Superman vs Batman Movie Catch-All

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Ben Affleck

Thoughts?

I originally poo-poo'd Heath Ledger for The Dark Knight but he turned out to be the best thing in it. Also I thought Affleck was OK in Daredevil and the movie just had other problems

I'm going to try and keep an open mind.

Except Heath Ledger could act. Ben Affleck, while he seems like a cool guy, isn't a good actor. And he had his chance with Daredevil. He bombed. Ultimately, Batman has been more about its villains than the character so it may not be that bad. Still, to cast someone like that definitely makes it seem rather gloomy.

Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms yo!

ZaneRockfist wrote:

Except Heath Ledger could act. Ben Affleck, while he seems like a cool guy, isn't a good actor. And he had his chance with Daredevil. He bombed. Ultimately, Batman has been more about its villains than the character so it may not be that bad. Still, to cast someone like that definitely makes it seem rather gloomy.

Ben Affleck is great as a supporting actor. All the movies I like him in are supporting roles. State of Play, Good Will Hunting, etc.,. If he can manage to not ham it up....no, no I don't see this working at all.

So in other words he is the new George Clooney? I wonder if he'll have bat-nipples.

Such a boring, boring....boring....boring...just...boring choice.

I do remember Affleck being very good in Hollywoodland though. This just seems way out of left field for me and I already have my doubts whether the whole Batman vs Superman angle was the right way to proceed.

I guess I just had my hopes set on a Michael Fassbender or that fellow from True Blood or some such. Personally, Ray Stevenson would have been one of my top choices as well. Oh well.

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Nolan is involved, but then I also remember I hated the Dark Knight Rises so it's little comfort.

I'll be curious to see what Kevin Smith says about this since given his obsession with Batman and the fact that he and Affleck go way back.

Ballotechnic wrote:

I'll be curious to see what Kevin Smith says about this since given his obsession with Batman and the fact that he and Affleck go way back.

@ThatKevinSmith wrote:

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It doesn't sway me one way or the other. Then again, I don't think WB know what they're doing with their comics properties anymore, and it's going to be helmed by Zack Snyder, so it was kind of hard for me to care less about this to begin with.

Ballotechnic wrote:

Nolan is involved, but then I also remember I hated the Dark Knight Rises so it's little comfort.

You're dumb!

But yeah.... Not excited by this news. While I loved all of Nolan's Batmans, I still haven't seen Man of Steel. It's on my list...

Alien Love Gardener wrote:

It doesn't sway me one way or the other. Then again, I don't think WB know what they're doing with their comics properties anymore, and it's going to be helmed by Zack Snyder, so it was kind of hard for me to care less about this to begin with.

Not a fan of Snyder, but I thought Man of Steel was good. He definitely went overboard with the drawn out fight sequences. Had somebody stepped in to cut 30 minutes of the fighting, it would have been up there with the best superhero movies.

Man of Steel is a big reason I have no hope for this. After stewing on it a while, I'd probably rank it as the worst movie I've seen in theatres this year. The red letter media guys pretty much nailed why. Admittedy, the opening DnD campaign on Krypton was pretty entertaining, but after that it started going downhill, and by the end it had slid into a bottomless abyss.

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You know Marvel has to hate this. Not because I think any of these movies by other groups will actually compete with them, but that they will just ultimately make people much more reticent around superhero movies once they inevitably fail.

I am withholding judgement for the moment. I personally think Ben Affleck is a good actor and seems like a good guy, he isn't exactly who I would have expected for a Batman movie. But this could be good. Only time will tell.

Ugh. I was hoping for Josh Brolin or someone with more chops and the proper brood. Oh well, we shall see.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

After seeing Karl Urban's chin in Dredd I always thought he would make a good Batman.

I was also hoping for Brolin.

TempestBlayze wrote:

After seeing Karl Urban's chin in Dredd I always thought he would make a good Batman.

+1

Still, I'm willing to give Affleck the benefit of the d—OH f*ck WHO AM I KIDDING THIS IS THE WORST OF ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS

I thought he was decent in The Town as far as brooding.... but he isn't Batman.

That movie is going to be such an awful struggle anyway as Superman is already an established killer in this continuity and Batman is joining his story.

People can enjoy the story of the mortal usurping the gods and demi-gods but I have little faith in Snyder or Affleck to pull it off without me personally saying, 'Heat vision,' every time Bats manages to usurp Supes.

Doesn't he have some movie to direct? Seems like a weird strange career choice on his part.

Hes made a comeback to relevance with Argo and now hes going to be Batman?

Haven't seen Man of Steel but the reviews really cut from 'Good' to 'OMG stab me in the eyes'.

Just seems like a very strange franchise to get involved in. Your odds of coming out the other end like Christian Bale are like what 20%?

I absolutely despise this casting choice. Ten years ago I would have had a stroke over this and then tried to set the Internet on fire. Today I just simply do not care anymore. Batman has been my most favorite (and often only) comic book character for the past thirty years, and I have supported nearly everything within the Bat-family over that time (Batman and Robin excluded), but I have to walk away or disconnect from this now.

The Batman/DC "new 52" reboot over the past 18 months already had me questioning whether or not I will remain a lifetime fan of the character. This movie casting news just might finish me off.

I think people are too wrapped up in the Batman persona when discussing the casting choice. He's not just playing Batman, he's playing Bruce Wayne as well. A bunch of the recommended actors wouldn't be a very convincing playboy. I mean, I agree, I think an actor like Karl Urban would make a fantastic Batman, but I don't know about Bruce Wayne.

Then again, Ben Affleck may be the opposite. I must confess, I don't hate him as an actor, and from what I've been hearing movies like The Town and Argo have been really good. It could be he's matured as an actor. I also didn't hate him in Daredevil, as I feel he played the part he was written very well.

Of course, not so much into the Batman/Superman concept anyway, so we'll see.

jowner wrote:

Doesn't he have some movie to direct? Seems like a weird strange career choice on his part.

Directing will be there no matter what happens here.

What actor would turn down the opportunity to put on the cowl of Batman with the budgets this will have behind it? I'd bet he will make more money on this movie, even if it's mediocre, than he made on Argo, and possibly all the movies he's directed combined.

MannishBoy wrote:
jowner wrote:

Doesn't he have some movie to direct? Seems like a weird strange career choice on his part.

Directing will be there no matter what happens here.

What actor would turn down the opportunity to put on the cowl of Batman with the budgets this will have behind it? I'd bet he will make more money on this movie, even if it's mediocre, than he made on Argo, and possibly all the movies he's directed combined.

Rumor is Bale was offered $50 mil and turned it down. Whether that's true or not, I imagine Affleck was hardly the first choice, and plenty of actors don't want to be tied into a several-movie-franchise.

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Eh, Affleck can ham it up with the best, but I've seen him put in some solid performances too.

I'm just suffering from slight Batman fatigue myself. It's a whole other can of worms, but I really would rather see a Wonder Woman movie.

ccesarano wrote:

I think people are too wrapped up in the Batman persona when discussing the casting choice. He's not just playing Batman, he's playing Bruce Wayne as well. A bunch of the recommended actors wouldn't be a very convincing playboy. I mean, I agree, I think an actor like Karl Urban would make a fantastic Batman, but I don't know about Bruce Wayne.

Then again, Ben Affleck may be the opposite. I must confess, I don't hate him as an actor, and from what I've been hearing movies like The Town and Argo have been really good. It could be he's matured as an actor. I also didn't hate him in Daredevil, as I feel he played the part he was written very well.

Of course, not so much into the Batman/Superman concept anyway, so we'll see.

Here's the problem with that: Batman is Batman first. A lot of people seem to make the assumption that when he puts on the mask, he becomes Batman. No, when he puts on the 'mask,' he becomes Bruce Wayne. Ben Affleck could be Bruce Wayne, but I just don't see him as Batman at all.

Don't get me wrong, I like Affleck. I think he's an alright dude and wish him the best. But you don't cast Affleck as Batman. That's like casting him as a tough guy mobster.

ccesarano wrote:

Rumor is Bale was offered $50 mil and turned it down. Whether that's true or not, I imagine Affleck was hardly the first choice, and plenty of actors don't want to be tied into a several-movie-franchise.

Which seems so silly to me. Actors have such entitlement issues.

ZaneRockfist wrote:

Which seems so silly to me. Actors have such entitlement issues.

Maybe Bale wants to work on other projects?

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