Google Chromecast

Hmmm... casting might be good... I do download movies onto my phone a lot.

What are the limits on that? can you cast anything on your phone?

manta173 wrote:

Hmmm... casting might be good... I do download movies onto my phone a lot.

What are the limits on that? can you cast anything on your phone?

Only from supported apps, but there are a lot of them now: https://www.google.com/chrome/device...

I'm not an Android guy, but I think there are apps where you can pretty much cast anything from your device.

I was looking at the Roku stick the other day, since it comes free with Sling TV, was thinking about that. Some of the reviews mentioned that you can't do a lot of hotel wifi with it, because many of them require you to open a web browser and login and the Roku stick doesn't do that.

Not sure if there's been any update to the device or if that's still true, but that's what some reviews said.

Yeah, to get either to work in a hotel, you'll probably have to open your own wifi hotspot.

Stele wrote:

I was looking at the Roku stick the other day, since it comes free with Sling TV, was thinking about that. Some of the reviews mentioned that you can't do a lot of hotel wifi with it, because many of them require you to open a web browser and login and the Roku stick doesn't do that.

Not sure if there's been any update to the device or if that's still true, but that's what some reviews said.

Perhaps I could cast videos from my phone especially if I have already downloaded them or if I connect my phone to wifi.

Nevin73 wrote:

Yeah, to get either to work in a hotel, you'll probably have to open your own wifi hotspot.

Or a cheap travel router. Connect the travel router to hotel wifi, then connect the stick to the travel router.

Travel routers start at around $20, and can be handy when you're using devices where you can't get through the ToS stuff easily.

I have never heard of a travel router... lol I guess I should have assumed one existed.

manta173 wrote:

I have never heard of a travel router... lol I guess I should have assumed one existed.

Amazon search with several.

Have you thought about just getting a HDMI adapter for your phone instead? That might prove to be a simpler option for playing content from your phone than trying to stream it to a Chromecast.

I've heard the Amazon Fire Stick actually does work with hotel wifi. I've been looking for one for travel too, and that might be the ticket.

New Chromecast is out now!

I ordered one immediately since I use it on a daily basis. What a great update.

Chromecast presentation at this link

If it doesn't work with the ethernet adapter they released for the old one they can keep it.

BTW, a word of warning regarding Chromecast use on the road. We went to a hotel on a recent trip and the wifi was the type where you have accept the terms of service (thus we couldn't use it with the Chromecast). So I created a wifi hotspot thinking that it wouldn't use up much data. I was very wrong. It soaked up about a gig and a half or so of data. The Chromecast must stream the media from the content source regardless of whether the media is on the device or not.

Yep, it does.

Thin_J wrote:

If it doesn't work with the ethernet adapter they released for the old one they can keep it.

It uses the same micro usb so I don't see why not.

TempestBlayze wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

If it doesn't work with the ethernet adapter they released for the old one they can keep it.

It uses the same micro usb so I don't see why not.

Me either, but I can't find a single word anywhere about the new one saying it will or won't. Until I see something definitive I can't see buying one.

Nevin73 wrote:

BTW, a word of warning regarding Chromecast use on the road. We went to a hotel on a recent trip and the wifi was the type where you have accept the terms of service (thus we couldn't use it with the Chromecast). So I created a wifi hotspot thinking that it wouldn't use up much data. I was very wrong. It soaked up about a gig and a half or so of data. The Chromecast must stream the media from the content source regardless of whether the media is on the device or not.

I think you need to look into getting one of those $20 portable travel routers, and use it to bridge the hotel's wireless (or wired) network to a private wifi hotspot, which Chromecast then could use.

I'm confused... what does the new chromecast do that the other one doesn't?

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

BTW, a word of warning regarding Chromecast use on the road. We went to a hotel on a recent trip and the wifi was the type where you have accept the terms of service (thus we couldn't use it with the Chromecast). So I created a wifi hotspot thinking that it wouldn't use up much data. I was very wrong. It soaked up about a gig and a half or so of data. The Chromecast must stream the media from the content source regardless of whether the media is on the device or not.

I think you need to look into getting one of those $20 portable travel routers, and use it to bridge the hotel's wireless (or wired) network to a private wifi hotspot, which Chromecast then could use.

We don't travel often, but yeah, this might be a really good idea.

Iridium884 wrote:

I'm confused... what does the new chromecast do that the other one doesn't?

1080p is the only improvement I care about really.

Iridium884 wrote:

I'm confused... what does the new chromecast do that the other one doesn't?

I wish they'd made this clearer -- the only obvious difference is that the new one has much better WiFi, with new antennas and support for 5Ghz networks (the old one only worked on 2.4Ghz networks), which is great for people like me in dense apartment buildings that are full of 2.4Ghz networks all trying to interfere with each other.

Presumably the new one has a faster SoC as well, and maybe some of the gaming stuff and other features they talked about in the press conference will only work on the new one, but no-one seems to know for sure yet. We probably won't have to wait too long to find out, though -- the new Chromecasts are already shipping, so reviews should start hitting soon.

pneuman wrote:
Iridium884 wrote:

I'm confused... what does the new chromecast do that the other one doesn't?

I wish they'd made this clearer -- the only obvious difference is that the new one has much better WiFi, with new antennas and support for 5Ghz networks (the old one only worked on 2.4Ghz networks), which is great for people like me in dense apartment buildings that are full of 2.4Ghz networks all trying to interfere with each other.

Presumably the new one has a faster SoC as well, and maybe some of the gaming stuff and other features they talked about in the press conference will only work on the new one, but no-one seems to know for sure yet. We probably won't have to wait too long to find out, though -- the new Chromecasts are already shipping, so reviews should start hitting soon.

Cool. Thank you.

I think I'm going to grab one of these. The Fire TV Stick I bought for my upstairs TV has been absolute garbage.

Iridium884 wrote:

I'm confused... what does the new chromecast do that the other one doesn't?

I believe it also allows you to browse content directly via the device, rather than having to find it on your phone or tablet first.

Mine will be arriving tomorrow! I will let you all know how it works out. I currently have a 2.4 ghz router but Fios is sending the newer 5ghz router so I get to try it out and see the speed difference.

Amazon to ban sales of Chromecast and Apple TV.

[quote]Over the last three years, Prime Video has become an important part of Prime...It’s important that the streaming media players we sell interact well with Prime Video in order to avoid customer confusion."

They could support the Chromecast if they wanted to. I think it's the revenue share issue that's really the problem. Same reason Amazon Prime Instant Video isn't in the Play store, but can be had from Amazon's Android app store.

There is no customer confusion that I can see. This is full on competitive tactics. That I doubt they've got enough clout to have much effect with. I'll buy from Google, BB, or the gazillion other places that I can buy these.

[quote="MannishBoy"]Amazon to ban sales of Chromecast and Apple TV.

Over the last three years, Prime Video has become an important part of Prime...It’s important that the streaming media players we sell interact well with Prime Video in order to avoid customer confusion."

They could support the Chromecast if they wanted to. I think it's the revenue share issue that's really the problem. Same reason Amazon Prime Instant Video isn't in the Play store, but can be had from Amazon's Android app store.

There is no customer confusion that I can see. This is full on competitive tactics. That I doubt they've got enough clout to have much effect with. I'll buy from Google, BB, or the gazillion other places that I can buy these.

I don't agree with this, but I think this will be the initial step that will eventually make the Amazon Prime Video app both a) become a separate app from the general purchase app, and b) finally become available in the Google Play Store.

ie, this is a bad thing that will bring good things down the line.

I love Amazon but that's annoying.

At the same time, I still use Amazon Prime Instant Video on my Android phone, it works fine in Chrome. Or it did the last time I tried it. It's annoying not to have an app but whatever. I would assume you can do the same thing with Chromecast if you have a PC/laptop browser to send.

Does it not actually work or it's just not officially supported?

Stele wrote:

I love Amazon but that's annoying.

At the same time, I still use Amazon Prime Instant Video on my Android phone, it works fine in Chrome. Or it did the last time I tried it. It's annoying not to have an app but whatever. I would assume you can do the same thing with Chromecast if you have a PC/laptop browser to send.

Does it not actually work or it's just not officially supported?

You know you don't have to use Prime Instant Video through Chrome. There is an app, it's just not in the Play store. It's in Amazon's own appstore.

Again, I assume so they don't have to give google a cut of Prime revenue.

Oh at one point it was for Amazon Fire devices only, and wouldn't work on regular Android devices.

EDIT: Yeah there it is, released late Aug, 2014. Oh well. Installed now.