Yet another headphone thread

How does the Q30 compare to the Q20?

WizKid wrote:

How does the Q30 compare to the Q20?

I like this guy for budget headphones. He gives more on features vs quality, so just keep that in mind.

I generally don't jump just one generation on something like this, so I'd put a price tracker on the Q35's instead. But it seems there are a couple of nice things with the Q30's.

BTW, the Soundcore App is pretty nice. One of the better headphone apps out there IMO.

Here's his video on the Q30 vs Q35. I'd like the pause on removal functionality. I just set up a price watch for $75 to maybe break my rule and just go up one gen if the price falls.

MannishBoy wrote:

Here's his video on the Q30 vs Q35. I'd like the pause on removal functionality. I just set up a price watch for $75 to maybe break my rule and just go up one gen if the price falls.

I would have but l think I'm going to wait out for a version that supports low latency Bluetooth so I can use them for PC games. My cat keeps destroying my Sennheiser wires.

Kurrelgyre wrote:

The video is great! It was extra funny to see a seasoned youtuber focused on audio who doesn't know that Samson is a company. Not that they're high end, but they've been firmly in the "solid value" space for audio production gear for decades. Maybe it's a "because Australia" thing.

I have no idea how Samson ranks in the headphone space, but my C01U USB condenser microphone is a workhorse that's served me well lo these past ten years. It's basically a Blue Yeti from before Blue Yeti was a thing. Fewer features that no one will ever use anyway, but comparable quality and price. Good enough for some light home voice acting work, great for streaming / podcasting, and fantastic for Discord / Zoom / whatever voice calls.

Other than the earcups being noticeably shallow and having to bend the headband outward a bit for my head (hooray, they're just metal), the mentioned model is astonishing for $42. My interest grew out of curiosity generated from Apple upgrading their music service to Lossless and Atmos. Some of the made-for-Atmos tracks sound overly complicated to me, if that's a thing, but I digress. The Samson's are heavily inspired by the AKG K240 according to one of his other videos, much like the Superlux HD-681, but considerably better balanced than the Superlux (the overemphasized bass on which oddly makes them popular with "gamers", even though you can't attach a mic to any of them).

I still mostly like my Superlux HD668B

pandasuit wrote:

I still mostly like my Superlux HD668B

Those are fantastic cheapies. I have had a pair for a few years.

*Legion* wrote:
pandasuit wrote:

I still mostly like my Superlux HD668B

Those are fantastic cheapies. I have had a pair for a few years.

I’ve got a ton of use out of them. I swapped the leather ear pads for velour almost right away. Main issue I have with them is the headband has always felt odd with those 2 pads instead of a band. I’ve always wondered if I could mod that into something better.

Speaking of Dankpods. I bought those Samsons and waiting for them. hhmm..

So it looks like my Xonar DGX is dead. I game exclusively with headphones and the thing I liked about that card was that it had "Dolby Headphone," which did a passable job of emulating surround sound for headphones. Is there any replacement hardware I could get that would do something similar? Would an external headphone amps do this?

Creative Labs has a bunch of usb based devices that can do what you want.

Great, thanks! Looks like the SB X3 or X4 is about what I'm looking for.

Edit. I messed up.

JohnKillo wrote:

Campfire Audio's Honeydew is pretty good. I think I'm good for IEMS. Bass heads I guess.

So.. I got the HD600s and they sound pretty fantastic even with my crappy no name Chinese Bluetooth amps and dacs. 300 dollars for 300 ohms. I know I should go spring for a "bottlecrack" or the stack but I'm okay.

I just bought a Samsung galaxy with no headphone jack. Bluetooth headphones, or just keep using my old phone for chores?

Mixolyde wrote:

I just bought a Samsung galaxy with no headphone jack. Bluetooth headphones, or just keep using my old phone for chores?

You can also get a USB C to 3.5mm jack adapter.

I've gone to using cheap wireless bluetooth earbuds most of the time (or my bone conducting headset). I do use an adapter if I want to use my over ear Sennheisers, though.

Bluetooth has gotten better enough that honestly it's fine for the vast majority of people.

I put on a pair of active noise canceling earbuds and then wear ear protectors over top of them when I mow the lawn. It's great.

Bluetooth headphones, no question. You'll never look back, once you've dropped the wire.

Caveat - the ONLY use case I still have for wired headphones is listening to music when I want absolutely the best audio quality available. Of course, that's largely because I have a Bluetooth set that already sound very nice (Sony noise cancelling WH-1000XM2), and the incremental audiophile gains of my nice wired Grado set plugged into the hifi isn't that much of a difference. But if I'm spinning new wax, I want the bestest best best.

The other use case was for PC gaming, as Bluetooth latency is often significant enough to make it useless for gaming - I tried the Sonys and there was a massive amount of latency. But then I got a low-latency pair of wireless (but not bluteooth) Steelseries Arctis 7s that are great, and retired the old pair of wired Sennheisers I was using for the PC. To be fair, there are Bluetooth headphones available today that have low enough latency to work for gaming, but it's a case of buyer beware.

So my current headphone stackup looks like this:

Podcasts and vocal content - wireless buds (Cambridge Audio Melomania, which I DON'T recommend, and I'm only using them until they die so I can buy a pair that's less sh*t)
Travel and non-audiophile music - Noise cancelling Sonys
Fancy music listenin' - wired set.
PC - wireless Steelseries Actis 7's

Thin_J wrote:

Bluetooth has gotten better enough that honestly it's fine for the vast majority of people.

I put on a pair of active noise canceling earbuds and then wear ear protectors over top of them when I mow the lawn. It's great.

Battery powered mower + IEM's. Much quieter. I bought an Ego mower about 6 years ago and love it for the sound reduction. Think maybe vacuum cleaner level.

MannishBoy wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

Bluetooth has gotten better enough that honestly it's fine for the vast majority of people.

I put on a pair of active noise canceling earbuds and then wear ear protectors over top of them when I mow the lawn. It's great.

Battery powered mower + IEM's. Much quieter. I bought an Ego mower about 6 years ago and love it for the sound reduction. Think maybe vacuum cleaner level.

I bought a battery powered mower this year too and I was able to drop the ear protection I was wearing over my earbuds. SO much less sweaty. Also not having to deal with gas is great.

I need to find some earbuds that stay in my ears. I don't know if everybody's ear eventually push out earbuds, but of the ~3 pairs I've used they all have done this. I swapped to foam tips and they work a lot better but they wear out and I can't be bothered to buy new tips every few months. I think I may have to try the ones that wrap around your ears.

MannishBoy wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

Bluetooth has gotten better enough that honestly it's fine for the vast majority of people.

I put on a pair of active noise canceling earbuds and then wear ear protectors over top of them when I mow the lawn. It's great.

Battery powered mower + IEM's. Much quieter. I bought an Ego mower about 6 years ago and love it for the sound reduction. Think maybe vacuum cleaner level.

I've looked into it multiple times. Can't get one that will last long enough to mow my yard on one charge without dropping at least $4-5000.

My current John deere still works. Until it doesn't in a way that is expensive to fix... forking up that kind of money just doesn't make any sense.

Until then... I'm good with my industrial grade ear protectors and active noise canceling.

EverythingsTentative wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

Bluetooth has gotten better enough that honestly it's fine for the vast majority of people.

I put on a pair of active noise canceling earbuds and then wear ear protectors over top of them when I mow the lawn. It's great.

Battery powered mower + IEM's. Much quieter. I bought an Ego mower about 6 years ago and love it for the sound reduction. Think maybe vacuum cleaner level.

I bought a battery powered mower this year too and I was able to drop the ear protection I was wearing over my earbuds. SO much less sweaty. Also not having to deal with gas is great.

I need to find some earbuds that stay in my ears. I don't know if everybody's ear eventually push out earbuds, but of the ~3 pairs I've used they all have done this. I swapped to foam tips and they work a lot better but they wear out and I can't be bothered to buy new tips every few months. I think I may have to try the ones that wrap around your ears.

What kind do you use? The Jabra Active ones are pretty good as they use a twist in place hold and can handle sweat / rain. I use them on 8Ks and lawn mowing (electric too!). The Galaxy buds do too but their plastic is a bit slick so not as good as the Jabras. All the cheapies I have used, and use, tend to work themselves loose over time.

EvilDead wrote:
EverythingsTentative wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

Bluetooth has gotten better enough that honestly it's fine for the vast majority of people.

I put on a pair of active noise canceling earbuds and then wear ear protectors over top of them when I mow the lawn. It's great.

Battery powered mower + IEM's. Much quieter. I bought an Ego mower about 6 years ago and love it for the sound reduction. Think maybe vacuum cleaner level.

I bought a battery powered mower this year too and I was able to drop the ear protection I was wearing over my earbuds. SO much less sweaty. Also not having to deal with gas is great.

I need to find some earbuds that stay in my ears. I don't know if everybody's ear eventually push out earbuds, but of the ~3 pairs I've used they all have done this. I swapped to foam tips and they work a lot better but they wear out and I can't be bothered to buy new tips every few months. I think I may have to try the ones that wrap around your ears.

What kind do you use? The Jabra Active ones are pretty good as they use a twist in place hold and can handle sweat / rain. I use them on 8Ks and lawn mowing (electric too!). The Galaxy buds do too but their plastic is a bit slick so not as good as the Jabras. All the cheapies I have used, and use, tend to work themselves loose over time.

My current ear buds are Soundcore Liberty Air 2's. I think they are great, especially for the price. I thought about getting the UE Fits but I'm worried it's a gimmick.

Thin_J wrote:
MannishBoy wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

Bluetooth has gotten better enough that honestly it's fine for the vast majority of people.

I put on a pair of active noise canceling earbuds and then wear ear protectors over top of them when I mow the lawn. It's great.

Battery powered mower + IEM's. Much quieter. I bought an Ego mower about 6 years ago and love it for the sound reduction. Think maybe vacuum cleaner level.

I've looked into it multiple times. Can't get one that will last long enough to mow my yard on one charge without dropping at least $4-5000.

My current John deere still works. Until it doesn't in a way that is expensive to fix... forking up that kind of money just doesn't make any sense.

Until then... I'm good with my industrial grade ear protectors and active noise canceling.

Understandable. I've got slightly less than 1/2 acre, which my mower does with just under 1/2 battery left.

We have a bunch of Ego stuff including a mower. A single charge is no barrier when you have swappable batteries. Throw the empty on the quick charger, put a charged one in. Easiest refueling ever.

I’m looking for a set of wired headphones for movies and gaming and occasionally some music with good noise isolation in an environment where people are loudly talking all the time and I really want to block them out. I need analog 3.5mm input because I’ll be plugging them into an analog mixer I’m using.

Should I be looking at something like the Audio-Technica ATH-M50x or is that overkill? Would they work with a basic consumer analog mixer? What about some of these Bluetooth headphones designed for noise isolation but using a wired connection instead of Bluetooth?

Are earbuds on the table? (I prefer not having things in my ears but in terms of noise isolation it's hard to beat a good seal with decent tips) What's your price range?