. Naoki Yoshida is producing, while Hiroshi Takai is directing.

Wow the rumor was true

Meanwhile, the FF15 team is working on Project Athia, which does have a female protagonist, but (probably) doesn't get the prestige of the Final Fantasy name.

Funny about the FF14 connection on FF16 though -- when I initially saw the trailer during the stream I spent most of it trying to figure if it was some sort of FF14 spinoff. I know there's usually some degree of shared language and iconography between Final Fantasy games, but if you told me this was either a prequel taking a look at somewhere closer to the heart of the Garlean Empire or a side story set in

Spoiler:

one of the other "echoes" of the source world

I would have completely believed it. Hell, other than the absence of the non-human FF14 races, I'd still totally believe it was the latter.

That could be cool. Hopefully they are reusing things (like Final Fantasy is wont to do) and not making a FFXV prequel.

Definitely has a XIV look to some of the characters. Although the one dude that seems like the protagonists looks like he stepped out of XV and his design is pretty boring. Honesty the trailer did not sell me. Yoshida being involved keeps me interested. One scene in the trailer had me thinking maybe a prominent female character but that did seem to play out.

I'm not sure what exactly I expected from the next Final Fantasy, but a DMC game was not on my list. At least we still have XIV. Beautiful, beautiful, amazing XIV.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

So what's it going to take to get a Final Fantasy game with female characters again?

Remakes...

Not a fan of that trailer. Looked like FFXV. Definitely a plus that it is medieval however.

Positive that it is not the people who made FFXV. If that matters.

steinkrug wrote:

One scene in the trailer had me thinking maybe a prominent female character but that did seem to play out.

The only women I spotted in that trailer (like, at all) were the slinky sexy lady who acted like a villain, and the little prince's mom. And Shiva, but I really don't think that counts.

The music in the trailer strongly reminded me of FFXIV as well. Would be amazing for Soken to get to score a single player game in the series.

Is slinky sexy lady the one that was talking to the older guy at the table? Something about their conversation made me think that whoever he was talking to was a warrior type so when I saw a female I thought there might be a possibility but then you never see her again.

A lot of the trailer looks to me like intro/setup stuff from the start of the game. Hopefully the next big info dump next year shows off more a more diverse set of party members.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I'm not sure what exactly I expected from the next Final Fantasy, but a DMC game was not on my list. At least we still have XIV. Beautiful, beautiful, amazing XIV.

Yeah, honestly whether FF16 ends up being good or not, my primary concern is that it doesn't drain away key talent from the FF14 team. I know I'm super late to the party here, and I'm only now hitting the second expansion, but it's so goddamn good I'd be heartbroken if they broke up the party. In so many ways it's the Final Fantasy I've been wanting but not getting since 10 and 10-2, and I want there to be as much of it as possible.

beanman101283 wrote:

The music in the trailer strongly reminded me of FFXIV as well. Would be amazing for Soken to get to score a single player game in the series.

They would be fools not to. Anyone who's played FF14 will tell you he's the second coming of Uematsu, and is one of the more important components of why that game works so well.

At the same time, seeing successful team members graduate out of the FF14 team and get the chance to direct their own titles is good for the franchise as a whole. Putting too much on the shoulders of a handful of old-guard folks is part of why they've struggled the last several years I think. If Shadowbringers' main scenario writers, Natsuko Ishikawa and Banri Oda, got to write a single player FF game, that would excite the hell out of me.

Oddly enough, I was wondering if it was an FFXV prequel given the talk of pushing back the blight and emphasis on summons and crystals. That it's a brand new game has me shocked.

That it takes place in a pure fantasy realm with a Ivalice-like feel and has some good ol' gritty bloodiness has me hyped as well.

A little disappointed that Squenix isn't brave enough to try a non-action combat system but also not surprised. They seem to have abandoned party systems altogether, though, which is... surprising. Wonder if they'll have more to reveal later since the opening looked like a party of four?

Ah well. I'll be watching the trailer over and over again, probably. I dug it.

So, yeah, the trailer did nothing for me. It really looks like a XV expansion pack.

That said, I'm open to more, obviously, but it looked decidedly current gen (pro) to me. Not that that's a huge issue to me at all, but maybe they have finally stopped trying to push their tech and art budget to the absolute forefront.

I don't get the impression that it's far along in development. It was debuted in the PS5 showcase, but the footage is on a PC that's only "emulating the PS5 experience".

Uh... This is weird. Gematsu asked Square-Enix about the PC version of the game and received the response: "We have no further information on if FF16 will be released on platforms other than the PS5." The press release doesn't mention any PC port, and the standalone trailer (linked above) doesn't mention it (the livestream did). Given that Sony accidentally announced Demon's Souls for PC then had to admit that was a mistake, I wonder if a similar mistake was made with Final Fantasy.

They've been pretty consistent with releasing PC ports 12 months after the console release the last several years, but being tight-lipped about it ahead of time. If FF7R doesn't get a port I'll start getting worried about 16.