JRPG Catch-All

By saying I had played the Zelda games, I meant that that was the closest thing I had ever played to a JRPG. I think of a JRPG as a traditional battle JRPG and an AJRPG like Zelda or Nier as more of just an RPG.

I know you are all just playin with me, but I figured I should clarify.

Tyrian wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Yeah, I considered including that, but I suppose I didn't want to make things confusing.

So you instead referred to Zelda as a JRPG? Talk about not confusing the issue. ;)

That's like Darksiders, right?

I'm not sure what's worse: opening the door for Darksiders discussion, or opening the door for a Zelda is/is not an RPG debate

ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's kind of a kiddie version of Darksiders, yeah.

This will never cease to bring a smile to my face.

shoptroll wrote:
Tyrian wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Yeah, I considered including that, but I suppose I didn't want to make things confusing.

So you instead referred to Zelda as a JRPG? Talk about not confusing the issue. ;)

That's like Darksiders, right?

I'm not sure what's worse: opening the door for Darksiders discussion, or opening the door for a Zelda is/is not an RPG debate :(

Yeah, I had a huge internal debate over whether it was REALLY worth it to potentially drag the thread down that path (at least 30 whole seconds).

Apologies to all involved! I promise not to do it again!

Tyrian wrote:

Apologies to all involved! I promise not to do it again!

We will forgo the usual summoning of the fierce assault pugs... this time.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's kind of a kiddie version of Darksiders, yeah.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

It's kind of a kiddie version of Darksiders, yeah.

37% more childish...clocked!

Full list from Xseed:

We have a lot of new things to share today! KILLER IS DEAD (PS3/360), Rune Factory 4 (3DS), Valhalla Knights 3 (Vita), Ys: Memories of Celceta (Vita) and Ys I&II Chronicles+ (Steam) will all be coming to the West.

What is KILLER IS DEAD?

SixteenBlue wrote:

What is KILLER IS DEAD?

Suda-51's new game!

Not a JRPG.

I see Xseed likes money.

ccesarano wrote:

I see Xseed likes money.

They're certainly quite enamored of mine.

Blind_Evil wrote:

Suda-51's new game!

Not a JRPG.

I really really really need to get around to No More Heroes. *sigh*

shoptroll wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

Suda-51's new game!

Not a JRPG.

I really really really need to get around to No More Heroes. *sigh*

Yes, really.

Finally started playing Monster Hunter Freedom Unite after months of trying to track down a physical copy, then finally letting my collector's OCD waver and downloaded it from PSN. (For a third of the price I was going to pay for a physical specimen.)

No one told me this game was insane. It's like the cute version of Dark Souls. Where DS wants to beat you down and rebuild you in their image, Monster Hunter likes to beat you down and make you smile while they do it. It's just...so odd.

I'm five hours into Tales of the Abyss on the 3DS. In a lot of ways, it feels like playing an old Squaresoft game from the PS1 days. The camera angles, the type of storytelling, and the enemy designs are all very '90s Squaresoft.

I don't feel like I've gotten a good handle on the combat just yet. At this point, I feel like I'm mostly button mashing, whacking things with a sword and then throwing in an Arte or two just to hit a different button. The game just introduced the concept of Fonic circles but did such a piss-poor job of it that I don't have a good understanding at all of how they work.

The storyline's a bit of a mixed bag at this point. The characters are interesting and well-designed, and there's a nice diversity to the characters. I wouldn't for a minute recommend this game to people who hate the child heroes and angsty teenagers of the stereotypical JRPG, but I'm impressed by the range of characters and that the writers had the guts to make the protagonist, Luke, the least sympathetic character in the bunch.

What's disappointing about the writing is that some of it is just flat-out bad. The characters are prone, as characters in anime often are, to talking in great detail about technical aspects of the game's world that the player hasn't been introduced to. I recognize that the endless conversations about Fonstones, Fonic artes, and the Hymns of Yulia are meant to be my introduction, and that—like Luke—I'm supposed to be puzzling this out as I go along, but it's all presented in such a ham-fisted and, frankly, boring way that it's more off-putting than engaging.

Another way to put it would be that they've gotten me interested in the characters but somewhat disinterested in the world.

Speaking of 3DS JRPGs, Siliconera had this nice summary of some of the changes they're making for the 3DS port of Dragon Quest VII that are meant to modernize the game and correct against some of the game's more notorious issues:

Siliconera[/url]][Series producer Noriyoshi] Fujimoto actually sat down and played through the PlayStation version of Dragon Quest VII with Yuji Hori, the creator of the Dragon Quest series. He mentioned that even Hori realized how difficult the game was with all the problem solving and puzzles. When they made the original version, the idea was to make a "riddle solving adventure" game. During their recent play, even Hori pointed out the change of era. Fujimoto said, "Solving some of the puzzles felt very exhilarating at times. Whenever you got stuck in the game, the frustration would build up."

With that in mind, they’ve decided to add features such as the stone shard radars. They also worked on making the overall tempo better for a smoother game play. From the starting point of Estard Island to the number of puzzles and overall difficulty, they’ve revised many things for the upcoming 3DS version.

Another big change is how early players will be able to experience their first battle in the Nintendo 3DS version. In the original Dragon Quest VII, it took a good hour or longer until the first fight. This time around, they’ll be introducing the fight earlier so players can enjoy their adventure while participating in heated battles from start to end.

Due to the story volume of Dragon Quest VII, some found that the leveling pace felt really slow compared to other Dragon Quest titles. For the 3DS edition, they’ll be increasing the leveling pace so it can be up to par with the other DQ titles in that regard. The addition of the visual encounters was meant for that purpose, allowing players to have the choice to fight whenever they want.

The idea is to make the game easier to play, not making it easier overall. By allowing players to have more decision making, rather than forcing them to fight or solve puzzles, it makes for a better tempo. The tough enemies will still be just as tough. They’ve made useful spells, such as Evac (used to escape from dungeons,) to be available at earlier levels in the game.

Who has played Golden Sun: Dark Dawn? I really liked the orginal 2, but never got around to picking up the third. Amazon has it for $13. Worth it?

A friend of mine that works for Gamestop back home said told me that if I want a copy of Pandora's Tower, I had for damned sure better preorder it from them or Amazon. He's been my friend longer than he's worked for GS, so I don't think he's pulling my leg on this one.

IUMogg, Golden Sun: Dark Dawn is one of many franchises Nintendo fans were frothing at the mouth for and proceeded to completely ignore. I think I've seen maybe one person on the site who actually played it.

And pre-ordered..

IUMogg wrote:

Who has played Golden Sun: Dark Dawn? I really liked the orginal 2, but never got around to picking up the third. Amazon has it for $13. Worth it?

It's pretty OK. If you're looking for more of the original two, then it's perfectly fine.

It's got some problems(incredibly slow opening, you can miss things almost immediately, etc.), but it's decent.

For $13, it's worth picking up, if you were invested in the first 2.

Blind_Evil wrote:

A friend of mine that works for Gamestop back home said told me that if I want a copy of Pandora's Tower, I had for damned sure better preorder it from them or Amazon. He's been my friend longer than he's worked for GS, so I don't think he's pulling my leg on this one.

Thanks for the reminder... aaaaand done!

I need to dig up some actual trailers and previews, see what the gameplay entails. The premise is intriguing, but it's widely regarded as the worst-playing of the three Operation Rainfall games.

Edit: Well, this settles that. I'll preorder next time I'm out.

Just got gamefly and added and bunch of jrpgs to my list. That along with everything else should keep me occupied for the next uh decade.

Blind_Evil wrote:

I need to dig up some actual trailers and previews, see what the gameplay entails. The premise is intriguing, but it's widely regarded as the worst-playing of the three Operation Rainfall games.

Really? I had not heard that at all. That's a bummer, but worst of 3 really good games isn't a bad thing, I guess.

SixteenBlue wrote:

Really? I had not heard that at all. That's a bummer, but worst of 3 really good games isn't a bad thing, I guess.

I think I read Famitsu gave it somewhere between 30/40 - 32/40. It's the lowest of the group.

shoptroll wrote:
SixteenBlue wrote:

Really? I had not heard that at all. That's a bummer, but worst of 3 really good games isn't a bad thing, I guess.

I think I read Famitsu gave it somewhere between 30/40 - 32/40. It's the lowest of the group.

It's been reviewed by plenty of English-speaking outlets as well, since it came out in Europe last year.

To me, the trailer and premise together are enough to want to form my own opinion.

You know what else got bad reviews?

Hitler.

No wait, that's not right.

You know what else got bad reviews?

Nier. QED.

Minarchist wrote:

You know what else got bad reviews?

I hardly consider 70-80% ratings to be "bad". Although that really depends on the outlet and/or author.

Minarchist wrote:

You know what else got bad reviews?

Hitler.

No wait, that's not right.

You know what else got bad reviews?

Nier. QED.

Ergo, Nier = Hitler.