NHL 2013: Blackhawks Stanley Cup Champs ; Kovalchuk bails on NHL and $77 million

Another impressive win by the Canes tonight, 4-2 over the Eastern Conference-leading Devils. That concludes their 6-game road trip with a 4-1-1 record. Surprising after their slow start. The E. Staal-A. Semin-J. Tlusty line is looking very dangerous as of late, particularly with Tlusty scoring 5 goals in the last two games.

Rough loss to Philadelphia tonight. Bryz was on his game tonight. Ugh!

Dysplastic wrote:

The CBC broadcast of it was especially rough to watch, as during Leafs-Habs CBC turns into LeafsTV. I've disliked Bob Cole for some time now but never as much as saturday night. That being said, when your team is sucking its easy to take your aggression out on the commentators.

I've been listening to CBC rip on the Leafs for years and years. Glenn Healy is the worst for it, he just loves tearing into a team that's making mistakes. But yeah, they got carried away Saturday night singing the Leafs praises. Bob Cole - I like his voice and his delivery, but that's about it. He's well past his prime for playcalling a game. He was making all kinds of mistakes both in calling the action and in getting player names incorrect. He shouldn't be doing the play-by-play on a big game like Leafs - Habs on Saturday night.

The good news is that recently CBC has been putting Jim Hughson on the Leafs games most of the time. He's excellent, I like him.

Speaking of LeafsTV though, those guys are way worse. I know I'm the only Leafs fan here so I'm the only one dealing with it, but it's so annoying listening to Joe Bowen butcher game after game. He makes Bob Cole sound like he's young and sharp-eyed. The same crew covers the Leafs on Sportsnet too so I'm hearing them doubly often. They're terrible Leafs homers (to be expected, but not that strongly, please), they apparently can't read numbers on jerseys and they regularly lose track of the play.

TSN has some good guys doing play by play. Of course, Leafs on TSN are always national broadcast, so they had better.

Rangers @ Bruins : The last two minutes of regulation was just un-freaking-believable. I can't believe the Bruins managed to pull a point of that game with the way Lundquist was playing.

Bruins are infuriatingly solid this year. Clutch scoring, able to defend leads, and find ways to win or get points. Incredibly frustrating. And Rask being much more likable than Thomas makes them that much less hate-able. Really annoying.

Nice shot of Saad's "goal" last night. (I'm a Hawks fan and that was questionable, but I'll take it)

IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/GcVWX5r.png)

If we could somehow figure out this skill competition thing now. Perhaps the Hawks get a little too comfortable with a lead in the 3rd, but we haven't had a loss in reg (or OT) yet so I don't have much to complain about. (except the PP)

imbiginjapan wrote:

Rangers @ Bruins : The last two minutes of regulation was just un-freaking-believable. I can't believe the Bruins managed to pull a point of that game with the way Lundquist was playing.

Wish I was a fly on the wall to hear Tortorella after the game.

Dysplastic wrote:

Bruins are infuriatingly solid this year. Clutch scoring, able to defend leads, and find ways to win or get points. Incredibly frustrating. And Rask being much more likable than Thomas makes them that much less hate-able. Really annoying.

No such thing as Boston being less hate-able. :p They're as hate-able as ever. Marchand, Lucic, Ferrence. Bad sportsmanship - always looking for a cheap shot. Bergeron, Seguin, Chara, and Rask are the only guys on that team I have any respect for.

Karlsson is pretty much done for the season after Matt Cooke recklessly went into the boards with him and managed to slice his Achilles.

No means implying it was on purpose but I think the level of aggression was. Not sure how in that motion or situation your skate should be a foot off the ice. For me its the equivalent of going studs up in soccer which isn't acceptable. Of course this will probably just blow over cause hockey is a real tough mans game or some other bullsh*t.

http://deadspin.com/5984212/

theres a video attached.

jowner wrote:

Karlsson is pretty much done for the season after Matt Cooke recklessly went into the boards with him and managed to slice his Achilles.

No means implying it was on purpose but I think the level of aggression was. Not sure how in that motion or situation your skate should be a foot off the ground. For me its the equivalent of going studs up in soccer which isn't acceptable. Of course this will probably just blow over cause hockey is a real tough mans game or some other bullsh*t.

http://deadspin.com/5984212/

theres a video attached.

Eh, it's a sh*tty injury (Bieksa had the same injury and it took him two years to fully recover and feel comfortable) but it's just Cooke losing balance like always done and accidently doing something stupid. Which is strange because Cooke usually purposefully does stupid things. It should blow over just because it's a relatively common injury. It shows how skilled these guys are that it doesn't happen more often.

Vector wrote:
jowner wrote:

Karlsson is pretty much done for the season after Matt Cooke recklessly went into the boards with him and managed to slice his Achilles.

No means implying it was on purpose but I think the level of aggression was. Not sure how in that motion or situation your skate should be a foot off the ground. For me its the equivalent of going studs up in soccer which isn't acceptable. Of course this will probably just blow over cause hockey is a real tough mans game or some other bullsh*t.

http://deadspin.com/5984212/

theres a video attached.

Eh, it's a sh*tty injury (Bieksa had the same injury and it took him two years to fully recover and feel comfortable) but it's just Cooke losing balance like always done and accidently doing something stupid. Which is strange because Cooke usually purposefully does stupid things. It should blow over just because it's a relatively common injury. It shows how skilled these guys are that it doesn't happen more often.

That doesn't make it ok. Other sports go out of their way to protect players. Brady losses a season from a fairly innocent play and the NFL correctly knee jerked out a positive response.

But your right it will blow over and thats whats wrong with hockey.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/articles...

this part is understandable as theres not really anything on the book for it. The tragedy is down the line when they don't entertain the prospect of whacking guys with heavy suspensions for being reckless.

I think the socks and ankles are an area of protective equipment that needs to be improved. Materials are getting better where the sock can be made of better things than cotton so as to resist getting cut by a skate. Players will obviously be concerned about performance, but if there is a way to do it better the league should adopt it.

I'm being vague because I don't know much about what's possible, but I've heard talk on this front before and it really needs to happen. Special protective socks - this can happen.

I don't think there is too much to complain about on Matt Cooke's hit. It looked mostly unlucky to me.

A win in Detroit is a good way to end a losing streak. I hope Hitch has got these guys' attention. It's been ugly.

No cheering please, we're Canucks fans

Standing, chanting during Tuesday's NHL game doesn't go over well with other fans, as two people ejected

The Southsiders are going to stick to soccer.

Unhappy with the reception they received Tuesday night from Canucks staff and security personnel at Rogers Arena, the group of boisterous Vancouver Whitecaps supporters don't plan a return visit any time soon.

About 75 of the Southsiders attended the game between the Canucks and Minnesota Wild and sat in the back rows of Section 301 in the upper bowl of Rogers Arena. They stood, chanted and sang for much of the first period, but during the first intermission were visited by several security officers and Canucks staff.

Don't the Southsiders know proper Rogers Arena etiquette when watching a Canucks game? You are allowed to:

a) Sit silently
b) Text on your Blackberry
c) Not show up at all (especially popular with lower-bowl season ticket holders)

The total deadness of Canucks "fans" (combined with the ever-rising ticket prices) made watching games at the rink less and less appealing, such that I haven't been in two or three years and don't miss it. It's like having tickets (especially season tickets) is just a status thing in Vancouver. You don't get a BMW in Vancouver because you like German cars, and you don't get Canucks tickets because you like hockey.

Anybody else's city as embarrassing as mine?

Rams football is exactly like that. It's a terrible atmosphere. Blues games are awesome, though.

Gravey wrote:

No cheering please, we're Canucks fans

Standing, chanting during Tuesday's NHL game doesn't go over well with other fans, as two people ejected

The Southsiders are going to stick to soccer.

Unhappy with the reception they received Tuesday night from Canucks staff and security personnel at Rogers Arena, the group of boisterous Vancouver Whitecaps supporters don't plan a return visit any time soon.

About 75 of the Southsiders attended the game between the Canucks and Minnesota Wild and sat in the back rows of Section 301 in the upper bowl of Rogers Arena. They stood, chanted and sang for much of the first period, but during the first intermission were visited by several security officers and Canucks staff.

Don't the Southsiders know proper Rogers Arena etiquette when watching a Canucks game? You are allowed to:

a) Sit silently
b) Text on your Blackberry
c) Not show up at all (especially popular with lower-bowl season ticket holders)

The total deadness of Canucks "fans" (combined with the ever-rising ticket prices) made watching games at the rink less and less appealing, such that I haven't been in two or three years and don't miss it. It's like having tickets (especially season tickets) is just a status thing in Vancouver. You don't get a BMW in Vancouver because you like German cars, and you don't get Canucks tickets because you like hockey.

Anybody else's city as embarrassing as mine?

Yes. Ottawa is brutal. I mean, the fans are ok, but the atmosphere is really a family-friendly one and not really boisterous as I enjoy my sporting events. I blame the location of the arena - you have to drive half an hour to get there, and that's not counting the traffic. I love Ottawa, but Scotiabank place represents everything I hate about it, which is why I dislike the Sens vehemently despite making Ottawa my home (I do consider myself a 67's fan, though). One time during a Sens-Oilers game I went to, the people next to me left with 10 whole minutes left in the third period to beat the traffic leaving the arena. What's the point in going to a game if you're only going to stay for 5/6 of it?

I feel a bit bad for Sens fans though because the arena gets 50% filled with Leafs and Habs fans during games against those teams - which is awesome for me as a Habs fan (Best arena I've ever been to is the Bell Centre, btw) but sucks for Sens fans. Still, it's their own god damn fault for building an arena in the middle of nowhere.

Dysplastic wrote:

One time during a Sens-Oilers game I went to, the people next to me left with 10 whole minutes left in the third period to beat the traffic leaving the arena. What's the point in going to a game if you're only going to stay for 5/6 of it?

Oh man, that's another one I forgot: when there's five minutes left, half the arena starts filing out. Canucks winning? Gotta beat the traffic. Canucks losing? Gotta beat the traffic. Tie? Should probably beat the traffic anyway.

Blues games are hands down my favorite sporting event to attend. I haven't been able to go since I moved to Oregon but fond memories nonetheless.

The ACC in Toronto is terrible, too. This is mostly the lower bowl, but the thing to do there is leave when there is 5 minutes left in the period to beat the lines to buy beer in the concourse, and don't return to your seats until 5 minutes into the next period either. It's so painful to see the seats by the ice 3/4 empty at the start of each period. Don't those platinum seats have drink delivery anyway? Where are they going?

The Bell Centre in Montreal is the best. I go a couple times a year, usually, and it's just great. Great atmosphere, loud and energetic.

Gravey wrote:
Dysplastic wrote:

One time during a Sens-Oilers game I went to, the people next to me left with 10 whole minutes left in the third period to beat the traffic leaving the arena. What's the point in going to a game if you're only going to stay for 5/6 of it?

Oh man, that's another one I forgot: when there's five minutes left, half the arena starts filing out. Canucks winning? Gotta beat the traffic. Canucks losing? Gotta beat the traffic. Tie? Should probably beat the traffic anyway.

A lot of people going to games don't live in Vancouver and if you don't leave a little early it can take an extra hour and a half to get home on top of the regular hour plus drive. If it's weekday game or Sunday they have to work the next morning.

The atmosphere isn't so bad. Playoffs are outstanding. I went to so many games that I took a different enjoyment than most people. Ticket prices are obscene and the amount of season and half season tickets they offer should be reduced by at least 20%.

And I can name a tonne of cities more embarassing than Vancouver. Starting with Dildo.

jowner wrote:
Vector wrote:
jowner wrote:

Karlsson is pretty much done for the season after Matt Cooke recklessly went into the boards with him and managed to slice his Achilles.

No means implying it was on purpose but I think the level of aggression was. Not sure how in that motion or situation your skate should be a foot off the ground. For me its the equivalent of going studs up in soccer which isn't acceptable. Of course this will probably just blow over cause hockey is a real tough mans game or some other bullsh*t.

http://deadspin.com/5984212/

theres a video attached.

Eh, it's a sh*tty injury (Bieksa had the same injury and it took him two years to fully recover and feel comfortable) but it's just Cooke losing balance like always done and accidently doing something stupid. Which is strange because Cooke usually purposefully does stupid things. It should blow over just because it's a relatively common injury. It shows how skilled these guys are that it doesn't happen more often.

That doesn't make it ok. Other sports go out of their way to protect players. Brady losses a season from a fairly innocent play and the NFL correctly knee jerked out a positive response.

But your right it will blow over and thats whats wrong with hockey.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/articles...

this part is understandable as theres not really anything on the book for it. The tragedy is down the line when they don't entertain the prospect of whacking guys with heavy suspensions for being reckless.

Players don't like wearing the protective bracers that are available because they limit the range of movement. The technology isn't quite there yet but it's coming along.

I'm not really familiar with what you're talking about with Brady. I tend to be against strong reactions to fluke plays. Part of the reason there was a dead puck era was the enforcement of not entering the crease because two goalies were injured in weird plays.

The NHL is different than the NFL in that, most, NHL teams spearhead player protection rather than the league. From what I've heard and read teams are constantly trying new equipment and methods to increase player safety. They aren't amazing at it but they are doing it. NHLers play longer than NFLers and teams like to maximize that.

Cooke suspended for that? What? It was an accidental play. Unless you're referring to the NHLs general terribleness at handling discipline, fines, and suspensions. That I'll agree with. Absolutely unfashionable at how bad they are at policing the players.

Vector wrote:

The atmosphere isn't so bad. Playoffs are outstanding. I went to so many games that I took a different enjoyment than most people. Ticket prices are obscene and the amount of season and half season tickets they offer should be reduced by at least 20%.

Not to mention the NHL just raised prices to some of the highest in the four big leagues! Sorry about the lockout!

But yeah, having been to a few Red Bulls games last year, the absolute quiet I heard at a Caps game I went to a few years ago (and this is when they were still good) was stunning. It seemed like near-total silence, unless a big hit or a goal was scored, or the scoreboard told you to.

A lot of it is just the price. And I guess it can be considered unfair to compare Baseball/Hockey/Basketball crowds to soccer/College crowds, just because the schedule is so much longer in those three sports. It's hard to find fans willing to get up for 40-odd games a year, rather than just 6 or 18.

That said, I still think places should embrace a Standing/Cheering section for fans who want to get loud and support the home team for all three periods, not just when you're told to.

Also, DAMMIT RANGERS.

Vector wrote:
jowner wrote:
Vector wrote:
jowner wrote:

Karlsson is pretty much done for the season after Matt Cooke recklessly went into the boards with him and managed to slice his Achilles.

No means implying it was on purpose but I think the level of aggression was. Not sure how in that motion or situation your skate should be a foot off the ground. For me its the equivalent of going studs up in soccer which isn't acceptable. Of course this will probably just blow over cause hockey is a real tough mans game or some other bullsh*t.

http://deadspin.com/5984212/

theres a video attached.

Eh, it's a sh*tty injury (Bieksa had the same injury and it took him two years to fully recover and feel comfortable) but it's just Cooke losing balance like always done and accidently doing something stupid. Which is strange because Cooke usually purposefully does stupid things. It should blow over just because it's a relatively common injury. It shows how skilled these guys are that it doesn't happen more often.

That doesn't make it ok. Other sports go out of their way to protect players. Brady losses a season from a fairly innocent play and the NFL correctly knee jerked out a positive response.

But your right it will blow over and thats whats wrong with hockey.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/articles...

this part is understandable as theres not really anything on the book for it. The tragedy is down the line when they don't entertain the prospect of whacking guys with heavy suspensions for being reckless.

I'm not really familiar with what you're talking about with Brady. I tend to be against strong reactions to fluke plays. Part of the reason there was a dead puck era was the enforcement of not entering the crease because two goalies were injured in weird plays.

The NHL is different than the NFL in that, most, NHL teams spearhead player protection rather than the league. From what I've heard and read teams are constantly trying new equipment and methods to increase player safety. They aren't amazing at it but they are doing it. NHLers play longer than NFLers and teams like to maximize that.

Cooke suspended for that? What? It was an accidental play. Unless you're referring to the NHLs general terribleness at handling discipline, fines, and suspensions. That I'll agree with. Absolutely unfashionable at how bad they are at policing the players.

Brady lost a season when a defensive player took out his knees from continuing to play from the ground.

My point is more that the NHL is being served up a perfect opportunity to ram through some rules like I dunno... "Please keep your very sharp skate blades on the ice or we reserve the right to whack you with a hefty suspension if we deem fit." At worse what does this do? it just plants the seed in certain type of players minds that they are being watched to consider their play.

Even if its an extremely rare occurrence the outcome is pretty devastating to what the NHL is trying to sell. Even if a rule like that only ends up curbing 1 injury in a 2-3 year span its something. Its at least addressing the fact that people don't spend money to see meat heads like Matt Cooke run around.

Dysplastic wrote:
Gravey wrote:

No cheering please, we're Canucks fans

Standing, chanting during Tuesday's NHL game doesn't go over well with other fans, as two people ejected

The Southsiders are going to stick to soccer.

Unhappy with the reception they received Tuesday night from Canucks staff and security personnel at Rogers Arena, the group of boisterous Vancouver Whitecaps supporters don't plan a return visit any time soon.

About 75 of the Southsiders attended the game between the Canucks and Minnesota Wild and sat in the back rows of Section 301 in the upper bowl of Rogers Arena. They stood, chanted and sang for much of the first period, but during the first intermission were visited by several security officers and Canucks staff.

Don't the Southsiders know proper Rogers Arena etiquette when watching a Canucks game? You are allowed to:

a) Sit silently
b) Text on your Blackberry
c) Not show up at all (especially popular with lower-bowl season ticket holders)

The total deadness of Canucks "fans" (combined with the ever-rising ticket prices) made watching games at the rink less and less appealing, such that I haven't been in two or three years and don't miss it. It's like having tickets (especially season tickets) is just a status thing in Vancouver. You don't get a BMW in Vancouver because you like German cars, and you don't get Canucks tickets because you like hockey.

Anybody else's city as embarrassing as mine?

Yes. Ottawa is brutal. I mean, the fans are ok, but the atmosphere is really a family-friendly one and not really boisterous as I enjoy my sporting events. I blame the location of the arena - you have to drive half an hour to get there, and that's not counting the traffic. I love Ottawa, but Scotiabank place represents everything I hate about it, which is why I dislike the Sens vehemently despite making Ottawa my home (I do consider myself a 67's fan, though). One time during a Sens-Oilers game I went to, the people next to me left with 10 whole minutes left in the third period to beat the traffic leaving the arena. What's the point in going to a game if you're only going to stay for 5/6 of it?

I feel a bit bad for Sens fans though because the arena gets 50% filled with Leafs and Habs fans during games against those teams - which is awesome for me as a Habs fan (Best arena I've ever been to is the Bell Centre, btw) but sucks for Sens fans. Still, it's their own god damn fault for building an arena in the middle of nowhere.

I was at the Sens Montreal game on Super Bowl Sunday. Pretty over rated crowd. Besides the Molson cheap section that has pretty much full time hype girls the rest of the crowd was pretty much.... like every other mediocre crowd. People in Montreal were clearing out in the lower bowl with 3 minutes left in a 2-1 game.

jowner wrote:

I was at the Sens Montreal game on Super Bowl Sunday. Pretty over rated crowd. Besides the Molson cheap section that has pretty much full time hype girls the rest of the crowd was pretty much.... like every other mediocre crowd. People in Montreal were clearing out in the lower bowl with 3 minutes left in a 2-1 game.

You can't really count afternoon games, IMO. I've been to afternoon games in MTL too and I agree they suck. Again, very family oriented. But don't they suck everywhere? My problem is every game in Ottawa feels like an afternoon game.

jowner wrote:
Vector wrote:
jowner wrote:
Vector wrote:
jowner wrote:

Karlsson is pretty much done for the season after Matt Cooke recklessly went into the boards with him and managed to slice his Achilles.

No means implying it was on purpose but I think the level of aggression was. Not sure how in that motion or situation your skate should be a foot off the ground. For me its the equivalent of going studs up in soccer which isn't acceptable. Of course this will probably just blow over cause hockey is a real tough mans game or some other bullsh*t.

http://deadspin.com/5984212/

theres a video attached.

Eh, it's a sh*tty injury (Bieksa had the same injury and it took him two years to fully recover and feel comfortable) but it's just Cooke losing balance like always done and accidently doing something stupid. Which is strange because Cooke usually purposefully does stupid things. It should blow over just because it's a relatively common injury. It shows how skilled these guys are that it doesn't happen more often.

That doesn't make it ok. Other sports go out of their way to protect players. Brady losses a season from a fairly innocent play and the NFL correctly knee jerked out a positive response.

But your right it will blow over and thats whats wrong with hockey.

http://www.thescore.com/nhl/articles...

this part is understandable as theres not really anything on the book for it. The tragedy is down the line when they don't entertain the prospect of whacking guys with heavy suspensions for being reckless.

I'm not really familiar with what you're talking about with Brady. I tend to be against strong reactions to fluke plays. Part of the reason there was a dead puck era was the enforcement of not entering the crease because two goalies were injured in weird plays.

The NHL is different than the NFL in that, most, NHL teams spearhead player protection rather than the league. From what I've heard and read teams are constantly trying new equipment and methods to increase player safety. They aren't amazing at it but they are doing it. NHLers play longer than NFLers and teams like to maximize that.

Cooke suspended for that? What? It was an accidental play. Unless you're referring to the NHLs general terribleness at handling discipline, fines, and suspensions. That I'll agree with. Absolutely unfashionable at how bad they are at policing the players.

Brady lost a season when a defensive player took out his knees from continuing to play from the ground.

My point is more that the NHL is being served up a perfect opportunity to ram through some rules like I dunno... "Please keep your very sharp skate blades on the ice or we reserve the right to whack you with a hefty suspension if we deem fit." At worse what does this do? it just plants the seed in certain type of players minds that they are being watched to consider their play.

Even if its an extremely rare occurrence the outcome is pretty devastating to what the NHL is trying to sell. Even if a rule like that only ends up curbing 1 injury in a 2-3 year span its something. Its at least addressing the fact that people don't spend money to see meat heads like Matt Cooke run around.

I agree with the sentiment but I just don't think it would prevent plays like that from happening. Cooke's is the only one, I can remember, that can even be described as questionable. What would the rule even be? The already have changed the rules for kicking the puck in the net (skate is not allowed to leave the ice) and stomping is an automatic fine (Pronger was suspended a when he was on the Ducks for stomping).

I do want tougher suspensions, though. 20 game minimums and huge fines for incidents that aren't taunting related.

Dysplastic wrote:
jowner wrote:

I was at the Sens Montreal game on Super Bowl Sunday. Pretty over rated crowd. Besides the Molson cheap section that has pretty much full time hype girls the rest of the crowd was pretty much.... like every other mediocre crowd. People in Montreal were clearing out in the lower bowl with 3 minutes left in a 2-1 game.

You can't really count afternoon games, IMO. I've been to afternoon games in MTL too and I agree they suck. Again, very family oriented. But don't they suck everywhere? My problem is every game in Ottawa feels like an afternoon game.

I've heard that about Scotiabank Place. I've also heard that sound doesn't travel to well so even when fans do get loud it doesn't translate to well. Rogers Arena has that problem. There's been times where I've been to a game, came home, and was asked why the fans were quiet when, live, they were screaming loud.

So I guess the Blues really are back on track.

Jeez. Sorry Calgary.

The Jets continue their drive for five! That is of course the drive for one of the top 5 picks at the draft in the off season. Blargh!

Jayhawker wrote:

So I guess the Blues really are back on track.

Jeez. Sorry Calgary.

Hah! I watched a Calgary/Chicago game a few weeks ago wherein Ray Emery stoned them for 60 minutes straight and Calgary ended up losing in the shootout. Those guys cannot catch a break.

Lindy Ruff out as Buffalo Sabres coach after 16 years.

I guess a 3-6-1 start to a shortened season was the "enough is enough" moment for Sabres management.

Titans games are fun to attend but they don't compare to the Preds live atmosphere.

Loved watching the Redwings get beat especially because there is always a ton of Michigan transplants that go to the game.