Fabulous Final Fantasy Franchise Discussion Catch-all

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My two other fiesta jobs are Ranger and Samurai, headed out to World 2.

It's not as good as my video on VI but it's finally done and I can finally stop thinking about it and move onto something else.

"insufficiently hydrated party"

Love that

This has actually been the least interesting "Inside Final Fantasy" to me so far. Perhaps because I still haven't completed the game and perhaps because I haven't found much appreciation for the Gambit system, or maybe because the most interesting information regarding the game's troubled development is already out there. I dunno. Curious if anyone else will feel similarly or different.

I haven't watched the video yet ccesarano, is this regarding FFXII or somehow related to the FFVII remake?

It's Inside Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age.

I guess I don't understand what you mean about the games troubled development then, and your use of the "if anyone else will feel similarly" .. I guess it made me feel like you were talking about a new game somehow

Don't all final fantasy games have troubled development? I almost feel like it wouldn't be a FF game without it.

No, troubled development only really started with XII. The director left the game midstream because Square wanted young, vibrant protagonists and he wanted Baasch to continue being the lead. This caused delay and some muddling of the vision of the game. Every main line game since has run into arguably even more serious issues.

Troubled FF development is karma for killing Matsuno's interest in AAA development.

Edit: 10 mins in and I'm finding this one boring as hell. Lol

This made me chuckle

(FF summarised by The Simpsons)

Further down that Twitter thread:
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Poor Prompto gets such a bad rap.

Final Fantasy VIII Remastered will be out September 3rd.

I'm not surprised, but I'm still annoyed that despite owning the non-remastered version on Steam already, there is no discount or other incentive for picking up the remaster.

beanman101283 wrote:

Final Fantasy VIII Remastered will be out September 3rd.

I'm not surprised, but I'm still annoyed that despite owning the non-remastered version on Steam already, there is no discount or other incentive for picking up the remaster.

I must admit I might be a sucker. I pre-ordered the moment it came up on the store. I simply have been waiting for the remaster for too long. Mind, I still own my PS copy of it (the discs), but I've been feeling like it needed to be out and owned by me in some more current form.

I may be the exact target demographic hehehe.

It's on my Steam wishlist now, but it's definitely not a priority right now. I admit when I played it a couple years ago for the first time, I didn't feel very positive about it when all was said and done. But I'll probably revisit it at some point.

I spent $80 on the remake coming in March. With that, I've bought FFVII four times. That might be enough.

If I weren't done spending money on games this year, I'd probably get it, though.

Grenn wrote:

I spent $80 on the remake coming in March. With that, I've bought FFVII four times. That might be enough.

I've done the same; the original psone release, its digital version on psn, and the HD version on PS4 all preceding the pre-order of the remake itself.

I'll probably get it because of nostalgia; it was my first Final Fantasy, after all. But it's still not as bad as having five copies of FFXV (physical PS4, which I lost, digital PS4, Steam, Switch, and iOS).

sometimesdee, you gotta stop enabling me.

5 is a solid, number, though...

Grenn wrote:

sometimesdee, you gotta stop enabling me.

never!

FFVIII Remastered is on the PS Store. Might be getting it. $20, though.

Favorite observation: "He played the series before they put mascara on the character...so, never then?"

I also watched this while eating soy breakfast sausages.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

Favorite observation: "He played the series before they put mascara on the character...so, never then?"

I also watched this while eating soy breakfast sausages.

I love commentocracy. Easily my favorite pieces from Jim Sterling's output.

Feminist Tentacles is my new SJW bardic band. We're opening for Freyja's band {sexist slur}essa.

I've got FF15 Royal Edition on the way, and I'm going all in on the extra/supplementary material ahead of time. I've got Kingsglaive on hold from the library, and I'm going to check out that Brotherhood anime. Is there any other stuff to check out before starting the game?

I really enjoyed Kingsglaive it was pretty mindless but it felt like a proper Final Fantasy cutscene compared to other movies. I'd also say its pretty essential to have any idea what is going on in Ff15.

Don't have much else to add I think you got all the supplemental material, I heard good things about brotherhood but didn't bother with it myself.

Ff15 is an odd game it's got some really amazing moments and some questionable design decisions. Enjoy! I really should go back and try the dlc one day.

Brotherhood is good. I'd say it's pretty essential in explaining each companion's backstory and relation to Noctis -- in a way that goes beyond the vague passing references you'll find in the game. It's not impossible to play the game without it, but I'd still highly recommend it if you want to get the most out of the game.

I agree with both of the above comments. Kingsglaive is essential, as it takes a roughly 45 second cutscene and expands it to 90 minutes of important information. Brotherhood is some really good expository backstory, but not mandatory. Sometimes, however, I wonder if the folks writing game dialogue forgot about Brotherhood.

For example (spoiler for Brotherhood Episode 2, not so much for the game itself):

Spoiler:

When the boys stop at a rest area and Prompto suggests stopping at the Crow's Nest, and Iggy responds with something like "sure, if you want to gain weight." I mean, Ignis certainly knew that Prompto was overweight as a kid, because he'd seen him attempt to make friends with Noctis. It just comes across as excessively savage.

Thanks for the responses. I'm looking forward to finally starting this.

Cane and Rinse have been working their way through the mainline FF games over the past year or so. I always enjoy their podcasts but these ones in particular are a really nice mix of nostalgia and discussion in a more modern context. Not the most original concept, I know, but a good way to revisit some classics that I couldn't face actually playing again these days