Stardew Valley: A Spiritual 'Successor' to Harvest Moon

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
tboon wrote:

I hate fishing.

NO!

YES I do hate it! Luckily there's other things to do.

tboon wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:
tboon wrote:

I hate fishing.

NO!

YES I do hate it! Luckily there's other things to do.

Just throw on that easy fishing mod and do away with it.

Edit: It occurs to me that I probably should have left out that "NO!" I at least should have thrown in a smiley face, and I was trying to joke-argue in a not-so-serious manner.

Sorry about that!

I really wonder if people who hate the fishing just aren't doing it right. It can be super easy to misunderstand what you're supposed to do.

tboon, hit me up on Steam and I'll show you how to love the fishing.

_Free_ wrote:

I really wonder if people who hate the fishing just aren't doing it right. It can be super easy to misunderstand what you're supposed to do.

Possibly? I found it really frustrating until I learned to click instead of holding the mouse down.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
tboon wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:
tboon wrote:

I hate fishing.

NO!

YES I do hate it! Luckily there's other things to do.

Just throw on that easy fishing mod and do away with it.

Edit: It occurs to me that I probably should have left out that "NO!" I at least should have thrown in a smiley face, and I was trying to joke-argue in a not-so-serious manner.

Sorry about that!

Edit:
I think I know what I am supposed to be doing:
1. Select rod near some water.
2. Hold down to cast, release when gauge is at or near max.
3. Wait.
4. When a hit happens, click the mouse to keep the green bar centered on the fish. Don't hold down because the green bar will fly up, but don't not click because the green bar will sink down.
5. Do this until the bar on the right fills up, if it ever does.
5a. More likely (for me) the bar on the right goes down because the #$%# fish swam out of the green bar, I #$%#%$# over-clicked and the #$%#$%# green bar flew above the #$%#$%# fish, and then, when I got the %$#$%@!$ bar over the fish, the #@$%#!%^$ fish swam down and then the @%$#[email protected]^% bar on the right was depleted. And I went back to check on some crops or cut some grass or something.

Yeah, Easy Fishing mod for me, please.

Tamren wrote:
_Free_ wrote:

I really wonder if people who hate the fishing just aren't doing it right. It can be super easy to misunderstand what you're supposed to do.

Possibly? I found it really frustrating until I learned to click instead of holding the mouse down.

Jesus, you're using a mouse for that? What made me learn to love the fishing mini-game was picking up the controller.

It might depend on your mouse how easy it is, too. I use a combination of clicking quickly and holding a bit with mine, and it's amazing. Feels really satisfying.

kazooka wrote:

Jesus, you're using a mouse for that? What made me learn to love the fishing mini-game was picking up the controller.

Does it work any differently with the controller? All I do is use measured clicking to get the bar to hover a specific level, if I need it to go up I just hold the button down for a bit. It's tricky because it has quite a bit of inertia.

A slightly altered suggestion on _Free_'s greenhouse spoilers:

Spoiler:

As far as I can see, the single most valuable crop you can reasonably plant is cranberries, not strawberries. Strawberries are a solid #2, but cranberries beat them bigtime. My greenhouse is almost full (less one line, and less the quality sprinklers), and nets about 35K per harvest. I think it would be more if I'd planted with quality fertilizer instead of speed fertilizer; I was hoping for more cranberries instead of better ones, but speed fertilizer only seems to affect the time to first crop, not subsequent fruitings.

I'm waiting on the next seed's harvest to be certain, but it appears planting Rare Seeds from the traveling merchant can make a boatload of money; they cost $1K each, but the resulting Sweet Gem Berry is worth anywhere from 3000 to 4500 gold. If you do get a gold one (remember your fertilizer) and then make wine, the resulting bottle should sell for $13,500. It takes about five weeks before it's ready (four weeks growing, one week fermenting), but I don't think any other crop can produce that kind of return, about $450 per planted day, plus a week of a tied-up fermenter. They're pretty limited supply (2/week?), so it's more of a nice extra than a mainstay moneymaker.

Also, I haven't tried it, but I bet a bottle of that would go over GREAT at the harvest festival.

kazooka wrote:
Tamren wrote:
_Free_ wrote:

I really wonder if people who hate the fishing just aren't doing it right. It can be super easy to misunderstand what you're supposed to do.

Possibly? I found it really frustrating until I learned to click instead of holding the mouse down.

Jesus, you're using a mouse for that? What made me learn to love the fishing mini-game was picking up the controller.

I'm using the mouse for fishing too...well for the entire game actually.

(And it's odd because I typically choose a controller whenever I have a choice.)

But the real secret to getting good at fishing is just failing forward for a while until you get more fishing levels from simply trying, even if you don't catch any fish. I barely caught a single fish when I first started out, and even mentioned it in this thread at the time. (When I too was graciously informed of the magical rapid mouse clickings!) But now that my fishing is at level 10 (and it happened long before level 10), I rarely miss a fish unless it's one of those really crazy ones(or I've spent too long trying to grab a treasure box), and most of the time I'm not even using any lures since I don't remember to carry them with me.

I have maxed fishing, maxed equipment and I still run into non-boss smug asshole fish. You can't win them all.

Malor wrote:

A slightly altered suggestion on _Free_'s greenhouse spoilers:

Spoiler:

As far as I can see, the single most valuable crop you can reasonably plant is cranberries, not strawberries. Strawberries are a solid #2, but cranberries beat them bigtime. My greenhouse is almost full (less one line, and less the quality sprinklers), and nets about 35K per harvest. I think it would be more if I'd planted with quality fertilizer instead of speed fertilizer; I was hoping for more cranberries instead of better ones, but speed fertilizer only seems to affect the time to first crop, not subsequent fruitings.

I'm waiting on the next seed's harvest to be certain, but it appears planting Rare Seeds from the traveling merchant can make a boatload of money; they cost $1K each, but the resulting Sweet Gem Berry is worth anywhere from 3000 to 4500 gold. If you do get a gold one (remember your fertilizer) and then make wine, the resulting bottle should sell for $13,500. It takes about five weeks before it's ready (four weeks growing, one week fermenting), but I don't think any other crop can produce that kind of return, about $450 per planted day, plus a week of a tied-up fermenter. They're pretty limited supply (2/week?), so it's more of a nice extra than a mainstay moneymaker.

Also, I haven't tried it, but I bet a bottle of that would go over GREAT at the harvest festival.

Are you sure that the value of gold produce carries over to wine and jam? I should run the math on that.

Bought the game today. Fun so far.
Was close to a rage at the first fishing attempt, but as soon as it clicked it has been fairly easy. From time to time a fish pop up that moves super fast and erratic, but I guess that is supposed to happen.

Tamren wrote:
kazooka wrote:

Jesus, you're using a mouse for that? What made me learn to love the fishing mini-game was picking up the controller.

Does it work any differently with the controller? All I do is use measured clicking to get the bar to hover a specific level, if I need it to go up I just hold the button down for a bit. It's tricky because it has quite a bit of inertia.

Not really, but the controller is designed for those rapid button presses, whereas the mouse, unless you've got some fancy Starcraft gaming mouse going on, really isn't. It's a much more natural feeling for me on the controller.

The easy way to level you fishing early on is the pond south of farm. The fish there are rather meek.

Finally got a spot freed up in a keg, and.... Sweet Gem Berries don't ferment. Sigh.

Might be able to do jam with them, but I won't be able to try for awhile.

I'm so happy! I finally got the greenhouse! Haven't done anything with it yet, but it's mine!

Upgraded to a big barn and added a goat. It's so cute!

Finally decided to just remove my wooden fences and lay down wooden paths where they used to be instead. Having to keep repairing fences *every single day* for 2 in-game years even wore down my patience, and I can generally tolerate a lot. Yes, I could use iron, but I wanted wood for aesthetics! (And I only recently found a source of hardwood and want to use that for other things besides fencing.) Eventually, I probably will put up hardwood fencing over the wood paths so that I can have my aesthetics back, but right now I am tired of carrying around a huge stack of wooden fence poles on a regular basis.

Well this happened

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Usually, we get to blame this kind of thing on Japan.

Jonman has no one to blame (or thank) for that but himself.

Just a quick query I was hoping someone would be able to help me with - I have a couple of decorative items (a big geode and a painting) but I can't seem to be able to place them anywhere in the house. Is there something I'm missing here? Thanks

Are you using a mouse or a controller? Placement is a bit difficult using a controller until you get used to it. Also, you can only place things one square away from your body, and it won't let you place the item if your body is even a bit within the square you're trying to place. If you use a mouse, it'll show you a red/green box as you move your mouse around to show whether the square is valid for placement, which makes it a lot easier to understand.

merphle wrote:

Are you using a mouse or a controller? Placement is a bit difficult using a controller until you get used to it. Also, you can only place things one square away from your body, and it won't let you place the item if your body is even a bit within the square you're trying to place. If you use a mouse, it'll show you a red/green box as you move your mouse around to show whether the square is valid for placement, which makes it a lot easier to understand.

Playing with a controller. I tried it the same way I would use it to place, say, a torch, by using the right analogue stick to move the cursor and waiting until the square turned green. Still nothing though, even when I'm stood in a position where I think it should work. I'll have another look this evening and report back.

THTT wrote:
merphle wrote:

Are you using a mouse or a controller? Placement is a bit difficult using a controller until you get used to it. Also, you can only place things one square away from your body, and it won't let you place the item if your body is even a bit within the square you're trying to place. If you use a mouse, it'll show you a red/green box as you move your mouse around to show whether the square is valid for placement, which makes it a lot easier to understand.

Playing with a controller. I tried it the same way I would use it to place, say, a torch, by using the right analogue stick to move the cursor and waiting until the square turned green. Still nothing though, even when I'm stood in a position where I think it should work. I'll have another look this evening and report back.

I had this same problem - eventually realized the "place" action was mapped to Y or something that wasn't immediately intuitive, a different button that what you would press to place things like seeds and whatnot.

Btw, ConcernedApe/Eric Barone did an AMA on Reddit and it has some fun info. A lot of it repeats what he's said in recent interviews but he did answer a few questions about his plans for the game.

Plus he gave this link to a webcomic he did back in '11 which is apparently where the character is from that' s on a poster in Sebastian's room.

I love that we may be able to move buildings in the future without having to demolish and rebuild elsewhere (or hack a save file). I'm fine with my buildings for the moment, but can easily see myself wanting to move everything around as the farm expands and I get new ideas.

So, only three days in. Met the purple/blue haired pale chick, and was "yup, she's the one I'm going to marry". However, she is super moody (which is aligned with the goth stereotype), and doesn't like the flower I tried to give her as a present.

What does she like? Clams I find on the beach?

Totally serious here: She eats rocks. Her favorite is

Spoiler:

amethyst.

I'm at 9 hearts with her, hoping to raise it to the max.

Edit: Alright, she does like some other stuff too. You can read this totally spoilery list of Abigail's loves & likes in wiki form.

merphle wrote:

Totally serious here: She eats rocks. Her favorite is

Spoiler:

amethyst.

I'm at 9 hearts with her, hoping to raise it to the max. :)

And she loves those

Spoiler:

fall gourds - pumpkins are also a love of hers

However, it's really hard to not love Leah and Harvey. They both like my two biggest exports:

Spoiler:

They both love wine, and Harvey also loves anything I pickle. What a sweetie.

And yes, same sex marriages are allowed in the game, for anyone that wasn't aware.

Leah also loves

Spoiler:

salad and it's only 220 at the saloon. Available from day 1!

danopian wrote:
THTT wrote:
merphle wrote:

Are you using a mouse or a controller? Placement is a bit difficult using a controller until you get used to it. Also, you can only place things one square away from your body, and it won't let you place the item if your body is even a bit within the square you're trying to place. If you use a mouse, it'll show you a red/green box as you move your mouse around to show whether the square is valid for placement, which makes it a lot easier to understand.

Playing with a controller. I tried it the same way I would use it to place, say, a torch, by using the right analogue stick to move the cursor and waiting until the square turned green. Still nothing though, even when I'm stood in a position where I think it should work. I'll have another look this evening and report back.

I had this same problem - eventually realized the "place" action was mapped to Y or something that wasn't immediately intuitive, a different button that what you would press to place things like seeds and whatnot.

It worked Turned out I had to press X to drop the items down. Thanks a bunch!